The War on World War II: Why False Revisionism Must Be Defeated

[whitehall]

You can make a case for "false revisionism" when you defend using nuclear weapons on innocent Japanese civilians and you can pretend that the the Normandy Invasion was a success when the Allied troops were bogged down for the better part of six months of trying to get off the beach but it ain't necessarily fake.

 

[martybegan]

After 1917, there were approximately 1,500 pogroms against Jews in Russia, primarily during the Russian Civil War from 1918 to 1920, resulting in an estimated 35,000 to 250,000 deaths. These pogroms were widespread, particularly in Ukraine and southern Belarus.
Please note that this information may not be complete because of Russian secrecy in their actions within Russia.

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The Pogroms mostly stopped after the Bolsheviks won the civil war, because like all good communists, they wanted to control the application of violence for political ends.

 

[Deadstick]

The Pogroms mostly stopped after the Bolsheviks won the civil war, because like all good communists, they wanted to control the application of violence for political ends.

Well you are right about that, the pogroms were under the Monarchists or White Russians, the Bosheviks had several Jews in prominent positions.

 

[martybegan]

Well you are right about that, the pogroms were under the Monarchists or White Russians, the Bosheviks had several Jews in prominent positions.

And Stalin purged those alongside all the others if and when they became an issue for him.

 

[Zebra]

the rise of Hitler was the consquence of that terrible Versaiiles non.peace treaty.

and ww1 was everybody.s fault, not of Germany alone.
Serbia was the ignition

 

[Failzero]

The Anticolonialist Marxists hate The Greatest Generation .

 

[Ringo]

and Russia invaded Poland.


And he's absolutely right. Nazi Germany, as bad as it was, was not as evil and tyrannical as the Soviet Union,

The USSR did not “invade Poland.” The USSR sent the Red Army into Poland after the Polish government fled to Romania and Poland effectively ceased to exist. The Red Army took the lands of Western Belarus and Western Ukraine under its protection; most of these lands had been part of the Russian Empire and were seized by Poland after the 1917 revolution. As a result, for example, several hundred thousand Jews were saved from destruction by moving deep into the USSR.

Regarding your idiotic statement that “Nazi Germany, as bad as it was, was not as evil and tyrannical as the Soviet Union”.... I can't say anything except that you are a vile idiot and a scoundrel.
F you, nazi scumbag.

 

[rightwinger]

Patton was correct in his belief that after defeating Hitler, we should have kept fighting to defeat Stalin.
That is what caused his death.

Patton was a political moron
Why he had so much trouble getting promoted

The Allies were militarily expended by mid 1945. They were tired of war and millions had died.
An invasion of former ally USSR would have led to hundreds of thousands more casualties

The public would have never stood for it

 

[Grau]

The USSR did not “invade Poland.” The USSR sent the Red Army into Poland after the Polish government fled to Romania and Poland effectively ceased to exist. The Red Army took the lands of Western Belarus and Western Ukraine under its protection; most of these lands had been part of the Russian Empire and were seized by Poland after the 1917 revolution. As a result, for example, several hundred thousand Jews were saved from destruction by moving deep into the USSR.

Regarding your idiotic statement that “Nazi Germany, as bad as it was, was not as evil and tyrannical as the Soviet Union”.... I can't say anything except that you are a vile idiot and a scoundrel.
F you, nazi scumbag.

You clearly know nothing about the topic at hand other than what the OWI and post war propagandists have poured into your head.

Re:

I can't say anything except that you are a vile idiot and a scoundrel.
F you, nazi scumbag.

"When the debate is lost, slander becomes the tool of the loser"

- Socrates


The fact remains that:

"Who controls the past controls the future; who controls the present controls the past."
- George Orwell

 

[Unkotare]

...
What would history look like today had the war in Europe or the Pacific ended differently.
Would America be speaking German, or Japanese? ...

Why would we?

 

[Zebra]

The USSR did not “invade Poland.” The USSR sent the Red Army into Poland after the Polish government fled to Romania and Poland effectively ceased to exist. The Red Army took the lands of Western Belarus and Western Ukraine under its protection; most of these lands had been part of the Russian Empire and were seized by Poland after the 1917 revolution. As a result, for example, several hundred thousand Jews were saved from destruction by moving deep into the USSR.

Regarding your idiotic statement that “Nazi Germany, as bad as it was, was not as evil and tyrannical as the Soviet Union”.... I can't say anything except that you are a vile idiot and a scoundrel.
F you, nazi scumbag.

the USSR clearly invaded Poland, as was agreed by Hitler.

they did not protect Poland, but murdered many Polish officers

 

[Zebra]

You clearly know nothing about the topic at hand other than what the OWI and post war propagandists have poured into your head.

