The War on World War II: Why False Revisionism Must Be Defeated

I am pissed off the Russians are still a murdering dictatorship. They have not changed since Ivan the Terrible.
the best post for today !



 
Nope, he was there and didn't go on crank websites like you do. Man was a combat medic, he could probably tell the difference between people who were systematically starved to death and people killed by bombs.

Had screaming nightmares for the rest of his life from what he saw.



If you knew any of those people, you wouldn't spew the noxious shit you do. In fact, I'm not sure why you spew the obvious garbage you do.





your spew about how the Holocaust wasn't so bad because someone embellished the story about lampshades being made from human skin (only one actual documented case of that happening) really doesn't carry much weight.

12 million people were systematically killed by the Nazis and their allies. Period. full stop.
Correct Joe, GRAU is a intelligent guy but has a blind spot with the Holocaust, which started before WW2 they are gassing disabled people using exhaust fumes from trucks, there is much evidence of mass Murder on a Industrial scale of Jews but not just Jews, Soviet POW were not sent to POW camps like like British and other allied Soldiers they were sent to concentration Camps and extermination camps, your Dad suffered with the memories of Nordhausen, was that the V 2 site where they used slave labour? my own Dad entered Burgen Belsen with the British Army and like your Dad mine was troubled most of his life with what he saw there and had nightmares, he was in his twenties and before the war didn't travel much further than the next Town, and the Nazis used different methods of murder just look at the Einsatzgruppen in Eastern Europe and the Soviet Union, we have had evidence from more than one SS guard at Auschwitz, to deny it happened is ridiculous.
On the day this film was made my Dad was in that Camp as a British Soldier, i have some photos he brought back some of the SS guards in the film are on those photos.
 
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Nope, he was there and didn't go on crank websites like you do. Man was a combat medic, he could probably tell the difference between people who were systematically starved to death and people killed by bombs.

Had screaming nightmares for the rest of his life from what he saw.



If you knew any of those people, you wouldn't spew the noxious shit you do. In fact, I'm not sure why you spew the obvious garbage you do.





your spew about how the Holocaust wasn't so bad because someone embellished the story about lampshades being made from human skin (only one actual documented case of that happening) really doesn't carry much weight.

12 million people were systematically killed by the Nazis and their allies. Period. full stop.


Hogwash,

Turn off the TV, learn German, read and learn from honest sources rather than rubbish from the same person who also convinced you that there was a Tooth fairy.
 
This is an important point. I have a deep interest in WWII as I realize how important it was for the outcome of the world and I've always been compelled to understand as many aspects of that horrific period in our species history from the development of what started the war to the individual operations, spy efforts and of course, the evil that was committed against humans.

Though America and Canada are separated from Europe, Canada in particular would have drastically changed if Britain fell. Ironically it is possible we would have been far more American today if Germany had won, assuming they couldn't leverage the British navy if they won the war to attack the U.S (or their technology wouldn't have surpassed the U.S rapidly).

For years I have considered writing a book or a movie script regarding some key issues of the Second World War, many of which aren't as well known or haven't been addressed in movies. The more factual WWII movies are the better it is to educate a new generation. I've seen many young people reaction to Schindlers List for instance which is relatively historically accurate.

I agree with you that it is vital especially in the face of revisionism which is only going to explode as the hatred for the West is promoted by Americas enemies.
 
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Hogwash,

Turn off the TV, learn German, read and learn from honest sources rather than rubbish from the same person who also convinced you that there was a Tooth fairy.

Actually, the Germans arrest holocaust deniers.


The German penal code prohibits publicly denying the Holocaust and disseminating Nazi propaganda, both off- and online. This includes sharing images such as swastikas, wearing an SS uniform and making statements in support of Hitler.

It also places strict rules on how social media companies must moderate and report hate speech and threats. These hate-speech laws were tightened last year, after three far-right terror attacks in 2019 and early 2020 prompted German authorities to warn of increasing extremism.
 
This is an important point. I have a deep interest in WWII as I realize how important it was for the outcome of the world and I've always been compelled to understand as many aspects of that horrific period in our species history from the development of what started the war to the individual operations, spy efforts and of course, the evil that was committed against humans.

Though America and Canada are separated from Europe, Canada in particular would have drastically changed. Ironically it is possible we would have been far more American today if Germany had one, assuming they couldn't leverage the British navy if they won the war to attack the U.S (or their technology wouldn't have surpassed the U.S rapidly).

For years I have considered writing a book or a movie script regarding some key issues of the Second World War, many of which aren't as well known or haven't been addressed in movies. The more factual WWII movies are the better it is to educate a new generation. I've seen many young people reaction to Schindlers List for instance which is relatively historically accurate.

I agree with you that it is vital especially in the face of revisionism which is only going to explode as the hatred for the West is promoted by Americas enemies.
Have you seen come and see by Elem Klimov?
 
According to Grau, all those soldiers are lying about what they saw, and some crank from Northwestern is telling the truth.
Some of the photos Dad brought home, you will see some of these SS guards and who they were in the vid i posted, and a NAZI army Diary my Dad took from a German POW.
 

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"PROPAGANDISTS MUST HAVE CENSORSHIP"


Actually, the Germans arrest holocaust deniers.


The German penal code prohibits publicly denying the Holocaust and disseminating Nazi propaganda, both off- and online. This includes sharing images such as swastikas, wearing an SS uniform and making statements in support of Hitler.

