'My health insurance is going up to $800 a month with a $15k deductible and that's the CHEAPEST PLAN"

[dblack]

We just did the experiment of pumping more dollars into the marketplace risk pools for four years. The results were more customers, more competing insurers, and premiums that were largely flat on average for four straight years.

And record high insurance industry profits. You forgot to mention that part. Lots of "parts" you forgot to mention.
But shilling for the insurance companies isn't easy. Which one do you work for? Or is it some kind PAC?

 

[WorldWatcher]

individual mandate was ruled unconstitutional. You can’t force someone to but crap.

Actually the case was National Federation of Independent Business v. Sebelius and the SCOTUS upheld the mandate as an exercise of Congress's power to tax.

The reason we don't pay a mandate now is because a GOP Congress reduced the penality to $0.

WW

 

[krichton]

Why would you throw money on a failed program?

Because it actually works, absent a real single payer system.

 

[teddyearp]

Open Enrollment Marketplace Plan Selections, 2014-2026 | KFF State Health Facts

State level data on Open Enrollment Marketplace Plan Selections, 2014-2026 from KFF, the leading health policy organization in the U.S.

www.kff.org

Number of Insurers Participating in the Individual Health Insurance Marketplaces | KFF State Health Facts

State level data on Number of Insurers Participating in the Individual Health Insurance Marketplaces from KFF, the leading health policy organization in the U.S.

www.kff.org

Marketplace Average Monthly Benchmark Premiums | KFF State Health Facts

State level data on Marketplace Average Monthly Benchmark Premiums from KFF, the leading health policy organization in the U.S.

www.kff.org

Trump tried the “pull money out of the risk pools” strategy in both 2018 and 2026 and both times we got fewer buyers, fewer competing sellers, and big jumps in premiums.

Thanks for the links. I guess. I mean, why not trust Kaiser? Aren't they an insurer who stands to profit enormously from increased rates via the endless "let's just throw more money at it" solution(s)?

 

[dblack]

Thanks for the links. I guess. I mean, why not trust Kaiser? Aren't they an insurer who stands to profit enormously from increased rates via the endless "let's just throw more money at it" solution(s)?

Ding, ding, ding!

 

[teddyearp]

Ding, ding, ding!

I mean, I was just trying to reconcile those figures with my personal experience. I was in the marketplace from about 2018 to 2022 as my employer didn't offer insurance. Until the controlyavirus, my premiums were about $120 per month, maybe less. Afterwords, they jumped to over a thousand.

 

[Greenbeard]

Thanks for the links. I guess. I mean, why not trust Kaiser? Aren't they an insurer who stands to profit enormously from increased rates via the endless "let's just throw more money at it" solution(s)?

No, KFF is not an insurer. Regardless, the data is all publicly available, have at it if you’re doubtful.

Health And Dental Plan Datasets For Researchers And Issuers

FFM QHP landscape files: Health and dental datasets for researchers and issuers

www.healthcare.gov

 

[cnm]

Still waiting on fucktard Republicans to introduce their plan.

Do you still have the "outline" of a plan?

It'll be about two weeks.

 

[cnm]

Trump doesn’t want to “provide money directly to the people.” What he wants to do is stop helping people pay their insurance premiums. Instead of putting tax dollars into insurance pools where they ultimately get paid out for health care services people need, he wants to divert those dollars to financial services companies, like HealthEquity, so they can park that money on Wall Street.

He’s not proposing to take money away from health care to give to the people, he’s proposing to take money away from health care to give to the American Bankers Association. All it took was a generous gift to Trump’s super PAC.

HSA companies struck it big in Trump’s tax bill. They’re lobbying for more

To be fair, the business models of all US health insurance companies is to park the premium money they receive in Wall Street and profit off the investment return, no?

 

[Ringo]

 

[Captain Caveman]

Why is the US backwards with healthcare??

 

[dblack]

Why is the US backwards with healthcare??

Well, socialists really want to control of health care. So they've passed a lot of bad regulation designed to hobble the market. We're caught in the middle.

 

[cnm]

Well, socialists really want to control of health care. So they've passed a lot of bad regulation designed to hobble the market. We're caught in the middle.

Yeah, I hate it. I have to pay for 2 visits to my General Practitioner and to get four prescriptions written each year.

It must come to damn near $200 dollars a year in total costs for consultations and drugs.

Outrageous! Socialism wasn't supposed to be like this.

I bet paying for profit insurance and health care companies would give me a better return on my health dollars.

You know, one year recently I had a basal cell cancer cut out and my General Practitioner charged me $200 because I couldn't be bothered going through the free at point of contact hospital system. I had to wait nearly a week for the procedure after it was diagnosed.

I bet your system gives you a better deal.

 

[dblack]

Yeah, I hate it.

I don't care about your personal circumstances. I'm looking at the overall picture. And "free" isn't a cheap as you think.

I bet your system gives you a better deal.

As I mentioned "my" system (no system, myob) suffers at the hands of "your" system. Because "your" system only works buy forcing people to comply.

 

[Jim H - VA USA]

He’s not proposing to take money away from health care to give to the people, he’s proposing to take money away from health care to give to the American Bankers Association.

You don't seem to have a clue what you are writing about. You confuse health care with health insurance..

 

[Delldude]

Because it actually works, absent a real single payer system.

It came with a guarantee.....just read the fine print.

 

[Eman623]

Comments...
1. Thanks, Obama, for absolutely nothing.
2. Health Insurance costs are out of control.
3. There is no solution, Democrat, Republican, or Trumpian
4. The only solution is the free market. The costs have gotten so out of control, and out of the realm of reality, that the suggestion here is to not buy the policy to begin with. This "insurance" doesn't guarantee health, or longevity. We are all going to die regardless.
5. Pay cash instead
6. Think outside the box. Fly to foreign countries for healthcare if needed.

The system has failed, the politicians have failed. We are responsible for ourselves at this stage.

If she is a single mom with one child, and doesn't qualify for ACA subsidies, then we know her income is at least $84,600.

 

[krichton]

It came with a guarantee.....just read the fine print.

What's Trump's soluition?

 

[Delldude]

What's Trump's soluition?

The Great Healthcare Plan

President Donald J. Trump is calling on Congress to enact the Great Healthcare Plan, a comprehensive plan to lower drug prices, lower insurance premiums, hold big insurance companies accountable, and maximize price transparency.

www.whitehouse.gov

 

[dblack]

What's Trump's soluition?

He doesn't have one. I'm sure he'll cook up with some "free shit" before November,