Zone1 This is Probably Biggest Difference of all Between Catholic and Protestant Bibles

[Picaro]

English translated from Greek and Latin are just fine; English is in fat built on both languages, so that line of argument is nonsense. Same for Hebrew and Aramaic to Greek; Greek was a popular language among Jewish scholars, so another argument along those lines is silly as well.

And, the vast majority of Christian sects agree on far more than they disagree on, the 4 Gospels and Revelation being the core 'canon', the rest chosen for their provenance and origins, with the exceptions of the Book of Hebrews, which is included for its information and clarifications of certain early issues. And as Darrell Bock has proven, the early orthodox versions are indeed the earliest, and only morons believe Constantine ran around rewriting a lot of stuff, and the Gnostic rubbish is also silly nonsense. People who keep babbling otherwise are merely dishonestly hoping to to rewrite it themselves, inserting their own lies and rubbish as legit.

 

[forkintheroad7]

English translated from Greek and Latin are just fine; English is in fat built on both languages, so that line of argument is nonsense. Same for Hebrew and Aramaic to Greek; Greek was a popular language among Jewish scholars, so another argument along those lines is silly as well.

And, the vast majority of Christian sects agree on far more than they disagree on, the 4 Gospels and Revelation being the core 'canon', the rest chosen for their provenance and origins, with the exceptions of the Book of Hebrews, which is included for its information and clarifications of certain early issues. And as Darrell Bock has proven, the early orthodox versions are indeed the earliest, and only morons believe Constantine ran around rewriting a lot of stuff, and the Gnostic rubbish is also silly nonsense. People who keep babbling otherwise are merely dishonestly hoping to to rewrite it themselves, inserting their own lies and rubbish as legit.

I don't know, from reading this, where you are in the whole Catholic-protestant divide, but that last line really hit home. I am reminded of the visionary Melanie Cavat, La Salette, France in the 1800s. Mary visited her (I'm pretty sure the Church approved the vision) and told her that in the last days people will totally abandon the True Faith (True Catholicism, now found only in the Sedevacantist Catholic Churches) and follow after their own thoughts and ideas RE religion.

That aspect of the prophecies has definitely happened. Mary also told her that "Rome [the Vatican, presumably] will lose the faith and be the seat of the Anti-Christ. Catholics (novus ordo ones) don't want to hear that and hate me for saying it.. but that would logically lead to them having to reject Miss Cavat's visitation of Mary, which, again, I'm certain is an approved Marian apparition.

 

[Dragonlady]

Protestant Bibles have St Luke 13:3 speaking of repentance. The Catholic Bible uses the term doing penance. In the most reliable version of the Bible, the Douay Rheims, Jesus says

"Unless you do penance, you will all perish [in Hell]"

The Protestant Bibles just says "Unless you repent..."

So we see how it DOES make a big difference whether you are Catholic or Protestant.

Repenting is just the first step toward getting to Heaven. Doing penance means doing things that make up for the bad you've done.. and accepting sufferings as chastisement for sins.. you hit your thumb on a hammer.. you can offer that up to God in expiation of your serious sins. Someone on the internet is rude to you, ditto.. you can offer it to God in atonement for your sins.. (you will have no end of penances there!).. car breaks down.. ditto.

Then once you exhaust (or think you've exhausted) the list of your own sins, you can tackle the sins of others. The Virgin Mary appeared @ Fatima 1917 and told the children (and all of us) to offer sufferings for souls in mortal sin--on their way to Hell-- so that they will repent and not end up there.

There is no difference between the Catholic Bible and the protestant Bible. Absolutely none there are various versions of the Bible, but none are Catholic and none are protestant.

 

[ninja007]

The Roman Catholic Church adds works to salvation. It denies that we are justified by faith alone in Christ alone. It adds sacraments (CCC 1129), baptism (CCC 1257), penance (CCC 980), and the works of the Law (commandments) as necessary for salvation (CCC 2068, 2036, 2070). The Bible teaches that keeping the commandments is not necessary for salvation (Romans 3:28, 4:5, Gal. 2:16, 21) and is to be avoided (Gal. 5:1-5). Otherwise, what Paul says in Romans 4:5 wouldn’t be true, “But to the one who does not work, but believes in Him who justifies the ungodly, his faith is credited as righteousness.”
The Roman Catholic Church preaches a false gospel.