It also places strict rules on how social media companies must moderate and report hate speech and threats. These hate-speech laws were tightened last year, after three far-right terror attacks in 2019 and early 2020 prompted German authorities to warn of increasing extremism.



“If you would know who controls you see who you may not criticise.”

Tacitus
A quote by Publius Cornelius Tacitus


The only thing that conspicuously selective censorship laws prove is that the fraudulent, (1), (2) multi $ Billion dollar international Holocaust Industry and it's gullible rubes are entirely incapable of defending their grossly exaggerated standard Holocaust narrative in any open and honest discussion.

Only lies must have draconian censorship laws while the truth welcomes open discussion and honest examination.

A perfect example is your complete inability to refute any of the facts I have both written and supported with anything but personal slurs and the delusional musings of one confused individual.

Below is a photo of Nordhausen that clearly shows bombed buildings and the victims of the British bombing raid that killed them.

If "dad" didn't happen to notice something as blatantly obvious as the destruction of entire buildings, there is no reason to believe any of the other things the O.W.I., Hollywood and the fledgling Holocaust Industry deceived him into believing.

After all, I hope you're not so gullible as to think that only the other side used propaganda because in addition to other grisly and fake props, Hollywood's Billy Wilder (3) and the O.W. I. were busily enlarging piles of bodies with dead German soldiers and civilians etc to further deceive and horrify unsuspecting Western liberators.



Corpses in the courtyard of Nordhausen concentration camp


There is no shortage of blatantly obvious proof that Hollywood was and remains complicit with the Holocaust Industry in lying about the most profitable and grossly exploited tragedy in history.



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I'm surprised that "dad" didn't also tell you stories of "human skin lampshades", "human fat soap", shrunken heads and homicidal "vaporizing chambers"(4) which were as plentiful as the equally fictional homicidal gas chambers which only the most effectively deceived individuals still believe.

Finally, I dare you to produce any legitimate photograph, blueprint, work order or maintenance request for a real homicidal gas chamber since the only one that existed was a fake one built by German P.O.W.s after the war. (5)

Not only does the account by Gerhart Schirmer expose the fraudulent nature of the Holocaust Industry's mythical homicidal gas chamber fable, it also shows the extensive degree to which the international Holocaust Industry works to repress the truth.

So, let's see a photograph, blueprint etc of just one mythical homicidal gas chamber.
The only thing close was the gas delousing chamber for old clothes, blankets etc which was similar to delousing chambers used around the world.



(1). ”17 CHARGED IN $42 MILLION HOLOCAUST FRAUD CASE"
http://www.nbcnews.com/id/40093058/...ed-million-holocaust-fraud-case/#.XU62pSMwi_U

EXCERPT "Federal prosecutors said Tuesday they have broken up a long-running scam in which people falsely claimed to be victims of the Nazi persecution so they could get money out of a fund that pays Holocaust reparations."CONTINUED


(2). ”HOLOCAUST CLAIMS CONFERENCE FRAUD LIKELY ‘MUCH HIGHER’ THAN $57 MILLION"

"Holocaust Claims Conference fraud likely ‘much higher’ than $57 million | The Jerusalem Post"

"For over a decade, a criminal ring within the organization embezzled tens of millions of dollars through false restitution claims."
www.jpost.com
www.jpost.com

EXCERPT "For over a decade, a criminal ring within the organization embezzled tens of millions of dollars through false restitution claims.

Writing to the Claims Conference’s board last week, recently terminated ombudsman Shmuel Hollander asserted that, while reports had said organizational insiders had siphoned off $57 million in

German taxpayer funds meant for survivors, “the final sum is in all probability much higher.” CONTINUED



(3). “The Director of the Holocau$t - Khazar Expatriate Billy Wilder”

EXCERPT “Almost all the films you've ever seen of the Holocaust were staged. Using Allied propaganda as a rough script, directors from Hollywood were shipped to Germany and Poland to direct propaganda films for post-war use. One of the most notable of these was Billy Wilder, director of meny very well known films, such as "Some Like It Hot" with Marilyn Monroe."

If you thumb through the photographs and film macabre film clips made by these directors, you will notice something odd. Among the living, many of the forlorn faces of the "death camp survivors" look oddly familiar. That is because some of the same actors were used in several shots, from totally different locations!

The involvement of film crews also goes to explain why almost all of the "concentration camp" shots were dated at least 4-5 days after the camps were liberated. They were location shots, sometimes using prisoners (minus their usual camp clothing), and sometimes actors.” CONTINUED



(4). "Auschwitz: Myths and Facts"

EXCERPT "At the Nuremberg Tribunal, chief US prosecutor Robert Jackson charged that the Germans had used a "newly invented" device to instantaneously "vaporize" 20,000 Jews near Auschwitz "in such a way that there was no trace left of them." [8] No reputable historian now accepts either of these fanciful tales." CONTINUED



(5). "NKVD Forced German POWs to Build Fake Gas Chambers AFTER the War !"

EXCERPT "As a young officer, Gerhart Schirmer was captured in 1945 by the Russians and held in Sachsenhausen which the Russians continued to use as a prison. Although the War and Nazism were over, Schirmer and a few fellow-prisoners were forced to construct a gas chamber and execution room, to show the world what the Nazis had done. He described his experiences in a booklet entitled 'Sachsenhausen - Workuta, Zehn Jahre in den Fängen der Sowjets' (Grabert Verlag, Tübingen, 1992).

