The War on World War II: Why False Revisionism Must Be Defeated

[martybegan]

Russian, Canadian, American and British forces

They all did liberate Concentrations camps, but the Death Camps were all in Occupied Poland and other eastern areas.

The Western allies didn't get to find any of those due to simple geography.

 

[Soupnazi630]

Remind me who liberated the death camps including Auschwitz?

The USSR did

While running their own death camps as bad or worse.

Hypothetically if a serial killer were to assist in capturing a mass murderer it would not mean that the serial killer gets a pass for their crimes. They would still be held responsible for what they have done

Stalin does not get a pass for helping , or even doing most of the heavy lifting , to defeat Hitler.

He was just as much of a monster or worse than Hitler. In fact his efforts to destroy and defeat Hitler were as much about getting rid of the competition as it was defending the USSR

 

[otto105]

The USSR did

While running their own death camps as bad or worse.

Hypothetically if a serial killer were to assist in capturing a mass murderer it would not mean that the serial killer gets a pass for their crimes. They would still be held responsible for what they have done

Stalin does not get a pass for helping , or even doing most of the heavy lifting , to defeat Hitler.

He was just as much of a monster or worse than Hitler. In fact his efforts to destroy and defeat Hitler were as much about getting rid of the competition as it was defending the USSR

How many Russians did Hitler murder with his war machine?

Care to post the estimates from Hitlers fascist regime.

 

[Deadstick]

Russian, Canadian, American and British forces

The British and the US liberated Concentration camps like Belsen my Dad was one of the soldiers who entered that camp, the US liberated other Concentration camps, but the Soviets liberated the extermination camps that were all located in the East.

 

[Deadstick]

The USSR did

While running their own death camps as bad or worse.

Hypothetically if a serial killer were to assist in capturing a mass murderer it would not mean that the serial killer gets a pass for their crimes. They would still be held responsible for what they have done

Stalin does not get a pass for helping , or even doing most of the heavy lifting , to defeat Hitler.

He was just as much of a monster or worse than Hitler. In fact his efforts to destroy and defeat Hitler were as much about getting rid of the competition as it was defending the USSR

This thread is about rewriting WW2 history, not the character of Stalin and Hitler, and as far as i know there were no Gas chambers in Soviet Gulags.

 

[otto105]

This thread is about rewriting WW2 history, not the character of Stalin and Hitler, and as far as i know there were no Gas chambers in Soviet Gulags.

Has any posted the estimated number of Russians killed by the fascist NAZI regime yet?

 

[Grau]

This thread is about rewriting WW2 history, not the character of Stalin and Hitler, and as far as i know there were no Gas chambers in Soviet Gulags.

There were no homicidal, steam, gas or electrocution chambers in any of the German work camps either.

Among the heavily censored facts about WW 2 is that all intercepted radio transmissions captured by the British report nothing about "gassings".

According to German radio transmissions and the testimony of Arno Meyer, most deaths at Auschwitz etc were from disease.

Please read more and watch less Western MSM hogwash.




"The Enemy Is Listening!"
https://www.inconvenienthistory.com/8/1/4028

EXCERPT "Oddly, only a very few Holocaust historians were interested in the information on the concentration camps. The reason for this astonishing lack of interest is presumably due to the following remark by author Hinsley:

The messages from Auschwitz, the largest camp, with 20,000 inmates,[4] mention disease as the chief cause of death, but also include references to executions by hanging and shooting. The decoded messages contain no references to gassings.

To sum up, the following facts may be considered established: The messages deciphered at Bletchley Park undoubtedly constitute one of the most reliable sources on the course of events during the Second World War.

They provide information on undertakings of the German army, navy, and air force. They provide an insight into the events occurring behind the Russian front and the conditions in the concentration camps.

Since the reports from Auschwitz contain no information on mass killings, the question of whether the British Intelligence Service "knew about the Holocaust," can be answered with a single word: "No!. CONTINUED

 

[Soupnazi630]

This thread is about rewriting WW2 history, not the character of Stalin and Hitler, and as far as i know there were no Gas chambers in Soviet Gulags.

Just enforced starvation.

The method is irrelevant

 

[Soupnazi630]

How many Russians did Hitler murder with his war machine?

Care to post the estimates from Hitlers fascist regime.

Murder is murder it does not matter who does it

 

[Deadstick]

Has any posted the estimated number of Russians killed by the fascist NAZI regime yet?

Well for some people they don't matter, anywhere between 22 and 27 million.

