The whole story about the death of Pretti

[Robert W]

Many wise people already know.....

This ALL about distraction. While Democrats stole Trillions from American taxpayers. Corrupt ppl across the spectrum have an interest in keeping America from focusing on the real crimes going on here.

If you're even modestly intelligent, you already know this.

Minnesota was already under heavy fire for corruption. Naturally the golden goose for them was when Pretti took action against the officers on the scene and ended up dead. This covers the asses of both Frey and Walz, they hope at least.

 

[Nostra]

No, it was not illegal, and the word 'illegal' was not used by Kristi Noem to describe it, for a reason Welfare Queen.

Improper is something not done the right way, or by the standard usually considered best, or unsuitable or ...not properly done.

But illegal, is behavior that is a formal, written offense, punishable under code of law by our govt.

Funny how you want to conveniently brush aside a statute when it destroys your narrative.

Without ID, he was illegally carrying a concealed weapon when he decided to obstruct justice and confront an agent.

 

[Mac-7]

I never saw them try to take her in to custody, did you? If so, can you link the video to it. I never heard they were even trying to take her in to custody??? So where did that come from?

One of the libs here - maybe you - accused the feds of slamming her to the ground while apprehending her

Which is why the doofus nurse decided to whup ass on the feds

 

[toobfreak]

Listening to the first ten minutes (if you cannot deliver the salient points within 10 minutes, you should just STFU), the facts are simple:

1. Pretti refused to stay out of officer's way on the sidewalk while they were making an arrest.
2. The mob there were making a maximum effort to disrupt and confuse officers increasing the dangers to everyone there.
3. Pretti made a persistent effort to disrupt LE operations WHILE CARRYING A LOADED PISTOL.
4. Pretti persisted in escalating matters in the street (probably according to his backer's training) until he ended on the street in a scuffle now with police.
5. Police see he is ARMED, making himself a dangerous antagonist.
6. Somewhere in the scuffle with the gun shots are fired defensively and officers are trained to kill any threat.
7. The criminal Ecuadoran whom ICE was actually there to arrest is safe and sound. Pretti died to save him.

Officers are cleared of all responsibility.

At least a dozen of those closest to the scuffle interfering, blowing whistles, should all be charged both as accessories to Pretti's death but also to obstructing justice.

And now a new fact emerges:

Apparently Pretti had already had a run in with ICE officers the week earlier resulting in a cracked or broken rib! That is all on Pretti, not ICE, who are trying to arrest illegal criminal aliens and are not there to pick fights with ER nurses.

A pattern develops, then the guy shows up here with a gun.

A caught PBS lying again: in their news, they stressed that Pretti had a CCW and was licensed to carry in that state! Can you imagine if J6ers had been carrying guns (not one of them was) and the Left argued in their defense they had every right to carry weapons to the J6 rally?

Simple fact is that license or not, you don't pick a fight with police armed. When a cop pulls you over, first thing they ask is whether you have a gun. You are supposed to turn it over to police until they are finished with you. Why? It only takes a split-second to pull a gun out from a holster and shoot a cop--- that is an unreasonable risk to the officer.

1. Pretti obstructed justice (broke the law) by interfering in a police operation.
2. Pretti broke the law when he failed to obey directions by the officers.
3. Pretti broke the law when he began struggling and fighting with the police.
4. Pretti greatly increased his chances of a bad ending by taking his gun with him into these situations.

Pretti was stupid, he gambled, he lost. Once officers realized he was violent, combative and armed, he became a deadly threat and a danger to police whose only first instinct is to react in self-defense. Does not matter what HE thought or intended, the man risked his life for some jackhole criminal alien from Ecuador.

I wonder if the family of the Ecuadoran will be sending the Pretti family any money or flowers for the funeral?

 

[Robert W]

One of the libs here - maybe you - accused the feds of slamming her to the ground while apprehending her

Which is why the doofus nurse decided to whup ass on the feds

Don't forget the Maryland man. It is amusing how Democrats word law breakers.