When 'certain groups' drew the attention of the authorities to the booklet's contents, it was seized and banned in Germany. This is described by Schirmer below (my translation). I understand Schirmer was given the choice of a fine or prison and he chose the fine because, being over ninety, he did not relish spending his last few years behind bars, especially as he had already spent eleven years of his life in prison." CONTINUED
 
“If you would know who controls you see who you may not criticise.”

Tacitus
A quote by Publius Cornelius Tacitus

Actually, Tacitus never said that. Neither did Voltaire, to whom this statement is wrongly attributed to.

Who actually said it?

Kevin Alfred Strom - A Neo-Nazi who was eventually arrested for distribution of kiddie porn.


The only thing that conspicuously selective censorship laws prove is that the fraudulent, (1), (2) multi $ Billion dollar international Holocaust Industry and it's gullible rubes are entirely incapable of defending their grossly exaggerated standard Holocaust narrative in any open and honest discussion.

Only lies must have draconian censorship laws while the truth welcomes open discussion and honest examination.

No, guy, there's only so much time one can waste talking to conspiracy loons, before you move on to outright mockery.

There used to be a poster here who insisted that the Sandy Hook Massacre was a false flag operation, and that all the parents of the dead children were "Crisis Actors".

He continued to insist on this, even after the people who had instigated the conspiracy theory admitted they were making it up.

He insisted it was still true after the gun manufacturer paid out $73 million to the families.

The Holocaust is a documented historical fact.

A perfect example is your complete inability to refute any of the facts I have both written and supported with anything but personal slurs and the delusional musings of one confused individual.

Below is a photo of Nordhausen that clearly shows bombed buildings and the victims of the British bombing raid that killed them.


If "dad" didn't happen to notice something as blatantly obvious as the destruction of entire buildings, there is no reason to believe any of the other things the O.W.I., Hollywood and the fledgling Holocaust Industry deceived him into believing.

Why would he "notice" that? He was in the war from Normandy to VE Day, and he saw nothing but bombed-out buildings. Amazing, all those other places that were bombed didn't have piles of dead bodies. They didn't have ovens for disposing of the bodies. They didn't have survivors who told him, "Uh, yeah, really bad stuff happened here."

And before you go on about "real Germans", my dad was born in Germany and spoke fluent German. He was the unit's translator.

For those interested in the real history...


Nordhausen was liberated by the 104th US Infantry Division on April 12th, 1945. When the first American GI's arrived in the camp, they discovered a gruesome scene. More than 3,000 corpses were scattered, helter-skelter on the grounds. In several hangars there were no survivors and in others they found only 2 or 3 living inmates lying amongst dozen of corpses. The situation was so calamitous that the medic unit of the 104th Infantry Division had to request urgent medical reinforcments and supplies. More that 400 German civilians living in the direct vicinity of the camp were forced by the GI's to evacuate the corpses. The medic units of the 104th Division did the best they could to save as many prisoners as possible but even with the excellent care they received, numerous inmates died in the hours and days following the liberation of the camps.
 
“If you would know who controls you see who you may not criticise.”

Tacitus
A quote by Publius Cornelius Tacitus

Actually, this was not said by Tacitus. It is also often falsely credited to Voltaire, who didn't say it either.

So who actually said it?

Kevin Alfred Strom, A white nationalist and Neo-Nazi. He eventually went to prison for distributing kiddie p**n.

Kevin Alfred Strom - Wikipedia

The only thing that conspicuously selective censorship laws prove is that the fraudulent, (1), (2) multi $ Billion dollar international Holocaust Industry and it's gullible rubes are entirely incapable of defending their grossly exaggerated standard Holocaust narrative in any open and honest discussion.

Without going into your wall of crazy text, here's the problem with arguing with a conspiracy theorist. They are largely immunte
 
Actually, Tacitus never said that. Neither did Voltaire, to whom this statement is wrongly attributed to.

Who actually said it?

Kevin Alfred Strom - A Neo-Nazi who was eventually arrested for distribution of kiddie porn.




No, guy, there's only so much time one can waste talking to conspiracy loons, before you move on to outright mockery.

There used to be a poster here who insisted that the Sandy Hook Massacre was a false flag operation, and that all the parents of the dead children were "Crisis Actors".

He continued to insist on this, even after the people who had instigated the conspiracy theory admitted they were making it up.

He insisted it was still true after the gun manufacturer paid out $73 million to the families.

The Holocaust is a documented historical fact.






Why would he "notice" that? He was in the war from Normandy to VE Day, and he saw nothing but bombed-out buildings. Amazing, all those other places that were bombed didn't have piles of dead bodies. They didn't have ovens for disposing of the bodies. They didn't have survivors who told him, "Uh, yeah, really bad stuff happened here."

And before you go on about "real Germans", my dad was born in Germany and spoke fluent German. He was the unit's translator.

For those interested in the real history...


Nordhausen was liberated by the 104th US Infantry Division on April 12th, 1945. When the first American GI's arrived in the camp, they discovered a gruesome scene. More than 3,000 corpses were scattered, helter-skelter on the grounds. In several hangars there were no survivors and in others they found only 2 or 3 living inmates lying amongst dozen of corpses. The situation was so calamitous that the medic unit of the 104th Infantry Division had to request urgent medical reinforcments and supplies. More that 400 German civilians living in the direct vicinity of the camp were forced by the GI's to evacuate the corpses. The medic units of the 104th Division did the best they could to save as many prisoners as possible but even with the excellent care they received, numerous inmates died in the hours and days following the liberation of the camps.


