How Trump was convinced into the Iran debacle

[Zincwarrior]

"Conservative" doesn't mean dick any more, except to you libs. And everyone knows how much you hated them until you loved them.

MAGA or GTFO.

We agree. There is nothing about the Trump Admin nor MAGAs that are conservative.

 

[JGalt]

They'd be no lifting at all if they didn't have the US military running cover for them.

We work in conjunction with each other. During the rescue of those two downed American pilots and the weapons officer, they conducted tactical strikes as a diversion to distract Iranian forces, and assisted in neutralizing local air activity.

 

[Zincwarrior]

You buy their "It's Da Jooos" story?

You seem to be working through some issues.

 

[JGalt]

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And 2028.

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Insha'Allah

 

[OhPleaseJustQuit]

Insha'Allah

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Deus Vult.

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[Rawley]

No. I don't know how you took that from it other than your own bigotry.

Uh, because I read it.

 

[Rawley]

You seem to be working through some issues.

Nah. Just tired of your cult making the absurd claim that Trump is taking orders from "Da Jooos"

 

[Zincwarrior]

Nah. Just tired of your cult making the absurd claim that Trump is taking orders from "Da Jooos"

I never said anything about Jews. I said Netanyahoo and Saudi Arabia.

 

[Oddball]

We work in conjunction with each other. During the rescue of those two downed American pilots and the weapons officer, they conducted tactical strikes as a diversion to distract Iranian forces, and assisted in neutralizing local air activity.

Doesn't change the fact...Netan-yahoo doesn't have the stones to fight his own battles.

 

[JGalt]

Doesn't change the fact...Netan-yahoo doesn't have the stones to fight his own battles.

Iran's export of terrorist proxies should be everyone's problem, especially since they threatened to assassinate our President.

 

[Rawley]

I never said anything about Jews.

I never said you did.

 

[Zincwarrior]

I never said you did.

You literally accused me of it.

 

[Hafar1014]

This article should be required reading.

https://www.nytimes.com/2026/04/07/us/politics/trump-iran-war.html

I’ll give a synopsis.

Netanyahu shows up at the White House with the head of the Mossad. They give a presentation to Trump and his advisors, which include Hegseth, Radcliffe and Rubio.

“In the Situation Room on Feb. 11, Mr. Netanyahu made a hard sell, suggesting that Iran was ripe for regime change and expressing the belief that a joint U.S.-Israeli mission could finally bring an end to the Islamic Republic.

At one point, the Israelis played for Mr. Trump a brief video that included a montage of potential new leaders who could take over the country if the hard-line government fell. Among those featured was Reza Pahlavi, the exiled son of Iran’s last shah, now a Washington-based dissident who had tried to position himself as a secular leader who could shepherd Iran toward a post-theocratic government.

Mr. Netanyahu and his team outlined conditions they portrayed as pointing to near-certain victory: Iran’s ballistic missile program could be destroyed in a few weeks. The regime would be so weakened that it could not choke off the Strait of Hormuz, and the likelihood that Iran would land blows against U.S. interests in neighboring countries was assessed as minimal.

Besides, Mossad’s intelligence indicated that street protests inside Iran would begin again and — with the impetus of the Israeli spy agency helping to foment riots and rebellion — an intense bombing campaign could foster the conditions for the Iranian opposition to overthrow the regime. The Israelis also raised the prospect of Iranian Kurdish fighters crossing the border from Iraq to open a ground front in the northwest, further stretching the regime’s forces and accelerating its collapse.“

After the meeting Radcliffe called Netanyahu’s plan “farcical” and Rubio called it “bullshit.”

The two who bought into it hook, line and sinker were the two biggest idiots in the Trump Administration.

You guessed it: Hegseth and Trump himself.

Vance was against the War:

“In front of his colleagues, Mr. Vance warned Mr. Trump that a war against Iran could cause regional chaos and untold numbers of casualties. It could also break apart Mr. Trump’s political coalition and would be seen as a betrayal by many voters who had bought into the promise of no new wars.

Mr. Vance raised other concerns, too. As vice president, he was aware of the scope of America’s munitions problem. A war against a regime with enormous will for survival could leave the United States in a far worse position to fight conflicts for some years.”

One other interesting point made in the article is that Trump was always a war hawk, even in his first term. It was his generals and advisors that kept him in check. This time though there was some initial opposition to this War all his advisors fell into place like good little sycophants, Radcliffe and Rubio, among them. Vance though kept his opposition to the war known to Trump.

I suspect that Vance and Radcliffe may have leaked this information because they want to distance themselves from the Iran clusterf***.

Its much simpler religious fanatics cant be allowed to have nuclear weapons. See how easy that was.

 

[Rawley]

You literally accused me of it.

Nope. I said your cult. And we were referencing the tale told by your cult's paper of record. I specifically asked you if "You buy their "It's Da Jooos" story?"

You don't want to be associated with this cult, stop associating with this cult.

 

[Oddball]

Iran's export of terrorist proxies should be everyone's problem, especially since they threatened to assassinate our President.

I'm sure that has absolutely NOTHING to do with Israel being Murica's little bastard stepchild.

 

[JGalt]

I'm sure that has absolutely NOTHING to do with Israel being Murica's little bastard stepchild.

We didn't create the state of Israel, it was the UN and the UK. The Soviet Union was the first to recognize them, followed by the US.

 

[sealybobo]

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Still standing.






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Not our reputation.

Based on reports from early April 2026, Megyn Kelly heavily criticized Donald Trump's negotiation tactics regarding Iran, calling them "irresponsible and disgusting" and questioning his ability to act as a "dignified, strong leader"

 

[sealybobo]

"Conservative" doesn't mean dick any more, except to you libs. And everyone knows how much you hated them until you loved them.

MAGA or GTFO.

I realize Conservatives under Bush were just as shitty as they are now. Only Bush didn't COMPLETELY fill his cabinet with con men and women.

 

[OhPleaseJustQuit]

Not our reputation.

Based on reports from early April 2026, Megyn Kelly heavily criticized Donald Trump's negotiation tactics regarding Iran, calling them "irresponsible and disgusting" and questioning his ability to act as a "dignified, strong leader"

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No, your reputation is definitely not still standing.

I'm glad you realize this, finally.





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[sealybobo]

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No, your reputation is definitely not still standing.

I'm glad you realize this, finally.





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Think about this. JD Vance is flying to Pakistan to get us out of a mess that did not exist 6 weeks ago. Donald Trump created the mess. And what did America achieve? Nothing. In fact, now Iran has asserted full control of Hormuz. Now every other country has to pay them to pass through. That's going to keep oil prices high. Trump really f'ed up.

I would be scared if I were JD. How many Arabs has Trump taken out at airports? An Iranian General? Didn't we bomb a general while he was waiting in a long Iraqi TSA line in the Baghdad airport? Didn't we take out their SUPREME LEADER? I'll say this. JD got some balls. No personality. God help us. But balls.