There's more than bombing going on in Iran.

They only prepare for conditions to facilitate but it is ultimately depended upon Iranians.


1. PMO: Regime change in Iran not war goal.
PMO: Regime change in Iran not war goal
However, if the Iranian people shake off the shackles of oppression, that would be welcome, government spokesman David Mencer tells JNS.
Jun. 24, 2025

2.
IDF aims to reduce Iran threat, not force regime change.
Mar 11, 2026

3.
IDF spox.: Israel targeting Iran systems, not regime change
Mar 15, 2026 — The IDF is not aiming to overthrow the Iranian regime, but is rather aiming to "damage all of the regime's systems and capabilities..."
Israel is absolutely seeking to effect regime change in Iran. News at eleven.
 
You cannot hold ground or finish the war in Iran without boots on the ground to shape the political outcome.

Yep, I agree. You can beat the snot out of someone from the air, but you are not going to fully eradicate the IRGC and effect regime change without face-to-face, door-by-door boots on the ground by someone.
 
Israel is absolutely seeking to effect regime change in Iran. News at eleven.

I think Bibi Netanyahu would make a good president of Iran. Let's give Iran to the Jews. Lots more space and real estate for them, their own oil, plus, what could the Arabs like more than to get Israel out of Arabia! :smoke:
 
Nonsense.
Even if you have to go into enemy territory for a few minutes you have had boots on the ground to accomplish your aims. That exposes your troops.
Example: Delta Force troops.
Delta Force raid to capture Nicolás Maduro took place on January 3, 2026, and was executed in less than five hours.
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The operation to capture and kill Osama bin Laden by SEAL Team 6 lasted 40 minutes from start to finish.
In each case it required boots on the ground.
 
Who Photoshopped Your Memory?

Proven false by Clinton's war against Serbia and its forces in Bosnia and Kosovo. Cold War II, which was initiated by Daddy Bush.
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Really?
Seems Bubba had to send 20,000 troops to quell the killing.
In cat, we still maintain troops in Kosovo.
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Netanyahu gives national address on Iran war.
CBS on YouTube
| 03.19.2026


Under President Trump's visionary leadership, America and Israel are acting together in Iran with great determination and unprecedented strength. Operation Rising Line is designed to remove the existential threats posed by the Ayatollah regime, the regime that has waged war against America and Israel and the people of Iran for 47 years. It chants death to America, death to Israel, and it delivers death to its own people. Our goals are three. One, removing the nuclear threat. Second, removing the ballistic missile threat and removing both of these threats before they're buried deep underground and become immune from aerial attack. And third, this means creating the conditions for the Iranian people to grasp their freedom, to control their destiny. Today, the Ayattollah regime is not only attacking America, not only attacking Israel, not only attacking the Iranian people, it is attacking, it is attacking the entire Middle East and beyond. They've attacked civilians and Americans and American assets in Iraq, Kuwait, Saudi Arabia, Bahrain, Qatar, UAE, Oman, and they've even even attacked through their proxies Cyprus in Europe.

We've warned for decades that their ballistic missile program would be used to attack these targets far and wide. And if they're not stopped, that's just the beginning.

The death cult in Iran is trying to blackmail the world by closing a key international maritime route, the straits of Homuz. It won't work. Israel is helping in its own way and intel and other means the American effort to open the straits of Hormuz.

But I want to ask you to imagine how the Ayatollah regime would be able to blackmail the entire world if they had ballistic missiles with nuclear warheads. Just imagine what they would do. Look at what they're doing now and imagine what they would do if they had ballistic missiles, international range ballistic missiles, and nuclear tipped warheads. Just imagine what a great threat that would be.

So today, Israel and the United States are protecting America, Israel, the entire Middle East. But I venture to say the entire world. Despite the fake news that is unfortunately being spread since the start of the war 20 days ago, we are winning and Iran is being decimated.

Iran's missile and drone arsenal is being massively degraded and will be destroyed. Hundreds of their launchers have been destroyed. Their stockpiles of missiles are being hit hard and so are the industries that produce them. That's important. In Rising Lion, we destroyed missiles and we destroyed a lot of the nuclear infrastructure. But what we're destroying now are the factories that produce the components to make these missiles and to make the nuclear weapons that they're trying to produce. We're wiping out their industrial race in a way that we didn't do before.

Iran's air defenses have been rendered useless. Their navy is lying at the bottom of the sea. Today, we hit the other part of their navy in the Caspian Sea. Their air force is nearly destroyed. Iran's command and control structure is in utter chaos. And I can tell you that there's still more work to do, and we're going to do it.