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Why would he "notice" that?

What a dumb question.

It's about as dumb as concluding that someone with a bullet hole in his head died of Leprosy.

Even the dimmest of wits who was aware that the residential buildings and hospitals in Nordhausen were bombed by the British would conclude that the bodies pulled from the ruined structures were not victims of "homicidal gas chambers" or firing squads.

You're not getting any "real history" from another mouthpiece of the fraudulent Holocaust Industry that has so hopelessly brainwashed you.

Your convenient evasion of my challenge for you to produce a photo, blueprint, work order or maintenance request for just one homicidal gas chamber reveals your blind gullibility to complete rubbish.

If "millions" were killed in homicidal gas chambers, there should be hundreds of them around Germany, Poland etc and countless photos, blueprints etc.

Where are they all?

Why can't you find just one?

Hint: They, like the mythical homicidal steam, electrocution and "vaporizing" chambers are just more Holocaust Industry / Hollywood / O.W.I. propaganda (1)

Other facts that "daddy" didn't tell you that prove the standard Holocaust narrative to be grossly exaggerated:

1. Many High Ranking members of Germany's National Socialist Party (aka "Nazis") were full or partial Jews. (3)

2. Of the approximately 150,000 Jews who served in Hitler's WW 2 military, many rose to the highest ranks and received Germany's highest awards with the full knowledge and support of Hitler and the German High Command. (4)

3. There are no written orders for the mass murder of anyone from Hitler that exist anywhere. (5) There are written orders from Eisenhower, Stalin and Churchill for mass murder but none from Hitler?

4. "Jewish scholar Arno Mayer, a professor of history at Princeton University, acknowledges in his 1988 book about the “final solution” that more Jews perished at Auschwitz as a result of typhus and other “natural” causes than were executed." (6)

In addition to thousands of Holocaust survivors who deny the existence of homicidal gas chambers and an industrialized extermination program (7) there is far more evidence that the standard Holocaust narrative is simply fraudulent but very profitable anti German propaganda driven by an insatiably greedy and dishonest international, multi $ Billion dollar Holocaust Industry and a complicit Hollywood that continues to saturate the minds of poorly educated and gullible individuals with profitable lies as it has since the days of WW 2.

Even though I am about the only individual in this forum who can provide independent sources debunking ubiquitous and fraudulent Holocaust Industry propaganda, I realize the futility of enlightening any gullible person lacking an ounce of Critical Literacy who remains a victim saturated by decades of relentless Hollywood / Holocaust Industry lies plus profitable and bigoted anti German propaganda.

Finally, I'd be embarrassed to show that my only sources were the confused musings of one anonymous individual (i.e. "dad") and recitations of stale, bigoted and thoroughly debunked Hollywood / Holocaust Industry propaganda (i.e. "jewishgen.org").

So, as I wrote earlier, if "millions" were killed in homicidal gas chambers then hundreds of them must have existed throughout Poland, Germany etc.

Therefore, you should have no trouble finding just one photograph, blueprint, work order or maintenance request of just one German made homicidal gas chamber; not widespread delousing chambers as were used by numerous governments.

Where are all those German made, Holocaust era homicidal gas chambers or have you been duped again?



(1). “Auschwitz: Myths and Facts”
EXCERPT:

“Allied Propaganda


"The Auschwitz gassing story is based in large part on the hearsay statements of former Jewish inmates who did not personally see any actual signs of extermination. Their beliefs are understandable, because rumors about gassings at Auschwitz were widespread. Allied planes dropped large numbers of leaflets, written in Polish and German, on Auschwitz and the surrounding areas which claimed that people were being gassed in the camp. The Auschwitz gassing story, which was an important part of the Allied wartime propaganda effort, was also broadcast to Europe by Allied radio stations. [15] CONTINUED

15. Nuremberg document NI-11696. NMT "green series," Vol. 8, p. 606.


(2). "RED CROSS DENIES HOLOCAUST!: 1948 ICRC Report: No Evidence Of Genocide, Gas Chambers Or Systematic Extermination Of Jews. Most Deaths Caused By “Barbarous Bombing Of Civilian Germany By the U.S and U.K. Which Is A War Crime!” – ICRC PDF Here. UPDATE: In 2006, 58 Years Later, The ICRC Changed Their Story."


EXCERPT “In 1947 The International Committee Of The Red Cross launched a Full
Investigation into the question of a Holocaust of Jews in German Controlled Concentration Camps during World War 2.

They found No Evidence Of Genocide, Gas Chambers Or Systematic Extermination Of Jews, and blamed most of the deaths on the “Barbarous Bombing Of Civilian Transportation Infrastructure in Germany By the U.S and U.K., which led to mass starvation, Typhus, and Death of the Civilian Population and in the Labor Camps which couldn’t get food, Medicine or any supplies at all. They called it a War Crime!” CONTINUED


(3). “List of Nazis of non-Germanic descent”

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Nazis_of_non-Germanic_descent

EXCERPT “Notably, there were several high-ranking Nazis of full and partial Jewish descent. “ CONTINUED


(4). "Historian claims Hitler personally approved officers of Jewish descent to fight for Nazis"

"ADOLF HITLER personally allowed at least 77 army officers of Jewish descent, including 25 generals, to fight for the Nazi cause…"



EXCERPT ""In many cases, Hitler decided personally what should be done with soldiers of Jewish descent - and he made different decisions from case to case."