 

[Soupnazi630]

Well for some people they don't matter, anywhere between 22 and 27 million.

How many were needlessly murdered by staling to defeat Hitler?

 

[Deadstick]

How many were needlessly murdered by staling to defeat Hitler?

Not with you?

 

[Soupnazi630]

Not with you?

Stalin wasted lives drafting and shipping millions into the fight often with no traning or guns.

His tactic was to throw warm bodies in front of machine gun fire hoping that the nazis would run out of bullets before he ran out of bodies

how was he any better?

 

[Deadstick]

Stalin wasted lives drafting and shipping millions into the fight often with no traning or guns.

His tactic was to throw warm bodies in front of machine gun fire hoping that the nazis would run out of bullets before he ran out of bodies

how was he any better?

I am not defending Stalins tactics at the start of the war but times were desperate and the Nazis had to be stopped at any cost, they got into the suburbs of Moscow before they were stopped it wasn't a game, and what the hell are you on about how was he any better than the Nazi savages who invaded ?

 

[Soupnazi630]

I am not defending Stalins tactics at the start of the war but times were desperate and the Nazis had to be stopped at any cost, they got into the suburbs of Moscow before they were stopped it wasn't a game, and what the hell are you on about how was he any better than the Nazi savages who invaded ?

Because he was no better

He was as much a monster or worse than hitler which is fact you keep living in denial of

 

[Unkotare]

Your a simple ******* liar

Analyzing WWII and recognizing the evils of the USSR is not pro nazi

Some people just cannot study or discuss history because they cling to whatever narrative they have long lived with as if it were an arm or a leg.

 

[mikegriffith1]

If the Nazis kept winning that 6M number would be closer to 20M by the time they were finished.

That's debatable. If England and France had not declared war on Germany over Poland and had remained neutral, it is quite possible, if not probable, that Hitler would have left them alone and that all the Jews in Western Europe would have been spared the Holocaust.

Additionally, if FDR and Churchill had not refused to help the German resistance unless they agreed to unconditional surrender, the resistance may well have succeeded in removing Hitler, deposing the Nazis, and ending the war in 1943, which would have saved at least 1 million Jewish lives.

Also you have to add in the Poles and other Slavs killed, and the smaller yet still there numbers of those killed in western europe.

The Soviet death toll is a lot more than the 20 million Russians the Soviet thugs killed to maintain their grip on power. Add all the Poles, Hungarians, Romanians, and Germans the Soviets killed.

 

[martybegan]

That's debatable. If England and France had not declared war on Germany over Poland and had remained neutral, it is quite possible, if not probable, that Hitler would have left them alone and that all the Jews in Western Europe would have been spared the Holocaust.

Additionally, if FDR and Churchill had not refused to help the German resistance unless they agreed to unconditional surrender, the resistance may well have succeeded in removing Hitler, deposing the Nazis, and ending the war in 1943, which would have saved at least 1 million Jewish lives.



The Soviet death toll is a lot more than the 20 million Russians the Soviet thugs killed to maintain their grip on power. Add all the Poles, Hungarians, Romanians, and Germans the Soviets killed.

Most of the Jews were in Eastern Europe, and even if Hitler didn't invade Russia, there would have been millions in the Balkans.

 

[Doc7505]

Rewriting history in most cases is down to political expediency at any given time, one only needs to look at the war between Russia and Ukraine.

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"To the victor belong the spoils".
Means that the winner of a conflict receives the rewards, which can include power and influence over narratives, including historical facts. However, altering historical facts is often viewed as controversial and can lead to debates about truth and integrity in history.
We see that at almost every point in history.
What would history look like today had the war in Europe or the Pacific ended differently.
Would America be speaking German, or Japanese? Would England be speaking German and goose stepping?

 

[Doc7505]

Most of the Jews were in Eastern Europe, and even if Hitler didn't invade Russia, there would have been millions in the Balkans.

After 1917, there were approximately 1,500 pogroms against Jews in Russia, primarily during the Russian Civil War from 1918 to 1920, resulting in an estimated 35,000 to 250,000 deaths. These pogroms were widespread, particularly in Ukraine and southern Belarus.
Please note that this information may not be complete because of Russian secrecy in their actions within Russia.

20 years before the Holocaust, pogroms killed 100,000 Jews – then were forgotten

'In the Midst of Civilized Europe' by Jeffrey Veidlinger revisits the brutal violence in 1918-1921 that portended a genocide of Europe's Jews, and was soon overshadowed by it

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