Re:


"When the debate is lost, slander becomes the tool of the loser"

- Socrates


The fact remains that:

"Who controls the past controls the future; who controls the present controls the past."
- George Orwell

True!

 

[Soupnazi630]

The USSR did not “invade Poland.” The USSR sent the Red Army into Poland after the Polish government fled to Romania and Poland effectively ceased to exist. The Red Army took the lands of Western Belarus and Western Ukraine under its protection; most of these lands had been part of the Russian Empire and were seized by Poland after the 1917 revolution. As a result, for example, several hundred thousand Jews were saved from destruction by moving deep into the USSR.

Regarding your idiotic statement that “Nazi Germany, as bad as it was, was not as evil and tyrannical as the Soviet Union”.... I can't say anything except that you are a vile idiot and a scoundrel.
F you, nazi scumbag.

The soviet union invaded poland

They were worse than the nazis

Denukng that fact is idiotic

 

[Deadstick]

The soviet union invaded poland

They were worse than the nazis

Denukng that fact is idiotic

Worse than the Nazis, that statement gives your Nazi credential away you disgusting article, next you will be telling us the SS liberated Warsaw.

 

[Soupnazi630]

Worse than the Nazis, that statement gives your Nazi credential away you disgusting article, next you will be telling us the SS liberated Warsaw.

No it doesn't

Clearly you are illiterate

Saying one is WORSE does not in any way shape or korm defend that other.

In this case it is historic fact, both were evil the communists worse. Sorry to burst your bubble boy but that is truth. Now be queit and learn something rather than posting accusatiions and smears

 

[Deadstick]

No it doesn't

Clearly you are illiterate

Saying one is WORSE does not in any way shape or korm defend that other.

In this case it is historic fact, both were evil the communists worse. Sorry to burst your bubble boy but that is truth. Now be queit and learn something rather than posting accusatiions and smears

Yes it does boy now YOU sit down asshole and learn something.

 

[Soupnazi630]

Yes it does boy now YOU sit down asshole and learn something.

No it does not youngster by definition it recognizes the evil of both

I am teaching you and you are desperately in need of it you ignorant shit for brains

 

[Deadstick]

No it does not youngster by definition it recognizes the evil of both

I am teaching you and you are desperately in need of it you ignorant shit for brains

You don't need to teach me anything Child, i am well aware of History and your deflection from the Nazis onto the soviets is just that a deflection, i didn't know the Soviets killed 6 million poles that died under Nazi occupation, or deployed Einsatzsgruppen all over the Soviet Union and Eastern Europe responsibe for murdering hundreds of thousands, and industrial murder camps like Auschwitz, Sobibor and Treblinka and Majdanek,if you can refute any of that go for it.

 

[Soupnazi630]

You don't need to teach me anything Child, i am well aware of History and your deflection from the Nazis onto the soviets is just that a deflection, i didn't know the Soviets killed 6 million poles that died under Nazi occupation, or deployed Einsatzsgruppen all over the Soviet Union and Eastern Europe responsibe for murdering hundreds of thousands, and industrial murder camps like Auschwitz, Sobibor and Treblinka and Majdanek,if you can refute any of that go for it.

No you are not.

You are consistently proven wrong onevery thread where history is discussed i.e. Mccarthy, vietnam etc.

It was statement of fact not deflection. The societs killed 20 millions of their own people under the holodomor and the gulag and with the secret police. Their secret police were all over the ussr and eastern europe, slaughtering and imprisoning people. Not to mention enslaving the entire population of their nation and other nations. Those are truths,
No one is refuting what the nazis did. the Soviets simply did the same thing and at a higher cost in terms of lives lost.

That is all factual and proven

yes I am teaching you boy you are massively ignorant

 

[Deadstick]

No you are not.

You are consistently proven wrong onevery thread where history is discussed i.e. Mccarthy, vietnam etc.

It was statement of fact not deflection. The societs killed 20 millions of their own people under the holodomor and the gulag and with the secret police. Their secret police were all over the ussr and eastern europe, slaughtering and imprisoning people. Not to mention enslaving the entire population of their nation and other nations. Those are truths,
No one is refuting what the nazis did. the Soviets simply did the same thing and at a higher cost in terms of lives lost.

That is all factual and proven

yes I am teaching you boy you are massively ignorant

You are teaching me nothing Child, your numbers are disputed for one thing such as the Holodomor you talk as if no Russians starved in the Holodomor, and the people who died under Stalins purges were not all over Eastern and Western Europe and many other Countries, unlike the Nazis who were on a Global rampage of war and murder, your deflection doesn't hold water,when ever did you highlight Nazi crimes in detail.?