The most senior general of Jewish origin was Field Marshall Erhard Milch, who rose to be general inspector of the Luftwaffe and was convicted of war crimes after 1945." CONTINUED


(5). “To the present day a written order by Hitler regarding the destruction of the European Jewish community has not been found, and, in all probability, this order was never given.”

- Walter Laqueur, Was niemand wissen wollte: Die Unterdruckung der Nachrichten uber Hitlers Endlösung (What Nobody Wanted to Know: The Suppression of News About Hitler’s “Final Solution”), (Berlin-Vienna, 1981), p.190



(6). “HOLOCAUST DEPROGRAMMING COURSE”

EXCERPT. "Jewish scholar Arno Mayer, a professor of history at Princeton University, acknowledges in his 1988 book about the “final solution” that more Jews perished at Auschwitz as a result of typhus and other “natural” causes than were executed." CONTINUED


(7). "Auschwitz: Myths and Facts"
http://www.ihr.org/leaflets/auschwitz.shtml

- EXCERPT " An Austrian woman, Maria Vanherwaarden, testified about her camp experiences in a Toronto District Court in March 1988. She was interned in Auschwitz-Birkenau in 1942 for having sexual relations with a Polish forced laborer. On the train journey to the camp, a Gypsy woman told her and the others that they would all be gassed at Auschwitz. Upon arrival, Maria and the other women were ordered to undress and go into a large concrete room without windows to take a shower. The terrified women were sure that they were about to die. But then, instead of gas, water came out of the shower heads." CONTINUED

- EXCERPT " A Jewish woman named Marika Frank arrived at Auschwitz-Birkenau from Hungary in July 1944, when 25,000 Jews were supposedly gassed and cremated daily. She likewise testified after the war that she heard and saw nothing of gas chambers during the time she was interned there. She heard the gassing stories only later." CONTINUED
 
What's Hogwash? my father was there.


I don't doubt it, however I'm able to support the accounts of the dozens of Holocaust survivors, German WW 2 Veterans and survivors, former Russian POWs and Allied WW 2 I've known, worked and lived with over the decades using numerous independent and mainstream sources.

For the sake of simplicity, I'll ask you also to show just one photo, blueprint, work order or maintenance request for the hundreds of homicidal gas chambers that would have existed to kill millions over such a short time.

Please don't mistake the numerous delousing chambers as were used worldwide with a homicidal gas chamber.

You'll find that the ubiquitous fables about "millions of gassings" via homicidal gas chambers etc are just as fictitious as earlier homicidal steam, electrocution, and vaporizing chambers.

Authentic German typewriters, stationary, stamps, ink etc were highly valued after the war to generate fraudulent documents for propaganda purposes. Because I was / am fluent in High German, Middle German and the various dialects, I was able to distinguish some fake documents written by non German speaking Holocaust Industry propagandists.

For example:


"Auschwitz Expert: Blueprints Found in Berlin Not of Death Camp"
Auschwitz expert: Blueprints found in Berlin not of death camp

EXCERPT "Prof. Robert Jan van Pelt, a internationally acknowledged expert on the planning and construction of Auschwitz,

Van Pelt, an architectural historian, said that copies of the plans of the stages of the camp's construction were also in the archive of the Polish National Museum at Auschwitz and in an archive in Moscow.

Van Pelt said he also doubted the authenticity of the signature of the SS chief, Heinrich Himmler, since such a high-ranking officer would not have signed such plans, and none of the copies he had ever seen bore such a signature.

Van Pelt also said the words "gas chamber" on one of the drawings meant a room in which disinfection of clothing was done by means of gas, and that the sketch is not of an extermination camp established in 1942, but rather of earlier plans for a huge concentration camp in which a force of 130,000 slave laborers was intended to work.

Van Pelt suggested the plans might be fakes, motivated by the lucrative market in Nazi memorabilia and documents."CONTINUED

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Thanks,


 
Dude, I'm not going to plow through your wall of crazy text.

What a dumb question.

It's about as dumb as concluding that someone with a bullet hole in his head died of Leprosy.

Even the dimmest of wits who was aware that the residential buildings and hospitals in Nordhausen were bombed by the British would conclude that the bodies pulled from the ruined structures were not victims of "homicidal gas chambers" or firing squads.

You're not getting any "real history" from another mouthpiece of the fraudulent Holocaust Industry that has so hopelessly brainwashed you.

NO, they died of disease and being worked to death. That doesn't make the Nazis less culpable. Nordhausen is where they sent people to die once they were too sick to work at Dora-Mittelbau.

Your convenient evasion of my challenge for you to produce a photo, blueprint, work order or maintenance request for just one homicidal gas chamber reveals your blind gullibility to complete rubbish.

If "millions" were killed in homicidal gas chambers, there should be hundreds of them around Germany, Poland etc and countless photos, blueprints etc.

Where are they all?

Why can't you find just one?

They've been well-documented.


I do not know who constructed the gas chambers, but I know they were built in 1942. They were made of reinforced concrete and were very strong. The hermetic doors were very strongly made of wood.

I want to say now that I was at BIRKENAW from 27th. February 1944 until 18th January 1945.

At BIRKENAW the disinfecting of clothes was done by boiling them; there was no disinfestation by gas. I know that disinfecting of clothes at AUSCHWITZ itself was done by use of a gas chambers which was also used for killing people.

