CDZ Third Way Democrats and their Republican Friends

[DonaldFG]

In one of the worst strategic political mistakes ever made, elite leaders in the Democratic Party came up with something called the Third Way of politics. (The Democrats' 'Third Way' Quarrel Could Change Your Future) The idea was that they believed they had to merge their policies with the capitalist policies of the Republican Party to a level that could be accepted by Wall Street. It was actually considered to be a centrist political position while still retaining some socialist programs. But the result turned out to be an abandonment of the general population's input to the governing process.

The Third Way's methods produced their first President in Bill Clinton, who identified himself as a "New Democrat" and reset the Party's direction to what we are experiencing today. As laws promoting the common good began to disappear, and those giving more autonomy to corporations increased to do as they wished. We have all felt the results of these laws when we ran up against them the past decades. Among other things, we saw the destruction of unions, the loss of manufacturing jobs, the destruction of large amounts of natural resources and of land and sea, and much more as this shift of policy occurred.

They have been so successful at changing the agenda of government that democracy is now being squeezed out of existence. After the election of 2000, the security of the right to vote guaranteed in the Constitution has sunken to new lows. Voting machines were implemented that are unverifiable and hackable. Election results can no longer be reliably rechecked and counted. President Obama's Administration (he is a New Democrat also, as is Hillary Clinton) has made no effort to correct these voting problems, which could arguably be said to be the most critical issue of our time.

The Sanders campaign has exposed a huge scandal from last Tuesdays primary in Arizona where hundreds of voting places were closed since four years ago, and voters had to wait in line for 5 hours to vote, if they were able to at all. (Arizona is a massive FRAUD ! • /r/SandersForPresident)

This is outrageous and unconstitutional! We must not continue to allow this abuse of our democracy.

 

[The Great Goose]

Assholes. They want to take away the last vestiges of moderate leftism and just be a traitor party like the GOP except antiwhite as well!

 

[Elvis Obama]

I don't know what you see as particularly threatening in this kind of thing. Politicians try to build ever wider coalitions. Bill Clinton gleefully co-opted every Republican idea he could. This is politics, an ever downward sucking vortex of exploitation wrapped up in a show biz image. Reagan set a model which no Republican has come close to matching, because they're crabby, ulcerous bottom feeders like Walker and Nixon and Cruz. Clinton set up a new model based on his cult of personality and his reading of post-Reagan American politics. The "Third Way" is just Clintonism minus the personality.

 

[Agit8r]

It's better than the Dominionist party, but yeah, still right-wing

 

[320 Years of History]

In one of the worst strategic political mistakes ever made, elite leaders in the Democratic Party came up with something called the Third Way of politics. (The Democrats' 'Third Way' Quarrel Could Change Your Future) The idea was that they believed they had to merge their policies with the capitalist policies of the Republican Party to a level that could be accepted by Wall Street. It was actually considered to be a centrist political position while still retaining some socialist programs. But the result turned out to be an abandonment of the general population's input to the governing process.

The Third Way's methods produced their first President in Bill Clinton, who identified himself as a "New Democrat" and reset the Party's direction to what we are experiencing today. As laws promoting the common good began to disappear, and those giving more autonomy to corporations increased to do as they wished. We have all felt the results of these laws when we ran up against them the past decades. Among other things, we saw the destruction of unions, the loss of manufacturing jobs, the destruction of large amounts of natural resources and of land and sea, and much more as this shift of policy occurred.

They have been so successful at changing the agenda of government that democracy is now being squeezed out of existence. After the election of 2000, the security of the right to vote guaranteed in the Constitution has sunken to new lows. Voting machines were implemented that are unverifiable and hackable. Election results can no longer be reliably rechecked and counted. President Obama's Administration (he is a New Democrat also, as is Hillary Clinton) has made no effort to correct these voting problems, which could arguably be said to be the most critical issue of our time.

The Sanders campaign has exposed a huge scandal from last Tuesdays primary in Arizona where hundreds of voting places were closed since four years ago, and voters had to wait in line for 5 hours to vote, if they were able to at all. (Arizona is a massive FRAUD ! • /r/SandersForPresident)

This is outrageous and unconstitutional! We must not continue to allow this abuse of our democracy.

Bold link to Arizona voting discussion:
Do you have a more credible discussion to which you might point, perhaps something objective? That's a public forum discussion post just as are the one's here. The poster is griping about an election's having been called based upon exit polls. The fact of the matter is that regardless of what exit polls show, the state election board counts the votes and if the exit polls were wrong, the result would go to the actual winner of the most votes. It's happened before, it'll happen again.

 

[DonaldFG]

Bold link to Arizona voting discussion:
Do you have a more credible discussion to which you might point, perhaps something objective? That's a public forum discussion post just as are the one's here. The poster is griping about an election's having been called based upon exit polls. The fact of the matter is that regardless of what exit polls show, the state election board counts the votes and if the exit polls were wrong, the result would go to the actual winner of the most votes. It's happened before, it'll happen again.

Before the disastrous election of 2000 and all the changes to voting machines, etc., exit polls had come to be so accurate that they permitted news networks to predict results extremely well. Since then we have entered a new era of fraud, and actual "reported" results have changed. It is sad indeed. I don't think the exit poll results have become less valid; it is increased fraud.

Anyway, here are more links. You are correct about my original link. I didn't check my source sufficiently from Google search results.

Arizona's Primary Voting Fiasco Foretells Further Disenfranchisement in General Election

Petition to White House about Arizona 'voter suppression' hit goal in about 40 hours