there was no insurrection on jan 6th !

[whutTHEYsay]

Because you imply you hold the higher moral ground while still defending a policy that killed more people than the situation normally would have.

I did not defend the policy. I posted some facts about it. You have not challenged the facts. All you could do is diss the fact gatherer because you reject what the facts reveal.

What source are you relying on?

You state that Cuomo’s policy killed more people than the situation normally would have. How many more and how did you determine the number of deaths caused by Cuomo’s policy vs the number of deaths that were caused by staff and visitors and inadequate disinfection.

It was done to free up hospital beds for those that needed them more.

I’m not sure what your policy would have been in NYC had Cuomo and the other two governors in the Tri-State area not shut the businesses and shows down.

The hospitals and the nursing homes would have had bodies pilling up in the parking lots. People dying in their homes with no way to treat them. But what the hell eh? They would be mostly poor and close to dying anyway.

I believe you oppose Cuomo’s shut down policy that saved thousands of lives early on in the pandemic. Something like this:

Cuomo should not have shut down one if the most important economic states in the country. Damn him, leave it up to the libertarians to decide for themselves because they are the smartest people on earth.

Those close to death 26906429

Most of the deaths have involved people that were close to death already. The longer term problems have to do with people out of work and in poverty. I care more about those people than those close to death already. The fate of the healthy has longer term economic implications.

“Does the owner of the restaurant own his restaurant? Or does the government own his restaurant?” Rand Paul.

 

[whutTHEYsay]

I never suggested throwing caution to the wind. I just didn't want government to get as involved.

Did the government shut down of the NYC area as early as it did save lives or cost lives?

 

[whutTHEYsay]

Also, if "infection control" is a known problem in nursing homes that predates COVID, that sounds like it should be the last place you would want to put infected patients.

Should Cuomo have sent them to your house instead? The point is that the reason they were sent to nursing homes was to free up hospital beds for the 1000 new COVID19 cases per day

Between March 25 and May 8, approximately 6,326 COVID-positive patients were admitted to nursing homes, according to a state health department report.​

Is Cuomo Directive to Blame for Nursing Home COVID Deaths, as US Official Claims?​

In the early days of the COVID-19 pandemic, when New York was the epicenter and more than a thousand people were being hospitalized daily, there was a genuine fear that hospitals would not be able to accommodate the influx of desperately ill patients.​

Moving people out of the hospitals and into nursing homes was one strategy to help hospitals meet these needs.​

You declare Nursing homes “sounds like it should be the last place you would want to put infected patients” with no regard to the crisis situation that dictated the choice was between nursing home beds where some level of medical assistance and quarantine protocols were in place vs sending them home where 6000 discharged infected patients would be in close contact with untrained fsmily members who would be forced to care for them if they had any family at all. That would lead to more community spread and the need for more hospital beds and ICU.s

But what the hell, Cuomo was wrong to shut down businesses in the first place;

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But this is exactly why the closure of so many small businesses is a problem that is much longer lasting than the deaths in hospitals and such. Most of the deaths have involved people that were close to death already. The longer term problems have to do with people out of work and in poverty. I care more about those people than those close to death already. The fate of the healthy has longer term economic implications.

 

[whutTHEYsay]

If they always accompany BLM and Antifa, then it's by more than coincidence.

Its not a coincidence its criminal activity. The criminals mostly come out to take advantage of the angry crowds that gather as they did following yesterdays’s police shooting near where George Floyd was murdered.

looting,arson and other violence must be tied to the criminals that do it. Never to the protesters that are committed to non-violence.

If freedom to peaceably assemble can be stopped by the state in order to prevent violence then the criminals and the government have won.

 

[playtime]

Banning magazine sizes doesn't accomplish much when they are easy to make. Of all the components of a gun, the magazine is one of the simplest. 3D printers can make them rather easily.

it doesn't? really? making them illegal may not stop everyone, but it won't hurt & jack up the fines & time served if caught.

Did you also know that most mass shootings haven't involved the use of high capacity magazines?

we went over this b4. i know 20 babies & their 6 teachers were involved in that there type of mass killings here i CT & there was in vegas, & columbine, & virginia tech ... & the mall in texas...