At BIRKENAW the gas used for killing people was prussic acid, also called ZYKLON B.

The quantities of gas ZYKLON B used were as follows. For the two large gas chambers attached to crematoriums 1 and 2 it required two tins for each chamber. For the smaller gas chambers attached to crematoriums 3 and 4 it required one tin for each chamber. The tins were cylindrical with a diameter of 20-30 centimetres and about 50 centimetres tall. To kill a chamber full of people required 3-5 minutes.
 
Dude, I'm not going to plow through your wall of crazy text.



NO, they died of disease and being worked to death. That doesn't make the Nazis less culpable. Nordhausen is where they sent people to die once they were too sick to work at Dora-Mittelbau.



They've been well-documented.


I do not know who constructed the gas chambers, but I know they were built in 1942. They were made of reinforced concrete and were very strong. The hermetic doors were very strongly made of wood.

I want to say now that I was at BIRKENAW from 27th. February 1944 until 18th January 1945.

At BIRKENAW the disinfecting of clothes was done by boiling them; there was no disinfestation by gas. I know that disinfecting of clothes at AUSCHWITZ itself was done by use of a gas chambers which was also used for killing people.

At BIRKENAW the gas used for killing people was prussic acid, also called ZYKLON B.

The quantities of gas ZYKLON B used were as follows. For the two large gas chambers attached to crematoriums 1 and 2 it required two tins for each chamber. For the smaller gas chambers attached to crematoriums 3 and 4 it required one tin for each chamber. The tins were cylindrical with a diameter of 20-30 centimetres and about 50 centimetres tall. To kill a chamber full of people required 3-5 minutes.
Over the years i have heard testimony from former SS guards and the Sonder Kommando personnel who burned the bodies in huge pits etc.
 
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Have you seen come and see by Elem Klimov?


An imperialist Muscovite (with zero connection to Belarus or Belarusians) who worked for the totalitarian Bolshevik empire—much like you do here, 24/7?
CONTEXT :
After the Second World War, 10-million-strong Belarus ⚪🔴⚪ lost around 3 million of its people. However, nearly 2 million had already been killed before the war by the Bolshevik colonial empire . In Belarus, 80 percent of all Belarusian writers were physically exterminated, along with scientists and artists. (The troupe of the Third Belarusian State Theatre of Uladzislau Halubok was arrested in full. Almost all were executed.) People were killed based on their national identity. For this, the label “natsdem” was invented (meaning “national democrat,” although no such party existed). This label was stuck onto all Belarusians whom the Stalinists planned to eliminate.

Deep within the NKVD, a fictitious anti-communist organization called SVB (“Union for the Liberation of Belarus”) was fabricated. Under this phantom, NKVD agents carried out arrests, conducted imaginary investigations, interrogated, tortured, sentenced, then exiled people to the Moscow Empire and executed innocent individuals.

After the Riga betrayal of 1921, Belarus was divided between Poland and the Moscow Empire. The border was drawn near Minsk. A secret NKVD directive ordered the extermination of all Belarusian population along the border. The Moscow occupiers wanted to create a depopulated zone. The extermination was carried out by border troops. Trusted agents were given a rifle and a shovel. If such a border soldier encountered a lone Belarusian man, woman, or child in a deserted place (on the road, in a field, in the forest), he would shoot the person, dig a grave with the shovel, and bury the body on the spot. That was the instruction. Belarusians in villages feared not “the man with the gun” as much as “the soldier with the shovel.” (These facts were published in the Belarusian press in the early 1990s.)

In the 1930s, 95–99 percent (virtually all) of the Belarusian communist-party and Soviet administration was exterminated (exiled and executed). Even directors and economic managers were eliminated. The positions of the murdered Belarusian administrators and communist officials were filled by “Muscovites” from the Moscow Empire. These “Muscovites” (so-called “appointees”) arrived in Belarus, took over the vacant posts, received privileges, property, apartments—and the first thing they did was shut down Belarusian schools and switch them to the “Moscow” language so their children could study without the burden of learning what they called the “useless” Belarusian language. In this way, the occupiers created a “Moscow-speaking” population in Belarus. Ethnocide, linguacide, mnemonicide, and genocide were carried out by the Bolsheviks simultaneously.

The extermination of Belarusians by the Moscow NKVD continued even during the German occupation. In June 1941, in the first days of the war, communists executed thousands of prisoners in jails and during transfers. Only in the Brest Fortress, which housed a terrifying NKVD prison, they didn’t manage to liquidate all detainees—some escaped. Meanwhile, a large group of NKVD guards and officials were trapped in the fortress by the Germans. They remained there for about a month until they died off. Twenty years after the war, communists invented the legend of the “heroic defense” of the Brest Fortress.

It is notable that the broad Bolshevik partisan movement was organized only in Belarus and partially in ethnically Belarusian lands that were part of the Moscow Empire (Smalensk region, Bransk region). In the occupied Moscow Empire, there was no partisan movement. Why? Because the plan to exterminate the Belarusian nation continued. Moscow, using NKVD organs, dragged masses of civilian Belarusians into the war against the Germans, thereby exposing Belarusians to German retaliation. A necessary struggle was born of a treacherous scheme and carried out by vile methods. (Stalin wanted to reap double benefit.) NKVD agents would deliberately kill a German near a Belarusian village or stage another provocation to trigger a punitive operation by the Nazis (who typically burned the entire village, often with its inhabitants). Thus, as a result of a Bolshevik partisan provocation, the famous village of Khatyn was burned—later, in the 1970s, communists promoted it worldwide as a typical victim of fascist atrocities.