And I want to close these opening remarks with one other fake news. And that is that Israel somehow dragged the US into a conflict with Iran.[b[ Does anyone really think that someone can tell President Trump what to do? [/b]Come on. President Trump always makes his decisions on what he thinks is good for America. And may I add, I think what is also good for future generations. In this case, those interests are absolutely clear and so is the clarity of our achievements.

Together in close coordination with President Trump, the close coordination between America and Israel, our militaries, our intelligence services, we're achieving goals in lightning speed.

But I want to say another word. It's been said that for 40 years I've been saying that Iran is a danger to Israel and a danger to the world. That is true. You know who else said that? President Trump. 47 years ago when the Iranian thugs took over the American embassy. He said how dangerous this regime is. In his first term in office, he didn't need any convincing. He said the Iranian nuclear deal was the worst deal that he'd ever seen and he walked out of it.

Right before his second term before he was reelected, I went to see him in Mar-a-Lago. The first thing he said to me was, "Bibi, we've got to make sure that Iran doesn't have nuclear weapons." He said that to me. I didn't say it to him. He didn't need any convincing there either. Now, why did he say that?
Because for more than four decades, this regime, as I said in the beginning of my remarks, is chanting 'Death to Israel, Death to America.' But they say Israel is only the small Satan[sic] standing in their way. The great Satan[sic] is the United States of America.

And these ideological fanatics, these lunatics define their own destruction.

Their reason for being is wiping out Western civilization and America that leads it. They have claimed the lives. They've maimed and wounded thousands of Americans in Iraq and Afghanistan. They killed the American Marines in Beirut. They bombed your embassies. They tried to assassinate the American president, Donald Trump, not once, but twice.

Now they blackmail for oil.

Just imagine what they would do, what they're capable of doing if these lunatics had nuclear weapons and the means to deliver them to every American city and every European city and everywhere around the globe. This is a danger for the entire world. It's certainly a danger for Israel. It's certainly a danger for America. We see eye to eye on that. President Trump and I, Israel and America. But I think if people are honest, if leaders are honest, they would understand that we're not only fighting their our fight, we're fighting their fight. I speak to dozens of world leaders. Dozens. They all know that. And privately, they all say that. They say that privately, but I say it publicly.

The world owes a debt of deep indebtedness. deep indebtedness to President Trump for leading this effort to safeguard our future.

Thank you.
 
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You cannot hold ground or finish the war in Iran without boots on the ground to shape the political outcome.

An American attempt to invade and conquer Iran would be a disaster that would make the mistake in Iraq look easy.

Trump has to come before Congress for authorization in 48 days.

And is demanding a $200 billion down payment on his misbegotten war.
 
They only prepare for conditions to facilitate but it is ultimately depended upon Iranians.


1. PMO: Regime change in Iran not war goal.
PMO: Regime change in Iran not war goal
However, if the Iranian people shake off the shackles of oppression, that would be welcome, government spokesman David Mencer tells JNS.
Jun. 24, 2025

2.
IDF aims to reduce Iran threat, not force regime change.
Mar 11, 2026

3.
IDF spox.: Israel targeting Iran systems, not regime change
Mar 15, 2026 — The IDF is not aiming to overthrow the Iranian regime, but is rather aiming to "damage all of the regime's systems and capabilities..."

No, they only con the stupidest fool on earth to start an uprovoked war on their behalf. They use it to invade Lebanon (again), while the Americans hold the bag in the Straits of Hormuz.
 
TimFitz said:
... Lebanon (again), ..
Hezbollah began to attack Israel on March 2. Not the other way around . So what was Hezbollah's plan?
And what "mysterious reason" do they
have to enter Lebanon other than to destroy Iran’s Hezbollah?
 
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Maduro was worth capturing because he has knowledge of drugs and cartels.

The Mullahs are worth executing. They have no redeeming value.
Nothing has changed in Venezuela. There is no sign that Maduro had any “special knowledge of drugs and cartels”.

You (and Trump) made that up.

You didn’t even think about Iran until your beloved fuhrer decided to start a war there.
 
Hezbollah began to attack Israel on March 2. Not the other way around . So what was Hezbollah's plan?
And what "mysterious reason" do they
have to enter Lebanon other than to destroy Iran’s Hezbollah?
Israel and the aunited States started this war on Feb. 28th.

Israeli aggression against Lebanon date back to the 1970’s.

In this case, Israel has responded to one attack by launching a full scale war, displacing a million people, and killing nearly a thousand.
 
That's because we were always seeking a political solution. That's a pretty big handicap on the battlefield.
In a country that was never going to bow down to an American installed puppet government, which is what South Viet Nam was.
 
