This is a genius idea; you should listen.

[Ray9]

Most of the people who died during the Covid epidemic died from the effects of tobacco, alcohol, legalized medical marijuana, and illegal street drugs. They did not die from Covid, they died with it. Because these health-destructive industries have power and influence over the US government with ubiquitous lobbyists, nothing was done to address the issue of affordable healthcare in America. These industries are here to stay, and we know that prohibition does not work so out-of-the-box thinking is the only real solution to America’s healthcare woes.

We need to make corporate tobacco, alcohol, and marijuana the biggest health insurance companies in the country. We need to pass legislation providing 100% free healthcare to America’s citizens paid for by these industries. How will they pay for it? They will pay for it by raising prices. That is the bad news as destroying hearts, lungs, and livers will become far more expensive. The good news is that no one in the country will ever pay a cent for complete healthcare coverage.

The first argument that will arise is that the new, prices will discriminate against the poor. This ridiculous position suggests that the poor have a kind of inherent right to destroy their health. The poor are already the demographic that suffers the most from the addictive chemicals imposed by these industries. But the poor will be the group that will benefit the most from free healthcare paid for by these industries.

This could work; we just need to do it.

 

[dblack]

Most of the people who died during the Covid epidemic died from the effects of tobacco, alcohol, legalized medical marijuana, and illegal street drugs.

Says who? You?

 

[Gabe Lackmann]

I completely disagree.

Horrible precedence to set.

You and I do not drink and smoke ourselves to death.

We do not consume 50 capsules of opioid per day.

There is personal, and social responsibility.

Why should we cancel out industries that provide things that can be abused?

Cars? Guns? Glue? Gas?....Air duster...the list is infinite of things that can be misused, and abused.

 

[Sunni Man]

Most of the people who died during the Covid epidemic died from the effects of tobacco, alcohol, legalized medical marijuana, and illegal street drugs. They did not die from Covid,

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[odanny]

Marijuana can be consumed as edibles, and is totally harmless. In fact, it has many positive attributes to ones physical and mental health. Your plan is inherently flawed.

That said, our standards for access to medical care remain an abomination and should be illegal.

 

[flan327]

Marijuana can be consumed as edibles, and is totally harmless. In fact, it has many positive attributes to ones physical and mental health. Your plan is inherently flawed.

That said, our standards for access to medical care remain an abomination and should be illegal.

My husband has terrible back pain

Needs a FIFTH spinal fusion surgery

Gummies help him sleep

 

[Ray9]

This idea can be tweaked in a number of ways. It is essentially capitalist healthcare. We could place the major burden on tobacco and alcohol, but all Ameican idustries could be required to raise the price of their products by a small percentage to pay for America's health. They would save on the other end by not paying any healthcare costs for employees including Workman's Compensation.

Do not forget: The goal is free healthcare for all Americans paid for by capitalism, not socialsim.

 

[odanny]

This idea can be tweaked in a number of ways. It is essentially capitalist healthcare. We could place the major burden on tobacco and alcohol, but all Ameican idustries could be required to raise the price of their products by a small percentage to pay for America's health. They would save on the other end by not paying any healthcare costs for employees including Workman's Compensation.

Do not forget: The goal is free healthcare for all Americans paid for by capitalism, not socialsim.

Ray, you've omitted the worst offender: High rates of diabetes, obesity, heart disease, etc., result from crap, high fructose food manufactured by all the agricultural conglomerates. Why are they absolved of blame? Is this about American's choice of what to consume, when the end goal of agricultural conglomerates is to sell more food, and what better way than to manufacture high fructose crap that leads to the aforementioned medical issues and does not satiate the end user, which is exactly the goal?

Your previous inclusion of marijuana as a root cause seems to illustrate you've not thought this thru very well.

 

[Ray9]

Ray, you've omitted the worst offender: High rates of diabetes, obesity, heart disease, etc., result from crap, high fructose food manufactured by all the agricultural conglomerates. Why are they absolved of blame? Is this about American's choice of what to consume, when the end goal of agricultural conglomerates is to sell more food, and what better way than to manufacture high fructose crap that leads to the aforementioned medical issues and does not satiate the end user, which is exactly the goal?

Your previous inclusion of marijuana as a root cause seems to illustrate you've not thought this thru very well.

But they are industries that can pay a small percentage of the capitalist healthcare tax along with all other American industries. The idea could be introduced as the Capitalist Healthcare Bill. It is foolproof and no one would be left out. Free healthcare is that important.

 

[odanny]

But they are industries that can pay a small percentage of the capitalist healthcare tax along with all other American industries. The idea could be introduced as the Capitalist Healthcare Bill. It is foolproof and no one would be left out. Free healthcare is that important.

Why are you so opposed to single payer, with the government being in charge? The problem with your Capitalist Healthcare Bill is those tasked with funding it will, as all good capitalists do, shift the cost onto the customers, you and me. Costs will never be structured and contained, and before you know it, we will be right back where we started.