 

[ding]

The Roman Catholic Church adds works to salvation. It denies that we are justified by faith alone in Christ alone. It adds sacraments (CCC 1129), baptism (CCC 1257), penance (CCC 980), and the works of the Law (commandments) as necessary for salvation (CCC 2068, 2036, 2070). The Bible teaches that keeping the commandments is not necessary for salvation (Romans 3:28, 4:5, Gal. 2:16, 21) and is to be avoided (Gal. 5:1-5). Otherwise, what Paul says in Romans 4:5 wouldn’t be true, “But to the one who does not work, but believes in Him who justifies the ungodly, his faith is credited as righteousness.”
The Roman Catholic Church preaches a false gospel.

2 Timothy 2:23-26, 2 Timothy 2:14, Matthew 12:25, Matthew 18:15-16, Romans 14:1-23, Romans 16:17-18, 1 Corinthians 3:3, 1 Corinthians 13:1-2, 1 John 4:20-21, Proverbs 6:16-19, Proverbs 28:25, Galatians 5:15, Galatians 5:19-21, Titus 3:10, Jude 1:19, Ephesians 4:3-6, Ephesians 4:31-32, Colossians 3:12-14, 1 Corinthians 12:25, 1 Peter 3:8, Philippians 2:1-2, John 17:20-23, Mark 3:24-25, Luke 11:17 and James 3:16.

 

[forkintheroad7]

There is no difference between the Catholic Bible and the protestant Bible. Absolutely none there are various versions of the Bible, but none are Catholic and none are protestant.

You don't care about Truth

You will end up in Hell for it if you do not repent and do penance

 

[Jarlaxle]

Protestants have holes in their beliefs.

They teach us to trust the Bible, but teach us to distrust the Catholic Church, which created the Bible.

They don't believe in purgatory because books they removed from the Bible are the source of that belief.

They can't explain "faith alone saves" when Jesus's parables clearly teach the opposite. And also, the Epistle of James.

Anyone who doesn't distrust the Catholic church has serious problems.

 

[forkintheroad7]

Anyone who doesn't distrust the Catholic church has serious problems.

You don't know what you're talking about. For the 1000th time, the Vatican is NOT Catholic/hasn't been for 65 years or so..

Hey, I know.. How about LEARNING the material before passing yourself off as .. what? having a degree in Catholicism?

Sorry if I sound irritated. I can't stand ignorance

 

[Jarlaxle]

You don't know what you're talking about. For the 1000th time, the Vatican is NOT Catholic/hasn't been for 65 years or so..

Hey, I know.. How about LEARNING the material before passing yourself off as .. what? having a degree in Catholicism?

Sorry if I sound irritated. I can't stand ignorance

That's gibberish.

 

[forkintheroad7]

I heard a Protestant woman talk about "strangers in heaven" -- people who get into heaven but no one knows they're there. C.S. Lewis also used this idea, the dwarves caught in a box that exists only in their imagination.

When faith alone saves, you have to explain how some people get into heaven when they did rotten things their entire life.

I'm 100% behind you. The problem or one of them is that everyone still thinks the Vatican is Catholic when it was actually taken over in 1958 by anti-Catholics, Communists, Satanists, etc.. Some say Pius XII was murdered and he likely was. Otherwise, how could they take over the Vatican?

No true pope would say the anti-Catholic, anti-Christian things francis says.. I do not say all this lightly. I h ave studied the matter rather in depth

 

[forkintheroad7]

That's gibberish.

OK, another candidate for Ignore.

You don't care about the truth.

 

[forkintheroad7]

If you believe the Catholic Church is not really the Catholic Church then you're not a Catholic you're a Protestant.

why don't you read my threads b4 saying such a thing?

For the 1000th time, most Catholics do NOT know what I know about the modern history of the Church. And I go by FACTS, not theories and conjecture. The Vatican is NOT Catholic. It was taken over by anti-Catholic forces.

If you don't understand that basic FACT, you will never understand ME or other sedevacantists. And if you don't understand something, u should not comment on it. . much less tell people what they are or are not

 

[Blackrook]

why don't you read my threads b4 saying such a thing?

For the 1000th time, most Catholics do NOT know what I know about the modern history of the Church. And I go by FACTS, not theories and conjecture. The Vatican is NOT Catholic. It was taken over by anti-Catholic forces.

If you don't understand that basic FACT, you will never understand ME or other sedevacantists. And if you don't understand something, u should not comment on it. . much less tell people what they are or are not

So it's OKAY for you to attack the Catholic Church but NOT okay for me to defend it?