My point is simply that all this talk of bans isn't going to stop mass shootings. The AWB had no appreciable effect on mass shootings, for example.

but why make it easy?

sounds cowardly.

What would make mass shootings easier is to disarm the public.

The question is..
Why do we allow mass shooters access to the weapons of their choice?

I‘d like an AR15, four 50 round magazines, an armored vest and 250 rounds of ammo

Clerk.....Would you like a speed loader and armor piercing rounds?

If someone hasn't committed a violent crime or isn't under observation by authorities, then they will pass a background check. The vast majority of people who buy guns don't commit mass shootings. Just because a very small percentage of people do commit mass shootings does not justify eroding the public's right to bear arms. Now, if the 2nd Amendment didn't exist, this would be a different discussion.

there should be a background check on each & every individual who wants to buy a gun. why do you have a problem with that? anybody that intends to commit a crime using a firearm or multiple firearms doesn't have a record - - - until they do. you have a problem with that because the NRA tells you there's a problem.

 

[rightwinger]

there should be a background check on each & every individual who wants to buy a gun. why do you have a problem with that?

Because he wants to be able to sell his guns to criminals if he wants

 

[playtime]

Those close to death 26906429

But this is exactly why the closure of so many small businesses is a problem that is much longer lasting than the deaths in hospitals and such. Most of the deaths have involved people that were close to death already. The longer term problems have to do with people out of work and in poverty. I care more about those people than those close to death already. The fate of the healthy has longer term economic implications.

Is Rand Paul at the top of your list as your ideal politician?

Do you accept the following political economic divide to be accurate? Let’s call it the Brookings Metro Economic Political Rift (BMER)

“Most notably, the stark economic rift that Brookings Metro documented after Donald Trump’s shocking 2016 victory has grown even wider. In 2016, we wrote that the 2,584 counties that Trump won generated just 36% of the country’s economic output, whereas the 472 counties Hillary Clinton carried equated to almost two-thirds of the nation’s aggregate economy. “​

​

Biden-voting counties equal 70% of America’s economy. What does this mean for the nation’s political-economic divide?​

Do you agree that Red States generate just 36% of the country’s economic output but generates and often does generate over 50% of America’s votes in national elections?

Rand is one of the better Senators, yes.

As for the red/blue divide, if that sort of thing bothers you, then you should favor more decentralization of funding and policy. If blue states and blue areas are truly more productive, then it would make sense that further decentralization of government would allow them to better spend their funds on local needs.

That's what I've always found odd about the centralization push by so many on the left. If you truly believe that the red states and red areas are the welfare queens of the country, then push for more state-based government and less federal government, because it will ultimately benefit your areas.

rand paul, the putin puppet - who wished america a ' happy independence day ' from moscow .... not to mention that the 'doctor' who knowingly had covid, but said nothing - wore no mask - & mixed & mingled with his fellow congress critters - some who are older than dirt - is a quite the douche.

 

[playtime]

Considering the election was stolen, people should have been protesting in DC.

Yup. How dare the people vote against our dear leader?

People with brains voted for Trump.

LOL!!!!! you voted for a dude that ran a fraudulent 'university' .... had his
' charitable foundation ' shut down because of fraud ... & duped his cash strapped humpers into weekly donations to his 'campaign'/legal defense fund.

 

[Likkmee]

there was no insurrection on jan 6th ! why do i say this ? its simple ....what happened on jan 6th although serious and illegal was a few hundred people trespassing and causing minor damage to the capital ! if it were a serious insurrection it sure didnt last very long may be 2 or 3 hrs ...... but even though we have only had one very brief instance of vilonce from the right the liars on the left harp constantly about how violent and dangerous the right is ..... but lets get real.... a real insurrection and rebellion against government lasts a lot longer that a few hrs ! it goes on for yrs in a protracted assault on the rule of law ...and thats just what weve seen from the treasonous left for the past few yrs ! the true insurrection and attack on the rule of law and the constitution is coming from the scum on the left ! the only people that have taken US territory and attempted to institute their own marxist gov are leftist [remember CHOP in Seattle ] and the most vicious attacks against law enforcement and gov buildings and private property has come from dems ! dems are traitors ! and i know many on the faggot left will dispute this .... but remember there has been nore will there be any more acts of mob violence since the brief meltdown on jan 6th from the right ... and we all know this cant be said for the violent left ! they will loot burn assault destroy and kill again this summer again in their quest for marxist rule and power .

