The whole story about the death of Pretti

[OODA_Loop]

Actually you DO have that right

No you don't. A coach's whistle can damage hearing, cause disorientation and reduce situational awareness.

 

[Lesh]

Hindering includes be forced to use officers on scene to divert from the operation at hand to handle unruly protesters.


Like pushing them out of the street and pushing them away from blowing whistles at officers in close proximity to the officers.

I really doubt a court would agree that ICE doing traffic duty two blocks from an operation is within their pervue

 

[OODA_Loop]

You don’t get to tell people how they should or shouldn’t protest

Sure you do there are laws governing protests.

 

[Mick2]

Hindering implies that their actions would in some way make the operation not happen

Hindering just means they are TRYING to make the operation not work. Doesn't mean that it necessarily won't work.

You're a special little guy. Not too bright, though.

 

[OODA_Loop]

I really doubt a court would agree that ICE doing traffic duty two blocks from an operation is within their pervue

You doubt things in here all the time that are wrong.

 

[Lesh]

No you don't. A coach's whistle can damage hearing, cause disorientation and reduce situational awareness.

If a whistle can damage hearing can you imagine the damage ten shots from a handgun would do?

Stop saying lame shit

It only makes you look stupid and desperate

 

[Dogmaphobe]

You don’t get to tell people how they should or shouldn’t protest

You are stupid -- Very VERY stupid.

Impeding the ability of police to do their job is not protest, even if you do happen to support wanton criminality like you do.

 

[OODA_Loop]

If a whistle can damage hearing can you imagine the damage ten shots from a handgun would do?

Stop saying lame shit

It only makes you look stupid and desperate

How Loud is Too Loud When It Comes to Sports Whistles? | Newswise

Referees and others using whistles on the job need a simple way to determine whether it’s harmful to their hearing, so researchers set out to put it to the test and to provide some clarity and damage risk criteria for impulse noise exposures. To do this, the group carefully measured and analyzed...

www.newswise.com

Yes, a coach's whistle can potentially damage hearing. Studies indicate that the loudness of sports whistles can contribute to hearing loss among coaches and referees. The sound levels produced by these whistles can exceed safe thresholds, especially with prolonged exposure. Research has shown that referees are more likely to experience symptoms like tinnitus (ringing in the ears) and hearing difficulties compared to the general population.


Sound Levels: Whistles can reach harmful decibel levels, often above 100 dB.
Duration of Exposure: Continuous use for extended periods increases the risk of damage.
Protective Measures: Coaches are advised to limit whistle use and consider using ear protection to mitigate risks

 

[Lesh]

You are stupid -- Very VERY stupid.

Impeding the ability of police to do their job is not protest, even if you do happen to support wanton criminality like you do.

Of course they were not doing that so…

 

[OldFlame]

You don’t get to tell people how they should or shouldn’t protest

**** off, you have zero credibility in making such a comment when you criticized the people protesting on 1/6/21 and cheered the murder of an unarmed Ashley Babbit for trespassing.

 

[Nostra]

Actually you DO have that right

Nope.

Why would you lie.....again?

 

[Nostra]

I really doubt a court would agree that ICE doing traffic duty two blocks from an operation is within their pervue

It is if it is to prevent your Murder Cult mobs from getting in the middle of the arrest. They already caused the guy to get away, Dumbass.

 

[IDIOCRACY]

If you ask me, Pretti was acting with reckless abandon by strapping on a gun and inserting himself into a border enforcement situation. Really dumb thing to do. He won't be doing that again.....

He looked potentially bipolar to me.

 

[Nostra]

If a whistle can damage hearing can you imagine the damage ten shots from a handgun would do?

I don't know if I would call neutralizing an insurrectionist as damage.

 

[Lesh]

**** off, you have zero credibility in making such a comment when you criticized the people protesting on 1/6/21 and cheered the murder of an unarmed Ashley Babbit for trespassing.

So wait

People blowing whistles are protesting improperly but a mob smashing its way into the ******* CAPITOL and actually ATTACKING police and injuring ONE HUNDRED AND FORTY LEOs is protesting correctly

You are certifiable

 

[jknowgood]

Nope he was videotaping them and when some woman was sprayed his instincts as a good man kicked and with his medical training kicking in he went to help her .. and ICE was all over him as if he was an escaped felon

I haven't seen the video and I know, you're full of shit.

 

[Nostra]

So wait

People blowing whistles are protesting improperly but a mob smashing its way into the ******* CAPITOL and actually ATTACKING police and injuring ONE HUNDRED AND FORTY LEOs is protesting correctly

You are certifiable

So you don't think law enforcement has been attacked by your lunatic Cult?