I don't play by your rules, buddy.

 

[forkintheroad7]

So it's OKAY for you to attack the Catholic Church but NOT okay for me to defend it?

I don't play by your rules, buddy.

I don't play by yours. I play by the rules of TRUTH.

If you have no interest in the history of your Church because it might mean facing unpleasant truths--although it is not TRUE Catholics who did anything wrong), then you care more about your comfortable spot in said "church" than you do about Truth and if you don't care about Truth, you do not care about Jesus, who IS the Truth.

 

[Blackrook]

I don't play by yours. I play by the rules of TRUTH.

If you have no interest in the history of your Church because it might mean facing unpleasant truths--although it is not TRUE Catholics who did anything wrong), then you care more about your comfortable spot in said "church" than you do about Truth and if you don't care about Truth, you do not care about Jesus, who IS the Truth.

I know all about you and your claims to represent the TRUE Church.

By whose authority do you make this claim?

 

[forkintheroad7]

I know all about you and your claims to represent the TRUE Church.

By whose authority do you make this claim?

If you don't know by now, you never will. But to answer the seemingly in-apropos question anyway

In all my endeavors, I attempt to put Jesus (Truth) first. And again, I do not accuse REAL Catholics of any wrong-doing.

I have never met one supposed Catholic on this forum who knows the modern history of the Catholic Church. So I guess it's no wonder they accuse me of all kinds of things I am not guilty of... That happens all the time on the net forums.. people accusing people they don't even know.............. You know all about me (???).

How presumptuous. I forgive, but -- I don't know. Maybe I should just hang out with other Sedevacantists. They know what I know

 

[Jarlaxle]

I know all about you and your claims to represent the TRUE Church.

By whose authority do you make this claim?

The voices in his head.

 

[Blackrook]

If you don't know by now, you never will. But to answer the seemingly in-apropos question anyway

In all my endeavors, I attempt to put Jesus (Truth) first. And again, I do not accuse REAL Catholics of any wrong-doing.

I have never met one supposed Catholic on this forum who knows the modern history of the Catholic Church. So I guess it's no wonder they accuse me of all kinds of things I am not guilty of... That happens all the time on the net forums.. people accusing people they don't even know.............. You know all about me (???).

How presumptuous. I forgive, but -- I don't know. Maybe I should just hang out with other Sedevacantists. They know what I know

When you encounter Catholics and tell them their Church isn't TRUE, you can't expect an enthusiastic reception.

And even if I knew what you know, it wouldn't change my mind. The acts of sinful men, even the Pope, can't change that the Catholic Church is the true church.

 

[Meriweather]

Anyone who doesn't distrust the Catholic church has serious problems.

That is the same as saying, "Those who don't trust Father, Son, Holy Spirit have serious problems." Or, Those who don't trust the Bible have serious problems. In other words, what has Jesus ever done to you? And, why do you hate scripture and hold it in contempt?

Bureaucracies, even Church bureaucracies, are often a pain. They are, after all, run by people. However when Catholics gather for worship, the farthest thing from our minds is the Vatican, Archdiocese, Diocese--or even Parish--bureaucracies. Think about it. On US election days, are we thinking bureaucracy or are we thinking democracy. Same with Church. Church is an assembly, and when we assemble, to a one, we are focused on Father, Son, Holy Spirit. That eclipses all else. Perhaps that's the difference between non-Catholics and Catholics. Non-Catholics have their eyes on the Vatican, while Catholics only have eyes for Father/Son/Holy Spirit.

 

[Jarlaxle]

That is the same as saying, "Those who don't trust Father, Son, Holy Spirit have serious problems." Or, Those who don't trust the Bible have serious problems. In other words, what has Jesus ever done to you? And, why do you hate scripture and hold it in contempt?

Bureaucracies, even Church bureaucracies, are often a pain. They are, after all, run by people. However when Catholics gather for worship, the farthest thing from our minds is the Vatican, Archdiocese, Diocese--or even Parish--bureaucracies. Think about it. On US election days, are we thinking bureaucracy or are we thinking democracy. Same with Church. Church is an assembly, and when we assemble, to a one, we are focused on Father, Son, Holy Spirit. That eclipses all else. Perhaps that's the difference between non-Catholics and Catholics. Non-Catholics have their eyes on the Vatican, while Catholics only have eyes for Father/Son/Holy Spirit.

Your straw man died last week.