So you blame all of societies marital woes upon gays, who can't even legally marry in most places? That's interesting.
I've never had /anyone/ tell me that they couldn't imagine having sex with an 80 year old, so idk what to say about your gay friend there. However, only like one, maybe two, of the LGBT's I know are looking for sex, the heterosexuals are far more inclined to that "fulfillment." Most of the LGBT's I know are looking for their "soul mates" and flowery romanticized shit like that (which, yea, I don't believe in.)
While I can agree with the "expectation" thing being a major cause for marriage failures (or any relationship failure) I again point out that this is not exclusive to LGBT relationships, heterosexuals have the same difficulties with unrealistic expectations of how their relationship is going to be, and yes, even how "marriage" is going to be - in fact many people on both sides (typically women) seem to have this stupid idea that if they get married things will change for the better; and I strongly advise both my straight and LGBT friends when I believe that they may be falling into that trap.
As far as aging, testosterone is a fickle thing as once ages. The desire for sex oft does wear off, but again you ignore that there is /more/ to the LGBT relationship than sex alone. Your one friend may in deed suffer from a "lack of fulfillment" or "satisfaction" but that isn't the case for every gay out there, not is it in any way exclusive to LGBT relationships. As far a Jenner, maybe he is looking for some more spot-light time, I really do not know, but he does not define all LGBT relationships, or even all Transgenders; Jenner is, like your gay friend, merely one individuals story.
Everything you've described as a "flaw" is both accepted and considered "normal" in heterosexual relationships, why then point it out as a "problem" for LGBTs? It's not a problem for LGBT's, it's a problem for all couples.
I don't blame gays ---- but I certainly don't want to add them to the ever increasing pile of societal woes. I feel society is better promoting the ideal and not settling for whatever and encouraging it for future generations as "normal." Marriage is an ideal. Homosexuality is just another rung down the ladder
You appear to have missed the latest reality in this country. Ladder's are not accepted anymore, we're all
supposed to be treading water at the bottom now. In any event, allowing SSM isn't going to add any more shit to the pool than extremist religious bible-thumpers have already deposited in trying to keep them out.
If you really wanted to address societal woes in the US, then you'd consider that division is one of the most serious problems this country faces, hell we might be in the midst of the most serious threat this country has faced since the civil war. Yet, right now, instead of attempting to mend those rifts between fellow American's, jack-wads from every possible corner of the ring are in a contest to see how much they can shit on everyone else in some bravado chest thumping display to prove that "they are right" or someone else is "wrong." Watching the news lately is akin to watching a bunch of 5 year olds fight over a single speck of sand on the beach. It's just embarrassing...
My mother has a saying, "pick your battles." All I am saying is that Christians really need to think about if denying SSM is really important enough to risk their power base in the US over. Keeping in mind that /even/ if they some how magically manage to crush the SSM movement for eternity, that is /not/ going to prevent LGBT's from having relationships, from living together, from having "icky sex," from talking about LGBT, nor even from attempting to adopt children. All this ultimately does is make the US look bigoted in a world where nearly every first world power on the planet (including heavily Christian ones) has accepted LGBT's right to form legally binding relationships. Is a piece of paper /really/ the issue ya'll want to lose support over? Do you really think the rest of the country doesn't see the hypocrisy of allowing divorce, adultery, and now even child molestation, while denying SSM as immoral? I'm just saying, ya'll might want to think about this a little more carefully.
For the record, I gave all my kidos the option of deciding their religion on their own, encouraged them to go to church with their Grandparents, and two of them have found God. It bothers me that it might have been a mistake to involve them in what appears to be a corrupt and bigoted institution. Now I have started to wonder if all these churches do is talk about how icky LGBT's are like the bigots do on boards like this, in the media, etc. My boys are busy with that "new life" thing; they've both got wonderful girlfriends, great jobs, and they're settling down. They're at that point where grandchildren are coming soon, I don't want my grandkids trying to sort out why their religious leaders hate their Grandmother, because I'm one of those "B's" they rage about, because their adopted-aunt is one of those "SSM L's" that they rage about. Bible thumpers solution is for me to simply not tell them I'm bi, to lie to them about who their adopted-aunt in law is... Why should I? Why should I protect what becomes more and more a bigoted institution? Not to mention all this other shit Christians have popping out of the woodwork.
It's ya'll religion, do as you wish, but just know that modern non-bigots all over this country, aren't buying into the cover story so much anymore. As my youngest informed me after going to church the last time (like 3 years ago), "Wow, they are full of crap mom." I had stopped him from debating the issue with his brothers, told him it's their personal choice that we should respect... I've lost that opinion over this stupid war on SSM, I'm done defending the "good" of the church with those close to me. I doubt I'm the only one going "holy shit..." What ya'll are doing right now with SSM is just wrong in a free country.