I had me a serious inserection 1/2 hr ago. Had it fixed.
Breakfast will be on in 20 min.

 

[rightwinger]

You state that Cuomo’s policy killed more people than the situation normally would have. How many more and how did you determine the number of deaths caused by Cuomo’s policy vs the number of deaths that were caused by staff and visitors and inadequate disinfection.

It was done to free up hospital beds for those that needed them more.

In March 2020, nobody understood COVID or how it spread.

NOBODY was warning against housing elderly patients in nursing homes. Cuomo went with the best available information.

I ask any of the Monday morning Quarterbacks to show where they wrote threads or posts questioning housing elderly patients in nursing homes a year ago.

 

[playtime]

where did I say ALL BLM protests turn violent?

I never said that you said “all”.

I was responding to this:

Somehow the planned BLM protests evolve into spontaneous looting, burning, and destruction

yes.... all the riots last year had BLM planned protest and ANTIFA took part as well.

antifa was NEVER found to be any part of them thar protests. & that was straight from donny's DOJ.

 

[whutTHEYsay]

If they always accompany BLM and Antifa, then it's by more than coincidence.

Will you cease asking that loaded question after reading this:

​

FBI 'has no intelligence' indicating antifa was linked to weekend violence in the George Floyd protests, despite Trump and Republicans' claims Sonam Sheth Jun 2, 2020, 10:19 PMJ​

​

Demonstrators start a fire as they protest the death of George Floyd, Sunday, May 31, 2020, near the White House in Washington. Alex Brandon/AP Photo​

FBI 'has no intelligence' indicating antifa was linked to weekend violence in the George Floyd protests, despite Trump and Republicans' claims​

The FBI has "no intelligence" indicating that "antifa" was involved in violence over the weekend related to protests following the death of George Floyd, a 46-year-old black man who died after a white police officer knelt on his neck for nearly nine minutes, The Nation reported.​

​

President Donald Trump, Attorney General William Barr, and several Republican lawmakers have blamed antifa for violence linked to protests that took place on Sunday.​

​

But according to The Nation, which cited an internal FBI situation report, the bureau's Washington, DC, field office "has no intelligence indicating Antifa involvement/presence" in the violence that took place that day.​

​

However, the FBI and other government agencies warn that far-right white supremacist groups will use the protests to incite violence and attack federal agents.​

​

The FBI has collected no intelligence indicating that "antifa" was involved in violence over the weekend related to protests over the death of George Floyd, a 46-year-old black man who died on May 25 after a white police officer in Minneapolis knelt on his neck for nearly nine minutes, The Nation reported.​

​

President Donald Trump and Attorney General William Barr both blamed antifa — a loosely organized left-wing group consisting of anti-fascism activists — for violence linked to a series of protests that took place on Sunday.​

​

Trump announced on Twitter that day that "the United States of America will be designating ANTIFA as a Terrorist Organization."​

​

Barr released a statement afterward echoing the president's sentiments, saying, "The violence instigated and carried out by antifa and other similar groups in connection with the rioting is domestic terrorism and will be treated accordingly."​

​

But according to The Nation, which cited an internal FBI situation report, the bureau's Washington, DC, field office "has no intelligence indicating Antifa involvement/presence" in the violence that took place on Sunday.​

​

The FBI report listed a series of violent acts including instances of bricks being thrown at police officers and a backpack that contained explosives. But based on "CHS [Confidential Human Source] canvassing, open source/social media partner engagement, and liaison," the bureau had no evidence that those acts were directly linked to antifa, The Nation said.​

​

But the FBI's report did warn that people associated with a far-right social-media group had "called for far-right provocateurs to attack federal agents" and "use automatic weapons against protesters."​

​

Politico also reported on Monday that a Department of Homeland Security intelligence note warned law-enforcement officials that a white supremacist channel on the encrypted messaging app Telegram encouraged its followers to incite violence to start a race war during the protests.​

