This is the reason why some Republicans despise Matt Gaetz.

[White 6]

What is the evidence against Gaetz?

Do you have a link?

I read, today, what the lawyers for the women he supposed paid, using VENMO (leaving a nice digital trail) to have sex at the parties and what they testified too, as far as seeing him having sex with the 17-year-old. As far as evidence, Johnson has that under wraps, so the Senate does not find out about it.

 

[Foxfyre]

The Republican House Judiciary committee did the investigation, not Democrats. From what I understand, Federal DOJ decided there was not evidence for Federal charges. Then the House took it up on ethics grounds.

What is it, you do not trust about the Republicans that ran that committee, interviewed the witnesses and wrote the report, and why would you blame Democrats for the Republican House investigation. If it was an ethic violation in the eyes of the Republican Senate, for the young 32-year-old Representative to be fking 17-year-old high school students in his own state. I have not heard the girl's parents minded. Florida is an interesting state.

It may be true, he has never run an organization of 115,000 employees or even one with a hundred employees, and certainly not one with a budget of $37.7 Million Dollars. True, it is difficult to find, he actually practiced law, but he was only suspended from practicing once, and that was for being delinquent, but he is eligible to practice if he ever chooses to. His investigation management experience is nil. On the other hand, he is the best President-Elect Trump could come up with, whether Elon approves or not.

The Republican led House ethics committee chose not to release the report because it was no longer in their jurisdiction. To release the report could very easily needlessly violate the privacy of individuals in that report as well as, as Mike Johnson put it, open a very ugly Pandora's box demanding information on former House members into perpetuity.

 

[Failzero]

Because some folks think they can be Socially Liberal and Fiscally Conservative

 

[White 6]

Do you suppose that any politician has ever framed or attempted to frame a political opponent?

Probably. Why? You think that Republican committee has something against Gaetz, that would have them make up crap?

 

[struth]

As many times as it takes.

Takes til what? Your party gets what it wants? That’s the definition of a political witch hunt

 

[struth]

So why the fk are they meeting on Wednesday to discuss the fking matter?

Cause he just got nominated and the dembots hate it

 

[White 6]

WHy do you post shit like this?

You mean it wasn't the sex with a minor, and paying young women for sex in Florida, making some think him unqualified to be Attorney General of the United States?

 

[White 6]

I love how you dead beat idiots believe any smear the media comes out with about any conservative, and even when proven wrong you refuse to acknowledge the truth. You're a special kind of stupid.

I am sure it could not be true of fine young representative from the State of Florida, and when the Republican report is released, it will undoubtably clear him of all considerations, he might have ever acted in an unethical manor by Republican Houses Standards.

 

[justoffal]

I thought it was the pedo thing, but maybe you are correct and Republicans don't mind that sort of thing, and don't want to see the report.

Doesn't really matter to Gaetz. Resigning 2 days before report release, cuts chances of official release, especially with Johnson's help. If report breaks, and he doesn't get confirmed, he was re-elected and will be back next term, and I am sure Trump supporting members of the house will accept him.

If he does get Attorney General, I guess we can look for a steep drop in prosecutions on human trafficking, and maybe a national drop in age of consent, probably to 16, just to avoid future problems of this type for him.

Maybe we will see an increase in stock act violation prosecutions.

 

[Care4all]

The House Ethics Committee months ago issued a statement after the DOJ probe and said they’d take no further action.

LIAR, LIAR, PANTS ON FIRE!!!!!!

 

[justoffal]

I am sure it could not be true of fine young representative from the State of Florida, and when the Republican report is released, it will undoubtably clear him of all considerations, he might have ever acted in an unethical manor by Republican Houses Standards.

Considering that he exposed a member of the ethics committee, a gop senator btw as a law breaking insider trader...they may be motivated to go after him.

 

[buttercup]

Yes, REAL allegations do warrant looking into. But if a corrupt and malicious DOJ like Biden's didn't find anything to charge Matt Gaetz with, and that investigation was done, I'm pretty sure it's a safe bet that he is not guilty of the terrible things meanspirited people are accusing him now. He has not been charged. Certainly he has not been tried and convicted. Only accused.

For sure I won't judge a man based on rumor, political propaganda, innuendo, gossip. Few Republican these days are able to speak out about anything that is problematic for the Democrats without somebody raising the specter of some kind of sexual misconduct. And they often manage to dig up some bimbo who will accuse their political opponent. It is as common as them accusing Republicans of being racist or misogynistic or white supremacist or whatever. In my opinion this is evil and should not be part of our political or social culture.

In truth there's a part of me that doesn't like Matt Gaetz--that has nothing to do with his personal life--but I respect President Trump's choice. If it works out great. If not, he will be replaced. None of us have the moral right to assume someone else is guilty of anything until there is verifiable evidence of that guilt.

And Ginger Gaetz, his wife, is obviously convinced there is no truth to the allegations:

". . .Outside of working on her career, Ginger is all about supporting her husband. When Trump named him as his top pick for the next attorney general for when Trump takes office in January 2025, Ginger shared a heartfelt post on X where she wrote, "Attorney General will look great on you my love" and included an American flag emoji for good measure. . ."

MSN

www.msn.com

Where to begin. The thing is, my entire view of politics and DC is very different than yours and most others here. I no longer buy the D vs R false dichotomy. They're controlled by the same subversive powers, and on the important issues there's little to no difference.

