The war you're watching isn't a war. What unrestricted US warfare actually looks like.

[leftwinger]

How many surrounding nations has Iran attacked ?

~S~

Many. Indirectly thru terrorism. Also Taking down full civilian airliners.

 

[leftwinger]

Darkwind

I agree about “winning”. Not sure that paying $3.87 a gallon for gasoline is winning when they weren’t much of a threat to us though. And when the Arabs start rolling out their next wave of terrorism in response to this it will be interesting to see what remaining freedoms are taken from us (i.e. getting on airplanes without removing your shoes). You DO realize that blowback is coming our way for this, right?

Here's doubting you even pay $50/mo extra in gas (and it should be a few months max). Just SHUP loon.

 

[BlindBoo]

Keep pretending that we have to be perfect all the time but other countries can **** us over and we have to take it.

And when the lefties came and took over in those countries, they turned in to paradises?

Feel free to show where I've ever claimed we must be perfect all the time. My claim is that we have not been as benevolent or benign in our interventions as some like to say, not that we have to be perfect all the time.

 

[Darkwind]

I'm not the one pretending that in our foreign policy of intervention, we have been benevolent angels. What did the Iranians do to us in 1953?

What are they doing to the world right now. And if you believe they are not doing anything and haven't for the past 47 years, then you are going on the ignore list as just another antim-american POS.

 

[JGalt]

The history of our interventions has not been the benevolent fairytale the politicians and talking heads claim. Those claims are simply pasteurized history.

Remember "He who controls the spice, controls the world". Ops, did I say spice, I meant oil.....

We control the oil. We can make the price go up or down, and destroy entire economies, if we see fit.

 

[Darkwind]

Feel free to show where I've ever claimed we must be perfect all the time. My claim is that we have not been as benevolent or benign in our interventions as some like to claim, not that we have to be perfect all the time.

The fact is, we have been FAR MORE benevolent and benign than ANY OTHER NATION on the planet.

 

[Conservative from Georgia]

Read the post OP. We are not at war. We are standing in front of a barrel of fish with a 50 cal.

And that is the "other means".

This guy is quoting the OP, who called it a war himself just yesterday. Talk about a self-own. See attached.

 

[Darkwind]

We control the oil. We can make the price go up or down, and destroy entire economies, if we see fit.

And we don't.

We could conquer the world, but we don't.

We could just take over the economies of nations that rape us with outrageous tariffs, but we don't.

We could be the worst thing this planet has seen outside of China and the southern Asian continent, but we aren't.

We have even made economic deals with countries that were not in our best interest so that we could have a friend as a trading partner.

How have we been treated by the world?

As an ATM, yet we still do business with them.

The world has not seen as gentle a giant in its entire history.

But that does not mean we won't look out for our interests when necessary.

What people seem to fail to understand is when countries like Iran say, 'Death to America'. They are saying they intend to kill you and those people you love.

 

[JGalt]

And we don't.

We could conquer the world, but we don't.
We could just take over the economies of nations that rape us with outrageous tariffs, but we don't.

We could be the worst thing this planet has seen outside of China and the southern Asian continent, but we aren't.

We have even made economic deals with countries that were not in our best interest so that we could have a friend as a trading partner.

How have we been treated by the world?

As an ATM, yet we still do business with them.

The world has not seen as gentle a giant in its entire history.

But that does not mean we won't look out for our interests when necessary.

What people seem to fail to understand is when countries like Iran say, 'Death to America'. They are saying they intend to kill you and those people you love.

That was so poignant I thought it brought a tear to my eye.

Or maybe it's just dusty in here.

 

[Darkwind]

That was so poignant I thought it brought a tear to my eye.

Or maybe it's just dusty in here.

Must be the dust. LOL

 

[Anomalism]

If we were very restrained, we would have used other means, rather than going to war, against and "imminent" threat, that could not be imminent for years to come.

If we weren't restrained, Iran would be a glass crater right now.

 

[leftwinger]

What's the difference?

Learn to get along with the neighbors (or let them be) is the moral of that story.//

 

[BlindBoo]

The fact is, we have been FAR MORE benevolent and benign than ANY OTHER NATION on the planet.

How was the USA arming Iraq and selling them the means to make chemical and biological weapons benevolent? Other than the profits made by US and our Allies companies that is. It was certainly malevolent for Iran during the war, and then Iraq when we used the very weapons we supplied them with, as a pretext to invade. How many people were killed by that policy decision?

 

[leftwinger]

Maybe the USA with a $1 Trillion military budget needs to stop looking to pick fights all over the world

It only took about 47 yrs of negotiations to get fed up and attempt to affe t change.

 

[westwall]

It is fiction, to think or act as if Iran had the capability to carry out such a war on the US, 6,300 miles away. You might as well be talking about a war with aliens that are adrift in space, on life support. Totally unreal and unnecessary for the security of the US and North American continent.

Iran has been murdering US citizens for 47 years. They have been developing their missile systems, and drone warfare systems for 20 years.

They were developing a nuke for at least 30 years. Of they ever got it, they would have used it.

Fortunately Trump and Co. Didn't have their heads in the sand like others, hoping Iran would just go away.

 

[Darkwind]

How was the USA arming Iraq and selling them the means to make chemical and biological weapons benevolent? Other than the profits made by US and our Allies companies that is. It was certainly malevolent for Iran during the war, and then Iraq when we used the very weapons we supplied them with, as a pretext to invade. How many people were killed by that policy decision?

So, take the left wing filter off those actions.

I never said we were perfect.

Only that we are far more benevolent than this world has ever seen.

 

[westwall]

If we weren't restrained, Iran would be a glass crater right now.

True.

 

[leftwinger]

How was the USA arming Iraq and selling them the means to make chemical and biological weapons benevolent? Other than the profits made by US and our Allies companies that is. It was certainly malevolent for Iran during the war, and then Iraq when we used the very weapons we supplied them with, as a pretext to invade. How many people were killed by that policy decision?

Make up stories much?

 

[Darkwind]

Iran has been murdering US citizens for 47 years. They have been developing their missile systems, and drone warfare systems for 20 years.

They were developing a nuke for at least 30 years. Of they ever got it, they would have used it.

Fortunately Trump and Co. Didn't have their heads in the sand like others, hoping Iran would just go away.

Here is the thing that they fail to distinguish regarding this.

We have developed those weapons to defend ourselves and free nations.

Iran and countries like it develop those weapons for world dominance. Not benevolent world dominance either.

Although I am enjoying exposing the hate America people on this forum.

 

[JGalt]

If we were very restrained, we would have used other means, rather than going to war, against and "imminent" threat, that could not be imminent for years to come.

What other means? Some people don't respond to those. We've been sanctioning Iran for decades, seizing their assets, and killing those proxies Iran has been paying to spread death all over the world. We've even sent them pallets of cash under previous administrations. And all of it to no avail.

At what point were we just supposed to say "Stop"?