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Netanyahu gives national address on Iran war.
CBS on YouTube
| 03.19.2026


Under President Trump's visionary leadership, America and Israel are acting together in Iran with great determination and unprecedented strength. Operation Rising Line is designed to remove the existential threats posed by the Ayatollah regime, the regime that has waged war against America and Israel and the people of Iran for 47 years. It chants death to America, death to Israel, and it delivers death to its own people. Our goals are three. One, removing the nuclear threat. Second, removing the ballistic missile threat and removing both of these threats before they're buried deep underground and become immune from aerial attack. And third, this means creating the conditions for the Iranian people to grasp their freedom, to control their destiny. Today, the Ayattollah regime is not only attacking America, not only attacking Israel, not only attacking the Iranian people, it is attacking, it is attacking the entire Middle East and beyond. They've attacked civilians and Americans and American assets in Iraq, Kuwait, Saudi Arabia, Bahrain, Qatar, UAE, Oman, and they've even even attacked through their proxies Cyprus in Europe.

We've warned for decades that their ballistic missile program would be used to attack these targets far and wide. And if they're not stopped, that's just the beginning.

The death cult in Iran is trying to blackmail the world by closing a key international maritime route, the straits of Homuz. It won't work. Israel is helping in its own way and intel and other means the American effort to open the straits of Hormuz.

But I want to ask you to imagine how the Ayatollah regime would be able to blackmail the entire world if they had ballistic missiles with nuclear warheads. Just imagine what they would do. Look at what they're doing now and imagine what they would do if they had ballistic missiles, international range ballistic missiles, and nuclear tipped warheads. Just imagine what a great threat that would be.

So today, Israel and the United States are protecting America, Israel, the entire Middle East. But I venture to say the entire world. Despite the fake news that is unfortunately being spread since the start of the war 20 days ago, we are winning and Iran is being decimated.

Iran's missile and drone arsenal is being massively degraded and will be destroyed. Hundreds of their launchers have been destroyed. Their stockpiles of missiles are being hit hard and so are the industries that produce them. That's important. In Rising Lion, we destroyed missiles and we destroyed a lot of the nuclear infrastructure. But what we're destroying now are the factories that produce the components to make these missiles and to make the nuclear weapons that they're trying to produce. We're wiping out their industrial race in a way that we didn't do before.

Iran's air defenses have been rendered useless. Their navy is lying at the bottom of the sea. Today, we hit the other part of their navy in the Caspian Sea. Their air force is nearly destroyed. Iran's command and control structure is in utter chaos. And I can tell you that there's still more work to do, and we're going to do it.

And I want to close these opening remarks with one other fake news. And that is that Israel somehow dragged the US into a conflict with Iran.[b[ Does anyone really think that someone can tell President Trump what to do? [/b]Come on. President Trump always makes his decisions on what he thinks is good for America. And may I add, I think what is also good for future generations. In this case, those interests are absolutely clear and so is the clarity of our achievements.

Together in close coordination with President Trump, the close coordination between America and Israel, our militaries, our intelligence services, we're achieving goals in lightning speed.

But I want to say another word. It's been said that for 40 years I've been saying that Iran is a danger to Israel and a danger to the world. That is true. You know who else said that? President Trump. 47 years ago when the Iranian thugs took over the American embassy. He said how dangerous this regime is. In his first term in office, he didn't need any convincing. He said the Iranian nuclear deal was the worst deal that he'd ever seen and he walked out of it.

Right before his second term before he was reelected, I went to see him in Mar-a-Lago. The first thing he said to me was, "Bibi, we've got to make sure that Iran doesn't have nuclear weapons." He said that to me. I didn't say it to him. He didn't need any convincing there either. Now, why did he say that? Because for more than four decades, this regime, as I said in the beginning of my remarks, is chanting 'Death to Israel, Death to America.' But they say Israel is only the small Satan[sic] standing in their way. The great Satan[sic] is the United States of America.

And these ideological fanatics, these lunatics define their own destruction.

Their reason for being is wiping out Western civilization and America that leads it. They have claimed the lives. They've maimed and wounded thousands of Americans in Iraq and Afghanistan. They killed the American Marines in Beirut. They bombed your embassies. They tried to assassinate the American president, Donald Trump, not once, but twice.

Now they blackmail for oil.

Just imagine what they would do, what they're capable of doing if these lunatics had nuclear weapons and the means to deliver them to every American city and every European city and everywhere around the globe. This is a danger for the entire world. It's certainly a danger for Israel. It's certainly a danger for America. We see eye to eye on that. President Trump and I, Israel and America. But I think if people are honest, if leaders are honest, they would understand that we're not only fighting their our fight, we're fighting their fight. I speak to dozens of world leaders. Dozens. They all know that. And privately, they all say that. They say that privately, but I say it publicly.

The world owes a debt of deep indebtedness. deep indebtedness to President Trump for leading this effort to safeguard our future.

Thank you.
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