​

Citing the FBI, it said that two days after Floyd's death, the channel "incited followers to engage in violence and start the 'boogaloo' — a term used by some violent extremists to refer to the start of a second Civil War — by shooting in a crowd."​

​

One of the messages in the channel called for potential shooters to "frame the crowd around you" for the violence, the note said, according to Politico.​

​

On May 29, the note said, "suspected anarchist extremists and militia extremists allegedly planned to storm and burn the Minnesota State Capitol."​

​

NBC News also reported on Monday that Twitter had identified a group posing as an "antifa" organization calling for violence in the protests as actually being linked to the white supremacist group Identity Evropa.​

Loaded Questions can be very dishonest too.

yes.... all the riots last year had BLM planned protest and ANTIFA took part as well.

You are just a flat out liar. The May 28 George Floyd riots were the worst single days of violence when a police station was burned to the ground.
ANTIFA was not there. BLM was not there . Why do you lie about this?

antifa was NEVER found to be any part of them thar protests. & that was straight from donny's DOJ.

Thank you for spreading truth and facts.

 

[LeftofLeft]

where did I say ALL BLM protests turn violent?

I never said that you said “all”.

I was responding to this:

Somehow the planned BLM protests evolve into spontaneous looting, burning, and destruction

yes.... all the riots last year had BLM planned protest and ANTIFA took part as well.

antifa was NEVER found to be any part of them thar protests. & that was straight from donny's DOJ.

OK. Who were the people in black hoods beating up drivers in their own cars or even torching cars and smashing windows at Trump’s inauguration in 2017?

 

[LeftofLeft]

If they always accompany BLM and Antifa, then it's by more than coincidence.

Will you cease asking that loaded question after reading this:

​

FBI 'has no intelligence' indicating antifa was linked to weekend violence in the George Floyd protests, despite Trump and Republicans' claims Sonam Sheth Jun 2, 2020, 10:19 PMJ​

​

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Demonstrators start a fire as they protest the death of George Floyd, Sunday, May 31, 2020, near the White House in Washington. Alex Brandon/AP Photo​

FBI 'has no intelligence' indicating antifa was linked to weekend violence in the George Floyd protests, despite Trump and Republicans' claims​

The FBI has "no intelligence" indicating that "antifa" was involved in violence over the weekend related to protests following the death of George Floyd, a 46-year-old black man who died after a white police officer knelt on his neck for nearly nine minutes, The Nation reported.​

​

President Donald Trump, Attorney General William Barr, and several Republican lawmakers have blamed antifa for violence linked to protests that took place on Sunday.​

​

But according to The Nation, which cited an internal FBI situation report, the bureau's Washington, DC, field office "has no intelligence indicating Antifa involvement/presence" in the violence that took place that day.​

​

However, the FBI and other government agencies warn that far-right white supremacist groups will use the protests to incite violence and attack federal agents.​

​

The FBI has collected no intelligence indicating that "antifa" was involved in violence over the weekend related to protests over the death of George Floyd, a 46-year-old black man who died on May 25 after a white police officer in Minneapolis knelt on his neck for nearly nine minutes, The Nation reported.​

​

President Donald Trump and Attorney General William Barr both blamed antifa — a loosely organized left-wing group consisting of anti-fascism activists — for violence linked to a series of protests that took place on Sunday.​

​

Trump announced on Twitter that day that "the United States of America will be designating ANTIFA as a Terrorist Organization."​

​

Barr released a statement afterward echoing the president's sentiments, saying, "The violence instigated and carried out by antifa and other similar groups in connection with the rioting is domestic terrorism and will be treated accordingly."​

​

But according to The Nation, which cited an internal FBI situation report, the bureau's Washington, DC, field office "has no intelligence indicating Antifa involvement/presence" in the violence that took place on Sunday.​

​

The FBI report listed a series of violent acts including instances of bricks being thrown at police officers and a backpack that contained explosives. But based on "CHS [Confidential Human Source] canvassing, open source/social media partner engagement, and liaison," the bureau had no evidence that those acts were directly linked to antifa, The Nation said.​