They bit one guy's finger off. Your Cult is full of cannibals.

 

[Lesh]

I haven't seen the video and I know, you're full of shit.

talk about knee jerk cult behavior

 

[Dante]

He was intimidating the officer...

not in the real world...

next

New Video Analysis Reveals Flawed and Fatal Decisions in Shooting of Pretti

A frame-by-frame assessment of actions by Alex Pretti and the two officers who fired 10 times shows how lethal force came to be used against a target who didn’t pose a threat.


When federal agents shot and killed 37-year-old Alex Pretti in Minneapolis on Saturday, officials said he approached agents with a handgun, intending to massacre them. “An individual approached U.S. Border Patrol agents with a 9 mm semiautomatic handgun.” “This looks like a situation where an individual arrived at the scene to inflict maximum damage on individuals and to kill law enforcement.”

But a Times analysis of video footage from the scene in the moments when two officers opened fire, clearly contradict federal government statements. Pretti does not appear to pose a threat to agents. In fact, at several critical junctures, he is outnumbered and under their control. Here are the key moments that reveal what happened. We see Pretti walking about, filming a group of protesters who are speaking with a federal agent. He’s holding a cell phone in one hand.

The other hand is empty. It’s just over 30 seconds before the shooting when a protester is pushed to the ground. Pretti steps between her and the agent who’d shoved her, briefly putting his hand on the agent’s waist. The agent pepper-sprays Pretti’s face.

We can see Pretti is still holding his phone in one hand while holding his other hand up to protect himself against the spray. Contrary to statements by federal officials, he’s made no threatening movements towards agents.

Pretti, who had a firearms permit, carries a gun holstered on his right hip, but he doesn’t reach for it. And it appears agents are unaware the gun is even there. He reaches toward the protester, apparently trying to help her up, while agents begin grabbing him from behind.

He tries to pull away, and again he makes no threatening movements towards the agents. But agents pull him backwards and force him to the ground. Then shots ring out. [gunfire] Now we’ll slow things down, so each moment is clear.

Here is Pretti. Several agents are restraining him. And this is the Border Patrol agent who will shoot him first. This appears to be when agents first notice that Pretti is carrying a firearm and yell that he has a gun. Watching the same moment from a different angle, the agent who first pepper-sprayed Pretti beats him several times with the spray canister.

We can see that both of Pretti’s arms are pinned down by his head. This agent in gray reaches to remove Pretti’s weapon from his hip, as this agent unholsters his gun, nudges the agent in gray out of the way and fires. [gunfire] Let’s rewind and focus on the agent who shoots first. Just seconds before he fired, he was facing away from Pretti and focusing on an entirely different situation as he tries to spray a nearby woman with an irritant. The spray appears to malfunction, and the agent turns as he adjusts it. That’s when someone yells that Pretti has a gun. And around five seconds after fully turning his attention toward Pretti, the agent draws his weapon and shoots. [gunfire] His arm visibly recoils at the first shot. The firearm has clearly been removed from the scrum when the first shots are fired toward Pretti at close range. [gunfire]

The officer who disarmed Pretti can be seen reacting to the sound of the first shot, looking back toward the skirmish. The shooter was standing behind Pretti and not under direct threat, contradicting statements from Homeland Security officials that he fired defensive shots.

He also has a vantage point to see the gun pulled from the scene, but it’s unclear if he did and whether he thought a weapon was still on Pretti. He then fires three more shots from behind Pretti, whose arms are down as he appears to brace himself against the pavement.

In one hand, he still holds his phone, and in his other, his glasses. The agent in gray, who removed Pretti’s gun, carries it across the street. Pretti is disarmed and falling to the ground.

But the agent who first pepper-sprayed Pretti and later beat him with a canister, also pulls out his gun. From a distance, despite the fact that Pretti is lying motionless on the ground, these two agents fire six more shots. Neither is under threat. [screaming] [gunfire, screaming] In total, the agents fire 10 shots in five seconds.

After the shooting, an agent kneeling next to Pretti’s body asks where the gun is — — showing that not all of the officers seem to know the weapon had been removed. Agents appear to begin giving medical aid. About 31 seconds elapsed from the time agents first physically engaged Pretti to the moment the last shot was fired.

 

[toomuchtime_]

How did he directly impede the officer from doing his legal job or mission, what was his JOB that he was impeded by Alex?

I don't think any of what your claiming was going on, makes a lick of sense when watching the videos.

Now you're just being a heckler.