 

[Robert W]

And now a new fact emerges:

Apparently Pretti had already had a run in with ICE officers the week earlier resulting in a cracked or broken rib! That is all on Pretti, not ICE, who are trying to arrest illegal criminal aliens and are not there to pick fights with ER nurses.

A pattern develops, then the guy shows up here with a gun.

A caught PBS lying again: in their news, they stressed that Pretti had a CCW and was licensed to carry in that state! Can you imagine if J6ers had been carrying guns (not one of them was) and the Left argued in their defense they had every right to carry weapons to the J6 rally?

Simple fact is that license or not, you don't pick a fight with police armed. When a cop pulls you over, first thing they ask is whether you have a gun. You are supposed to turn it over to police until they are finished with you. Why? It only takes a split-second to pull a gun out from a holster and shoot a cop--- that is an unreasonable risk to the officer.

1. Pretti obstructed justice (broke the law) by interfering in a police operation.
2. Pretti broke the law when he failed to obey directions by the officers.
3. Pretti broke the law when he began struggling and fighting with the police.
4. Pretti greatly increased his chances of a bad ending by taking his gun with him into these situations.

Pretti was stupid, he gambled, he lost. Once officers realized he was violent, combative and armed, he became a deadly threat and a danger to police whose only first instinct is to react in self-defense. Does not matter what HE thought or intended, the man risked his life for some jackhole criminal alien from Ecuador.

I wonder if the family of the Ecuadoran will be sending the Pretti family any money or flowers for the funeral?

Silly Democrat s wrote those laws and of course did it to force gun carrying citizens to obey their own laws. Now they whine like wolves in the night.

 

[Winco]

As angry as you are? You never offered to drive to Redmond.

Yes or NO.

The shooting of Pettri is justified?

 

[OODA_Loop]

Yes or NO.

The shooting of Pettri is justified?

Yes

 

[Winco]

And now a new fact emerges:

ICE threw Petrri to the ground, took his Gun, then after taking his gun,1 second later, ICE shot him.

FU and Robert W for defending this shooting.
FU.

 

[OODA_Loop]

ICE threw Petrri to the ground, took his Gun, then after taking his gun,1 second later, ICE shot him.

FU and Robert W for defending this shooting.
FU.

What choices did they have in the 1 second?

What were the consequences for the wrong choice?

 

[Winco]

What choices did they have in the 1 second?

What were the consequences for the wrong choice?

Pretty obvious fuckstain.
Don't shoot an unarmed man in the back.

 

[OODA_Loop]

Pretty obvious fuckstain.
Don't shoot an unarmed man in the back.

Unless you’re a cop and the man is fighting you while hiding a gun on his person.

 

[Dr Grump]

This woman is a very experienced attorney. She is nonbiased. She creates truthful content. She picks apart the entire case to get the truth told. I enjoy her site a lot since she details her findings in easy-to-understand format. She is not out to go against the innocent and will honestly inform us all. See her case unfold. Tell us what you think after seeing her comments.

That witness statement is exactly how I saw it. Trying to help the woman up and then he gets attacked from behind. There is no gun out or anything like that.

 

[Winco]

Unless you’re a cop and the man is fighting you while hiding a gun on his person.

Did you see the video of the Agent taking his gun, then another Agent shooting HIM AFTER he was stripped of his gun?


Did you see that? Or are you seeing something different?

 

[toobfreak]

Silly Democrat s wrote those laws and of course did it to force gun carrying citizens to obey their own laws. Now they whine like wolves in the night.

I can't wait for the next time democrats argue that some republican or MAGA guy brings his legal gun to some democrat event and gets tackled, beaten up, shot or arrested. I want to hear the democrats screaming how the guy had every right to bring his gun because he was generally licensed to carry.

NEXT UP: They will be bringing guns to President Trump rallies arguing they have every right to endanger a president.