​

But the FBI's report did warn that people associated with a far-right social-media group had "called for far-right provocateurs to attack federal agents" and "use automatic weapons against protesters."​

​

Politico also reported on Monday that a Department of Homeland Security intelligence note warned law-enforcement officials that a white supremacist channel on the encrypted messaging app Telegram encouraged its followers to incite violence to start a race war during the protests.​

​

Citing the FBI, it said that two days after Floyd's death, the channel "incited followers to engage in violence and start the 'boogaloo' — a term used by some violent extremists to refer to the start of a second Civil War — by shooting in a crowd."​

​

One of the messages in the channel called for potential shooters to "frame the crowd around you" for the violence, the note said, according to Politico.​

​

On May 29, the note said, "suspected anarchist extremists and militia extremists allegedly planned to storm and burn the Minnesota State Capitol."​

​

NBC News also reported on Monday that Twitter had identified a group posing as an "antifa" organization calling for violence in the protests as actually being linked to the white supremacist group Identity Evropa.​

Loaded Questions can be very dishonest too.

yes.... all the riots last year had BLM planned protest and ANTIFA took part as well.

You are just a flat out liar. The May 28 George Floyd riots were the worst single days of violence when a police station was burned to the ground.
ANTIFA was not there. BLM was not there . Why do you lie about this?

antifa was NEVER found to be any part of them thar protests. & that was straight from donny's DOJ.

Thank you for spreading truth and facts.

Are you debating ANTIFA and BLM in events that turned violent or are you focused on the George Floyd protests turned violent?

 

[whutTHEYsay]

Are you debating ANTIFA and BLM in events that turned violent or are you focused on the George Floyd protests turned violent?

I’m stating the fact that BLM and ANTIFA had nothing to do with the George riot that started the night of Floyd’s murder. BLM and ANTIFA are not responsible for that violence in any way.

 

[whutTHEYsay]

OK. Who were the people in black hoods beating up drivers in their own cars or even torching cars and smashing windows at Trump’s inauguration in 2017?

I don’t know. If you want to find out who it was if they caught anybody search the FBI files or news reports if there were any indictments.

What’s that have to do with your lying about BLM at the George Floyd protest?

 

[playtime]

If they always accompany BLM and Antifa, then it's by more than coincidence.

Will you cease asking that loaded question after reading this:

​

FBI 'has no intelligence' indicating antifa was linked to weekend violence in the George Floyd protests, despite Trump and Republicans' claims Sonam Sheth Jun 2, 2020, 10:19 PMJ​

​

View attachment 479115​

Demonstrators start a fire as they protest the death of George Floyd, Sunday, May 31, 2020, near the White House in Washington. Alex Brandon/AP Photo​

FBI 'has no intelligence' indicating antifa was linked to weekend violence in the George Floyd protests, despite Trump and Republicans' claims​

The FBI has "no intelligence" indicating that "antifa" was involved in violence over the weekend related to protests following the death of George Floyd, a 46-year-old black man who died after a white police officer knelt on his neck for nearly nine minutes, The Nation reported.​

​

President Donald Trump, Attorney General William Barr, and several Republican lawmakers have blamed antifa for violence linked to protests that took place on Sunday.​

​

But according to The Nation, which cited an internal FBI situation report, the bureau's Washington, DC, field office "has no intelligence indicating Antifa involvement/presence" in the violence that took place that day.​

​

However, the FBI and other government agencies warn that far-right white supremacist groups will use the protests to incite violence and attack federal agents.​

​

The FBI has collected no intelligence indicating that "antifa" was involved in violence over the weekend related to protests over the death of George Floyd, a 46-year-old black man who died on May 25 after a white police officer in Minneapolis knelt on his neck for nearly nine minutes, The Nation reported.​

​

President Donald Trump and Attorney General William Barr both blamed antifa — a loosely organized left-wing group consisting of anti-fascism activists — for violence linked to a series of protests that took place on Sunday.​

​

Trump announced on Twitter that day that "the United States of America will be designating ANTIFA as a Terrorist Organization."​

​

Barr released a statement afterward echoing the president's sentiments, saying, "The violence instigated and carried out by antifa and other similar groups in connection with the rioting is domestic terrorism and will be treated accordingly."​

