- Apr 23, 2017
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- New Mexico
Wrong.Yes, flu vaccines work. No we did not have polio herd immunity before the Salk and Sabin vaccinesNo one has an effective flu vaccine.If everyone had a flu vaccine, spreading would automatically be irrelevant. That's why vaccines are so important. Are you okay? You know, common sense okay?Wrong.Most people get a flu shot to keep it from spiking. People who don't are unprotected. Many viruses never go away. HIV is still here.That is very ignorant because if you wear masks and social distance to "flatten the curve" with flu as well, you can prevent the spike and force to stick around FOREVER.It's not 300,000. Get a fucking clue; This Is How Many People Die From the Flu Each YearYou have proven you can't do simple math.Out of all the lying, ignorant posts I have read on here, yours is at the top of the list.Actually presidents have ZERO authority or jurisdiction over health care matter.The lockdown was a result of Trump's denial and lies over covid. Had he gone a different way, people would have been more prepared. They weren't and they died.Our economy declined because blue state governors put 4he country on lockdown, putting 370,000 small businesses OUT of business, putting MILLIONS on the unemployment lines. UNTIL Trump was illegally removed from office. Now all of a sudden, blue state governors and mayors want business back up and runningOur economy declined because of Trumps failures to address covid
And ACTUALLY, although I dislike Trump, he was right about covid-19.
Fauci first claimed it had a lethality of 10%, then 1.8%, and later we found out it was 0.15% only. which put is about the same as seasonal flu.
So then why did 300,000 die?
It as because Fauci goofed and tried to "flatten the curve".
That has never ever ended any epidemic, and fact it prevents the early spike, which is what normally end all epidemics.
So Fauci forced the epidemic to keep going, not stop, and last forever.
Which is why to many died.
If instead we had let it spike in March, then herd immunity would have ended the epidemic in March, saving 260,000 lives.
Trump had intel going all the way back to January 2020 and called it the new Democrat hoax, comparing it to the Russia hoax. That's fact number one. Fact number two, he had an interview with Bob Woodward telling Bob that the Coronavirus was five times worse than the flu. And he never told us until the audio came out.
Now, here's where your post really gets into some stupid territory. OMG! I can't believe I read that.
So then why did 300,000 die?
It as because Fauci goofed and tried to "flatten the curve". You fucking idiot. Do you realize how stupid that is? In your previous sentence you said it was "about the same as the seasonal flu." "It's because Fauci goofed and tried to flatten the curve, that has never ended a pandemic. "Which is why too many died". You idiot, you just admitted it wasn't like the flu, and on top of that, Trump said it was five times worse than the flu. Get your shit right. WHY DO WE HAVE SO MANY FUCKING STUPID PEOPLE?
Seasonal flu kills about 30,000 people a month.
If you prevent it from ending, and make it last 10 months, that is 10 times 30,000.
That is 300,000.
Overall, the CDC estimates that 12,000 and 61,000 deaths annually since 2010 can be blamed on the flu. The higher number reflects the particularly harsh 2017-2018 flu season. Most years, the US death toll from the flu is closer to 34,000 to 43,000. Globally, the World Health Organization (WHO) estimates that the flu kills 290,000 to 650,000 people per year.
The reason we do not normally have annual flu for more than a month is that herd immunity kills it off after it spikes. If you prevent the spike by flattening the curve, then it will NOT go away. It will stay FOREVER!
Flu can live in humans.
It is endemic to humans.
We can never get rid of it.
No vaccine is very effective.
Most people do not get a flu vaccine, and the ones who do can still spread it.
But covid-19 is zoonotic, and can only live permanently in bats.
It can not live in humans.
It is not endemic to humans.
But if we keep "flattening the curve", and keep covid-19 around long enough, then we will breed a variant strain that can live in humans.
It is a matter of time.
So we can not afford to keep "flattening the curve".
We have to end it and get rid of it QUICKLY.
It changes too quickly.
Vaccines are great, but always too late to end an epidemic in progress.
Look at the 1948 Polio epidemic.
We did not get access to the Salk vaccine until 1957, way too late and it was already over by herd immunity by then.
Vaccines prevent future epidemics, not end existing ones.
If most people did not already have inherent immunity to Polio, then it would have spread through out the whole human population quickly.
In fact, the Polio epidemic was essentially OVER before the Salk vaccine became available in 1957.
I was there.
I remember VERY WELL what happened.
But not all vaccines work.
For example, flu changes too quickly, so flu vaccines essentially do NOT work.
They only make the symptoms less so that you feel good enough to go out and spread it more.
And we do not know if the covid-19 vaccine works.
Since it is not the virus but immune reaction to that is fatal, the vaccine might well trigger the same fatal response?
It was also manufactured with gene splicing instead of being cultured, so has other greater risks.
It also had almost no testing.