As a result of this joint Bolshevik–fascist “work,” more than 9,000 villages were burned in Belarus. By the end of the war, due to a special NKVD operation, many Belarusian commanders were sent to their deaths, removed from command, killed, and repressed. Their places were taken by Muscovites sent from Moscow and loyal NKVD agents.


In the summer of 1944, when the Red Army occupied Belarus, the Muscovites conducted a military mobilization on Belarusian territory. Tens of thousands of young Belarusian men, almost without training, were thrown onto the front lines. Moscow commanders sent them into pointless attacks under German machine-gun fire, often without even giving them weapons—or with rifles but no ammunition. They died by the thousands, like grass under a scythe. Those who fled were shot by NKVD “blocking detachments.” In fact, the blocking detachments shot people in the back. Thus, the extermination of Belarusians continued during the war—by the hands of both Germans and Muscovites. As the communists said, “in the struggle for the Soviet motherland.”

In the 1940s, Muscovites deported to Siberia and tortured all foresters and so-called “kulaks” from Western Belarus. They were deported in train cars, according to quotas.

According to historian Leanid Marakoŭ, of approximately 540–570 writers who had been published in Belarus in the 1920s and 1930s, not less than 440–460 (80%) became victims of Bolshevik imperial repression.
shockedcanadian
 
An imperialist Muscovite (with zero connection to Belarus or Belarusians) who worked for the totalitarian Bolshevik empire—much like you do here, 24/7?
CONTEXT :
After the Second World War, 10-million-strong Belarus ⚪🔴⚪ lost around 3 million of its people. However, nearly 2 million had already been killed before the war by the Bolshevik colonial empire . In Belarus, 80 percent of all Belarusian writers were physically exterminated, along with scientists and artists. (The troupe of the Third Belarusian State Theatre of Uladzislau Halubok was arrested in full. Almost all were executed.) People were killed based on their national identity. For this, the label “natsdem” was invented (meaning “national democrat,” although no such party existed). This label was stuck onto all Belarusians whom the Stalinists planned to eliminate.

Deep within the NKVD, a fictitious anti-communist organization called SVB (“Union for the Liberation of Belarus”) was fabricated. Under this phantom, NKVD agents carried out arrests, conducted imaginary investigations, interrogated, tortured, sentenced, then exiled people to the Moscow Empire and executed innocent individuals.

After the Riga betrayal of 1921, Belarus was divided between Poland and the Moscow Empire. The border was drawn near Minsk. A secret NKVD directive ordered the extermination of all Belarusian population along the border. The Moscow occupiers wanted to create a depopulated zone. The extermination was carried out by border troops. Trusted agents were given a rifle and a shovel. If such a border soldier encountered a lone Belarusian man, woman, or child in a deserted place (on the road, in a field, in the forest), he would shoot the person, dig a grave with the shovel, and bury the body on the spot. That was the instruction. Belarusians in villages feared not “the man with the gun” as much as “the soldier with the shovel.” (These facts were published in the Belarusian press in the early 1990s.)

In the 1930s, 95–99 percent (virtually all) of the Belarusian communist-party and Soviet administration was exterminated (exiled and executed). Even directors and economic managers were eliminated. The positions of the murdered Belarusian administrators and communist officials were filled by “Muscovites” from the Moscow Empire. These “Muscovites” (so-called “appointees”) arrived in Belarus, took over the vacant posts, received privileges, property, apartments—and the first thing they did was shut down Belarusian schools and switch them to the “Moscow” language so their children could study without the burden of learning what they called the “useless” Belarusian language. In this way, the occupiers created a “Moscow-speaking” population in Belarus. Ethnocide, linguacide, mnemonicide, and genocide were carried out by the Bolsheviks simultaneously.

The extermination of Belarusians by the Moscow NKVD continued even during the German occupation. In June 1941, in the first days of the war, communists executed thousands of prisoners in jails and during transfers. Only in the Brest Fortress, which housed a terrifying NKVD prison, they didn’t manage to liquidate all detainees—some escaped. Meanwhile, a large group of NKVD guards and officials were trapped in the fortress by the Germans. They remained there for about a month until they died off. Twenty years after the war, communists invented the legend of the “heroic defense” of the Brest Fortress.

It is notable that the broad Bolshevik partisan movement was organized only in Belarus and partially in ethnically Belarusian lands that were part of the Moscow Empire (Smalensk region, Bransk region). In the occupied Moscow Empire, there was no partisan movement. Why? Because the plan to exterminate the Belarusian nation continued. Moscow, using NKVD organs, dragged masses of civilian Belarusians into the war against the Germans, thereby exposing Belarusians to German retaliation. A necessary struggle was born of a treacherous scheme and carried out by vile methods. (Stalin wanted to reap double benefit.) NKVD agents would deliberately kill a German near a Belarusian village or stage another provocation to trigger a punitive operation by the Nazis (who typically burned the entire village, often with its inhabitants). Thus, as a result of a Bolshevik partisan provocation, the famous village of Khatyn was burned—later, in the 1970s, communists promoted it worldwide as a typical victim of fascist atrocities.

As a result of this joint Bolshevik–fascist “work,” more than 9,000 villages were burned in Belarus. By the end of the war, due to a special NKVD operation, many Belarusian commanders were sent to their deaths, removed from command, killed, and repressed. Their places were taken by Muscovites sent from Moscow and loyal NKVD agents.