As for the Gaetz "investigation", I heard from someone who's from Florida and is very knowledgable on the whole thing that the reason the investigation didn't get anywhere is because there are a lot of other politicians that are implicated by the activities that occurred as part of this Matt Gaetz story, and it implicates not just Republican politicians but a few Dems as well. So neither party has a big incentive to expose the truth, because it would be damning for both of them. And that investigation goes beyond the underage girls thing. It also involves drugs, alcohol, trafficking and a bunch of other stuff.*

So that goes along with what I have been saying about government "investigations"... they are not trustworthy, even when it's supposedly one "side" going after the other. I'm sorry to be blunt but anyone who thinks any government investigations are trustworthy is very naive. When they're all corrupt and many of them are friends behind the scenes, they don't expose corruption or crimes on one "side" because it would expose their own side as well.

*to be clear, and that's not even the allegations I was alluding to yesterday, there are far more serious allegations against him that are completely apart from the ones we are currently talking about.

 

[struth]

LIAR, LIAR, PANTS ON FIRE!!!!!!

What’s the lie? The mere fact you are uninformed doesn’t make something a lie.

Like your dembot inability to define a woman, doesn’t mean women don’t exist

 

[Foxfyre]

Where to begin. The thing is, my entire view of politics and DC is very different than yours and most others here. I no longer buy the D vs R false dichotomy. They're controlled by the same subversive powers, and on the important issues there's little to no difference.

As for Gaetz "investigation", I heard from someone who's from Florida and is very knowledgable on the whole thing that the reason the investigation didn't get anywhere is because there are a lot of other politicians that are implicated by the activities that occurred as part of this Matt Gaetz story, and it implicates not just Republican politicians but a few Dems as well. So neither party has a big incentive to expose the truth, because it would be damning for both of them. And that investigation goes beyond the underage girls thing. It also involves drugs, alcohol, trafficking and a bunch of other stuff.*

So that goes along with what I have been saying about government "investigations"...they are not trustworthy, even when it's supposedly one "side" going after the other. I'm sorry to be blunt but anyone who thinks any government investigations are trustworthy is very naive. When they're all corrupt and many of them are friends behind the scenes, they don't expose corruption or crimes on one "side" because it would expose their own side as well.

*to be clear, and that's not even the allegations I was alluding to yesterday, there are far more serious allegations that are completely apart from the ones we are currently talking about.

In all due respect, even Biden's investigators, corrupt as they are, know more about it that you or I do. Wanting somebody to be guilty is not evidence or sufficient to charge anybody.

And I will continue to believe that those who repeat malicious gossip, spread rumors and innuendo when there is no evidence to justify it are doing a very bad thing. At least a very wrong thing out of wrong motivation. And they do great harm to people and our society as a whole. That applies to those in the media, in government, around the kitchen table, and on message boards. Thou shalt not bear false witness.

 

[OldFlame]

Considering that he exposed a member of the ethics committee, a gop senator btw as a law breaking insider trader...they may be motivated to go after him.

That idiot probably didn't even watch the video, he has no interest in the truth.

 

[buttercup]

In all due respect, even Biden's investigators, corrupt as they are, know more about it that you or I do. Wanting somebody to be guilty is not evidence or sufficient to charge anybody.

And I will continue to believe that those who repeat malicious gossip, spread rumors and innuendo when there is no evidence to justify it are doing a very bad thing. At least a very wrong thing out of wrong motivation. And they do great harm to people and our society as a whole. That applies to those in the media, in government, around the kitchen table, and on message boards.

Ok, it's as if everything I just said flew right over your head. You are simply not getting it. I'm not going to keep trying. You can only lead a horse to water...

 

[White 6]

Guess the state of Florida took a pass as well. I mean if your 'media' tells you something, it must be true right?

Maybe Senator Gaetz did not want his son charged in Florida, the Sunshine State? And, besides, if she was a minor, we never heard the girl's parents complain, right?

 

[Foxfyre]

Ok, it's as if everything I just said flew right over your head. You are simply not getting it. I'm not going to keep trying. You can only lead a horse to water...

You either have first hand or credible knowledge that Matt Gaetz is guilty of sex crimes or you don't. I get that quite well. Rationalizing gossip, innuendo, speculation, wishful thinking does not make anything any more true. I trust Biden's DOJ when they couldn't find anything on him which they most certainly wanted to do. I trust that Donald Trump is convinced Gaetz's purported 'crimes' are politically motivated.

It may be that he won't be confirmed. In fact that is a strong possibility. But even if he is not, it doesn't make him guilty of sex crimes.

 

[White 6]

There are reports on all of us. The mother of all human weaknesses. We have to know what the other person is doing and what the other person has done. The infection has made the innocent guilty along with the guilty. A malaise is growing in our nation as TV and social media has become a seduction with many having gratitude in seeing others fail. Many have not even had a chance to start. Joe has a report on him. Of course, its buried for now in the bowels of any of a number of D.C. security agencies.

"Mother of all human weaknesses"? Yes, I have heard a hard d!@k has no conscience, so why should anybody raise an eyebrow. If you say the Ethic Committee of the Republican US House of Representative just had to know what they other person was doing, I can accept that.

 

[Carl in Michigan]

I get that quite well. Rationalizing gossip, innuendo, speculation, wishful thinking does not make anything any more true. I trust Biden's DOJ when they couldn't find anything on him which they most certainly wanted to do

Well said!