​

But according to The Nation, which cited an internal FBI situation report, the bureau's Washington, DC, field office "has no intelligence indicating Antifa involvement/presence" in the violence that took place on Sunday.​

​

The FBI report listed a series of violent acts including instances of bricks being thrown at police officers and a backpack that contained explosives. But based on "CHS [Confidential Human Source] canvassing, open source/social media partner engagement, and liaison," the bureau had no evidence that those acts were directly linked to antifa, The Nation said.​

​

But the FBI's report did warn that people associated with a far-right social-media group had "called for far-right provocateurs to attack federal agents" and "use automatic weapons against protesters."​

​

Politico also reported on Monday that a Department of Homeland Security intelligence note warned law-enforcement officials that a white supremacist channel on the encrypted messaging app Telegram encouraged its followers to incite violence to start a race war during the protests.​

​

Citing the FBI, it said that two days after Floyd's death, the channel "incited followers to engage in violence and start the 'boogaloo' — a term used by some violent extremists to refer to the start of a second Civil War — by shooting in a crowd."​

​

One of the messages in the channel called for potential shooters to "frame the crowd around you" for the violence, the note said, according to Politico.​

​

On May 29, the note said, "suspected anarchist extremists and militia extremists allegedly planned to storm and burn the Minnesota State Capitol."​

​

NBC News also reported on Monday that Twitter had identified a group posing as an "antifa" organization calling for violence in the protests as actually being linked to the white supremacist group Identity Evropa.​

Loaded Questions can be very dishonest too.

yes.... all the riots last year had BLM planned protest and ANTIFA took part as well.

You are just a flat out liar. The May 28 George Floyd riots were the worst single days of violence when a police station was burned to the ground.
ANTIFA was not there. BLM was not there . Why do you lie about this?

antifa was NEVER found to be any part of them thar protests. & that was straight from donny's DOJ.

Thank you for spreading truth and facts.

thanx - i never do otherwise - & always back up what i say.

 

[playtime]

where did I say ALL BLM protests turn violent?

I never said that you said “all”.

I was responding to this:

Somehow the planned BLM protests evolve into spontaneous looting, burning, and destruction

yes.... all the riots last year had BLM planned protest and ANTIFA took part as well.

antifa was NEVER found to be any part of them thar protests. & that was straight from donny's DOJ.

OK. Who were the people in black hoods beating up drivers in their own cars or even torching cars and smashing windows at Trump’s inauguration in 2017?

dude - can't you follow your own reply?

 

[playtime]

If they always accompany BLM and Antifa, then it's by more than coincidence.

Will you cease asking that loaded question after reading this:

​

FBI 'has no intelligence' indicating antifa was linked to weekend violence in the George Floyd protests, despite Trump and Republicans' claims Sonam Sheth Jun 2, 2020, 10:19 PMJ​

​

View attachment 479115​

Demonstrators start a fire as they protest the death of George Floyd, Sunday, May 31, 2020, near the White House in Washington. Alex Brandon/AP Photo​

FBI 'has no intelligence' indicating antifa was linked to weekend violence in the George Floyd protests, despite Trump and Republicans' claims​

The FBI has "no intelligence" indicating that "antifa" was involved in violence over the weekend related to protests following the death of George Floyd, a 46-year-old black man who died after a white police officer knelt on his neck for nearly nine minutes, The Nation reported.​

​

President Donald Trump, Attorney General William Barr, and several Republican lawmakers have blamed antifa for violence linked to protests that took place on Sunday.​

​

But according to The Nation, which cited an internal FBI situation report, the bureau's Washington, DC, field office "has no intelligence indicating Antifa involvement/presence" in the violence that took place that day.​

​

However, the FBI and other government agencies warn that far-right white supremacist groups will use the protests to incite violence and attack federal agents.​

​

The FBI has collected no intelligence indicating that "antifa" was involved in violence over the weekend related to protests over the death of George Floyd, a 46-year-old black man who died on May 25 after a white police officer in Minneapolis knelt on his neck for nearly nine minutes, The Nation reported.​