Fact of the matter is that a CCW licenses you to carry a gun for personal self-defense, not to take into a crowd of police with you that you're going out of your way to pick a fight with while criminally obstructing justice. That is criminal and as soon as you commit a crime carrying a gun, your 2A right goes flying right out the window.

Someone please call those pustules at PBS and tell them that.

 

[OODA_Loop]

Did you see the video of the Agent taking his gun, then another Agent shooting HIM AFTER he was stripped of his gun?


Did you see that? Or are you seeing something different?

What is the elapsed time between the first visibility of the hidden gun and the first shots from the two firing officers?

And their positions relative to the scrum and revealing of the gun?

A gun, the SiG320 which is proven to unintentionally discharge?

 

[OldFlame]

I would have shot her, as that was the last defensive position before the chamber. I would not have shot her in the throat, as I am trained to shoot center mass and never miss at 6 feet. Most places in upper torso are probably as vascular, not immediately lethal, but enough to stop most people. Like the Officer, I would have shot her, as first through the doorlite they had just busted out, and there was a crowd ready to follow. She was shot once. The object is to shoot until they are no long a threat.
I definitely would not have shot her 3 times in the back and certainly not fired on her an additional 7 times. 10 rounds is an intentional assassination when the suspect does not have a weapon and is on the ground.

Of course you would have shot her, you believe she deserved to die for being a Trump supporter.

Babbit Shooting: How dare anyone rise up against the US government and protest it
Pretti Shooting: How dare the US government fight back against protestors impeding them

Babbit Shooting: Federal LE totally justified to shoot and kill an unarmed woman that was no threat
Pretti Shooting: Federal LE are goons and out of control for shooting an armed man who was physically fighting with them

Total and complete 180 views ONLY based on what political side the shooter is defending. You have absolutely no moral ground to stand on, your 'opinions' are worthless bullshit because you are unable to have an even remotely unbiased view because of your hatred for Trump and anyone that supports him. All you do is make a complete fool of yourself even trying to talk out of both sides of your mouth on the topic. And what's funny is that you're so damn oblivious and stupid that you don't even see it.

 

[Concerned American]

Of course you would have shot her, you believe she deserved to die for being a Trump supporter.

Babbit Shooting: How dare anyone rise up against the US government and protest it
Pretti Shooting: How dare the US government fight back against protestors impeding them

Babbit Shooting: Federal LE totally justified to shoot and kill an unarmed woman that was no threat
Pretti Shooting: Federal LE are goons and out of control for shooting an armed man who was physically fighting with them

Total and complete 180 views ONLY based on what political side the shooter is defending. You have absolutely no moral ground to stand on, your 'opinions' are worthless bullshit because you are unable to have an even remotely unbiased view because of your hatred for Trump and anyone that supports him. All you do is make a complete fool of yourself even trying to talk out of both sides of your mouth on the topic. And what's funny is that you're so

I pity any GI that was unfortunate enough to be under six's command. His presence on this board has proven without a doubt that he has questionable judgement and he abuses it under color of authority.

 

[IM2]

He brought a gun to a gun fight that wasn’t happening so he decided to start one, and lost.

If you left wing retards keep starting fights you’re going to keep losing them. Stop starting shit.

Stop lying.

 

[IM2]

Pretti not only refused to stay out of the way, he injected himself into the situation and was seen putting his hands on a Federal agent which is a felony with a fine and up to 8 years in jail.

Someone should take those rape whistles and shove them down their throats and haul them off to jail. IMO

Pretti was strapping, did not tell the officers and resisted attempts to arrest him, it's all on him.

Someone mentioned that Pretti was reaching for his cell phone as a way to excuse him from guilt however, once the officers took his gun, he reached in his pocket. How were the officers to know it wasn't another gun? Perps often carry more than one.

I don't care if Pretti was an ICU nurse or the illegitimate son of Mother Theresa. He acted like a lawless goon and paid for it.

No he didn't.

The lying must stop.