 

[Uncensored2008]

Most of the people who died during the Covid epidemic died from the effects of tobacco, alcohol, legalized medical marijuana, and illegal street drugs. They did not die from Covid, they died with it. Because these health-destructive industries have power and influence over the US government with ubiquitous lobbyists, nothing was done to address the issue of affordable healthcare in America. These industries are here to stay, and we know that prohibition does not work so out-of-the-box thinking is the only real solution to America’s healthcare woes.

We need to make corporate tobacco, alcohol, and marijuana the biggest health insurance companies in the country. We need to pass legislation providing 100% free healthcare to America’s citizens paid for by these industries. How will they pay for it? They will pay for it by raising prices. That is the bad news as destroying hearts, lungs, and livers will become far more expensive. The good news is that no one in the country will ever pay a cent for complete healthcare coverage.

The first argument that will arise is that the new, prices will discriminate against the poor. This ridiculous position suggests that the poor have a kind of inherent right to destroy their health. The poor are already the demographic that suffers the most from the addictive chemicals imposed by these industries. But the poor will be the group that will benefit the most from free healthcare paid for by these industries.

This could work; we just need to do it.

 

[Ray9]

Why are you so opposed to single payer, with the government being in charge? The problem with your Capitalist Healthcare Bill is those tasked with funding it will, as all good capitalists do, shift the cost onto the customers, you and me. Costs will never be structured and contained, and before you know it, we will be right back where we started.

Government is terrible at everything. This puts the people in charge of their own healthcare even if they are not conscious of it. They are paying for it every time they purchase any product purchased in the US.

 

[Uncensored2008]

This idea can be tweaked in a number of ways. It is essentially capitalist healthcare. We could place the major burden on tobacco and alcohol, but all Ameican idustries could be required to raise the price of their products by a small percentage to pay for America's health. They would save on the other end by not paying any healthcare costs for employees including Workman's Compensation.

Do not forget: The goal is free healthcare for all Americans paid for by capitalism, not socialsim.

You seem to not grasp what "capitalist" means.

The state controlling the means of production isn't actually "capitalism."

 

[Ray9]

You seem to not grasp what "capitalist" means.

The state controlling the means of production isn't actually "capitalism."

You seem to not understand what socialism means. It is central planning by a tiny group that controls everything enriching itself through corruption. Paying a little more for a product to get free healthcare is not controlled by any single priviliged group. By the way, you will never get free healthcare from governmnet because it is influenced by politics and group interests and corrupted by bribery.

 

[Moonglow]

Most of the people who died during the Covid epidemic died from the effects of tobacco, alcohol, legalized medical marijuana, and illegal street drugs. They did not die from Covid, they died with it. Because these health-destructive industries have power and influence over the US government with ubiquitous lobbyists, nothing was done to address the issue of affordable healthcare in America. These industries are here to stay, and we know that prohibition does not work so out-of-the-box thinking is the only real solution to America’s healthcare woes.

We need to make corporate tobacco, alcohol, and marijuana the biggest health insurance companies in the country. We need to pass legislation providing 100% free healthcare to America’s citizens paid for by these industries. How will they pay for it? They will pay for it by raising prices. That is the bad news as destroying hearts, lungs, and livers will become far more expensive. The good news is that no one in the country will ever pay a cent for complete healthcare coverage.

The first argument that will arise is that the new, prices will discriminate against the poor. This ridiculous position suggests that the poor have a kind of inherent right to destroy their health. The poor are already the demographic that suffers the most from the addictive chemicals imposed by these industries. But the poor will be the group that will benefit the most from free healthcare paid for by these industries.

This could work; we just need to do it.

No link, why am I not surprised...

 

[Moonglow]

You seem to not understand what socialism means. It is central planning by a tiny group that controls everything enriching itself through corruption. Paying a little more for a product to get free healthcare is not controlled by any single priviliged group. By the way, you will never get free healthcare from governmnet because it is influenced by politics and group interests and corrupted by bribery.

I get free healthcare from the govt. at the VA, again you are wrong as per usual....

 

[Moonglow]

I grow my own marijuana so there is no corporation to sue.

 

[Woodznutz]

Medical care is already 'socialized', through Medicare, Medicaid, and the VA.

People need to be better educated about their health. Most are abysmally ignorant of even the basics. That would help the problem somewhat.

 

[Uncensored2008]

You seem to not understand what socialism means. It is central planning by a tiny group that controls everything enriching itself through corruption.

You mean such as planning the economy so that industries not approved of by the state, tobacco, alcohol, et al are pay for "free" health care?

Paying a little more for a product to get free healthcare is not controlled by any single priviliged group. By the way, you will never get free healthcare from governmnet because it is influenced by politics and group interests and corrupted by bribery.

Yet here you are advocating "free" healthcare from the all powerful state using industries you don't like as a cash cow. Obviously these industries don't make anywhere the needed profits to fund such a boondoggle, so your all powerful state will need to focus on other targets as well.

Communism is a bad idea, even if you have good intentions.

 

[Woodznutz]

I get free healthcare from the govt. at the VA, again you are wrong as per usual....

You get very expensive healthcare that is free, to you.