​

President Donald Trump and Attorney General William Barr both blamed antifa — a loosely organized left-wing group consisting of anti-fascism activists — for violence linked to a series of protests that took place on Sunday.​

​

Trump announced on Twitter that day that "the United States of America will be designating ANTIFA as a Terrorist Organization."​

​

Barr released a statement afterward echoing the president's sentiments, saying, "The violence instigated and carried out by antifa and other similar groups in connection with the rioting is domestic terrorism and will be treated accordingly."​

​

But according to The Nation, which cited an internal FBI situation report, the bureau's Washington, DC, field office "has no intelligence indicating Antifa involvement/presence" in the violence that took place on Sunday.​

​

The FBI report listed a series of violent acts including instances of bricks being thrown at police officers and a backpack that contained explosives. But based on "CHS [Confidential Human Source] canvassing, open source/social media partner engagement, and liaison," the bureau had no evidence that those acts were directly linked to antifa, The Nation said.​

​

But the FBI's report did warn that people associated with a far-right social-media group had "called for far-right provocateurs to attack federal agents" and "use automatic weapons against protesters."​

​

Politico also reported on Monday that a Department of Homeland Security intelligence note warned law-enforcement officials that a white supremacist channel on the encrypted messaging app Telegram encouraged its followers to incite violence to start a race war during the protests.​

​

Citing the FBI, it said that two days after Floyd's death, the channel "incited followers to engage in violence and start the 'boogaloo' — a term used by some violent extremists to refer to the start of a second Civil War — by shooting in a crowd."​

​

One of the messages in the channel called for potential shooters to "frame the crowd around you" for the violence, the note said, according to Politico.​

​

On May 29, the note said, "suspected anarchist extremists and militia extremists allegedly planned to storm and burn the Minnesota State Capitol."​

​

NBC News also reported on Monday that Twitter had identified a group posing as an "antifa" organization calling for violence in the protests as actually being linked to the white supremacist group Identity Evropa.​

Loaded Questions can be very dishonest too.

yes.... all the riots last year had BLM planned protest and ANTIFA took part as well.

You are just a flat out liar. The May 28 George Floyd riots were the worst single days of violence when a police station was burned to the ground.
ANTIFA was not there. BLM was not there . Why do you lie about this?

antifa was NEVER found to be any part of them thar protests. & that was straight from donny's DOJ.

Thank you for spreading truth and facts.

Are you debating ANTIFA and BLM in events that turned violent or are you focused on the George Floyd protests turned violent?

antifa has nothing, ZERO to do with BLM or their protests. & by the way - a lot of those that looted etc were outsiders that came in & took advantage of the situation.... but an-ti-fa was not any part of it.

full stop.

 

[Tumblin Tumbleweed]

there was no insurrection on jan 6th ! why do i say this ? its simple ....what happened on jan 6th although serious and illegal was a few hundred people trespassing and causing minor damage to the capital ! if it were a serious insurrection it sure didnt last very long may be 2 or 3 hrs ...... but even though we have only had one very brief instance of vilonce from the right the liars on the left harp constantly about how violent and dangerous the right is ..... but lets get real.... a real insurrection and rebellion against government lasts a lot longer that a few hrs ! it goes on for yrs in a protracted assault on the rule of law ...and thats just what weve seen from the treasonous left for the past few yrs ! the true insurrection and attack on the rule of law and the constitution is coming from the scum on the left ! the only people that have taken US territory and attempted to institute their own marxist gov are leftist [remember CHOP in Seattle ] and the most vicious attacks against law enforcement and gov buildings and private property has come from dems ! dems are traitors ! and i know many on the faggot left will dispute this .... but remember there has been nore will there be any more acts of mob violence since the brief meltdown on jan 6th from the right ... and we all know this cant be said for the violent left ! they will loot burn assault destroy and kill again this summer again in their quest for marxist rule and power .

Had it been a REAL insurrection, a serious effort to overthrow democracy, the 200 involved would have been armed to the teeth, had maps, and gunned down any officer who stood in their way, seized the capitol and senate before anyone could have gotten away, ordered them to throw out Biden's electors and reelect Trump, and held the people there hostage for a billion dollars!

And they would be dead after reinforcements established a perimeter and turned them all into swiss cheese.