In the summer of 1944, when the Red Army occupied Belarus, the Muscovites conducted a military mobilization on Belarusian territory. Tens of thousands of young Belarusian men, almost without training, were thrown onto the front lines. Moscow commanders sent them into pointless attacks under German machine-gun fire, often without even giving them weapons—or with rifles but no ammunition. They died by the thousands, like grass under a scythe. Those who fled were shot by NKVD “blocking detachments.” In fact, the blocking detachments shot people in the back. Thus, the extermination of Belarusians continued during the war—by the hands of both Germans and Muscovites. As the communists said, “in the struggle for the Soviet motherland.”

In the 1940s, Muscovites deported to Siberia and tortured all foresters and so-called “kulaks” from Western Belarus. They were deported in train cars, according to quotas.

According to historian Leanid Marakoŭ, of approximately 540–570 writers who had been published in Belarus in the 1920s and 1930s, not less than 440–460 (80%) became victims of Bolshevik imperial repression.
shockedcanadian
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(5). "NKVD Forced German POWs to Build Fake Gas Chambers AFTER the War !"
Of cos Stalin did it, Bolshevik imperialists even introduce to the world mobile gas chambers (gas van , gas wagon) . Still, the National Socialist German empire sought to exterminate all Jews in Europe, following the 🇷🇺 Moscow pogromist manual. My grandmother personally (as a small child ) witnessed the extermination of poor village Jews by the Germans.


 
"STILL NOT ONE PHOTO ETC OF JUST ONE HOMICIDAL GAS CHAMBER"



Dude, I'm not going to plow through your wall of crazy text.



NO, they died of disease and being worked to death. That doesn't make the Nazis less culpable. Nordhausen is where they sent people to die once they were too sick to work at Dora-Mittelbau.



They've been well-documented.


I do not know who constructed the gas chambers, but I know they were built in 1942. They were made of reinforced concrete and were very strong. The hermetic doors were very strongly made of wood.

I want to say now that I was at BIRKENAW from 27th. February 1944 until 18th January 1945.

At BIRKENAW the disinfecting of clothes was done by boiling them; there was no disinfestation by gas. I know that disinfecting of clothes at AUSCHWITZ itself was done by use of a gas chambers which was also used for killing people.

At BIRKENAW the gas used for killing people was prussic acid, also called ZYKLON B.

The quantities of gas ZYKLON B used were as follows. For the two large gas chambers attached to crematoriums 1 and 2 it required two tins for each chamber. For the smaller gas chambers attached to crematoriums 3 and 4 it required one tin for each chamber. The tins were cylindrical with a diameter of 20-30 centimetres and about 50 centimetres tall. To kill a chamber full of people required 3-5 minutes.

RE:
Dude, I'm not going to plow through your wall of crazy text.

That's right, close your eyes, cover your ears and just parrot what's been poured into your head.

You're only confirming the sad degree to which you've been thoroughly brainwashed by the fabrications of the fraudulent, international Holocaust Industry.

The fact that you cannot find even one photograph, blueprint, work order or maintenance request for the hundreds of homicidal gas, steam, electrocution or Vaporizing chambers that would have been needed to kill millions of people is proof that they didn't exist.

Now that you've parroted more profitable Holocaust Industry lies mabe you can give us the specifications of those equally fraudulent homicidal vaporization chambers:


"Auschwitz: Myths and Facts"

EXCERPT "At the Nuremberg Tribunal, chief US prosecutor Robert Jackson charged that the Germans had used a "newly invented" device to instantaneously "vaporize" 20,000 Jews near Auschwitz "in such a way that there was no trace left of them." [8] No reputable historian now accepts either of these fanciful tales." CONTINUED



The reason that you are unable to find just one photograph etc of a real homicidal gas chamber is that none existed, otherwise, why would the Allies make German POWs build a phony one for propaganda purposes:

"NKVD Forced German POWs to Build Fake Gas Chambers AFTER the War !"

EXCERPT "As a young officer, Gerhart Schirmer was captured in 1945 by the Russians and held in Sachsenhausen which the Russians continued to use as a prison. Although the War and Nazism were over, Schirmer and a few fellow-prisoners were forced to construct a gas chamber and execution room, to show the world what the Nazis had done. He described his experiences in a booklet entitled 'Sachsenhausen - Workuta, Zehn Jahre in den Fängen der Sowjets' (Grabert Verlag, Tübingen, 1992).

When 'certain groups' drew the attention of the authorities to the booklet's contents, it was seized and banned in Germany. This is described by Schirmer below (my translation). I understand Schirmer was given the choice of a fine or prison and he chose the fine because, being over ninety, he did not relish spending his last few years behind bars, especially as he had already spent eleven years of his life in prison." CONTINUED


I would think that even the laziest and most gullible of individuals might wonder why no photos etc of the hundreds of homicidal gas chambers needed to kill millions of people exists.

Or...

Why the Allies needed to have a phony gas chamber build if there were any real ones to display?

I'm surprised that you didn't cite Moshe Peer's eyewitness testimony as "proof":


“Dozens & Dozens of the Most Outrageous Tales of the Holocaust”

EXCERPT:


• Moshe Peer's astounding Holy Shoah tale - Gassed six times by the Nazis and survived!! - Claims people were murdered in gas chambers at Bergen-Belsen.
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