The US was founded on the principle that "all men are created equal"...yet the nation began with the genocide & land theft of Native American Men

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Humans have acted inhumanely throughout history. To say that stating this fact means one is defending abuses that took place in the "New World" is absurd.
Everyone had slaves at some time. Everyone conquered the land they lived on at some time. It will only serve to continue bitterness and violence to do anything other than learn our lessons, forgive ourselves and each other, and not repeat the mistakes.
Those who wish to prolong the process do so for nefarious purposes.
Oh boy. here we go with the everybody in history has had slaves garbage. We're 160 years past slavery and the issue is the impact of white racism since slavery that has negatively impacted people of color now. Things like, black codes, vagrancy laws, contract labor, share cropping, the company store, racial massacres by whites, racist public policy, restrictive covenants, redlining, contract selling, racist housing policy, and modern or aversive racism. Slavery is long been out of the picture. Those who keep wanting to limit this to a discussion of slavery are the ones doing so for nefarious purposes.
 

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You also forgot slavery. The US is a nation born in laziness, hypocrisy and cognitive dissonance.
So what are you saying?....America is willfully confused and lazy because they in mass disagree with you?....welcome to a democracy and freedom of thought....maybe its you that is intellectually lazy....
I'm saying whites were lazy and couldn't do their own work.

I'm saying whites are a genocidal inbred race.

I'm also saying whites are natural born thieves.

and finally I am saying they have short and long term memory loss when it comes to racial injustice.
aw gee, that isn't racist at all.......

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When this country began, our leaders worked with the tribes to maintain peace and develop trade with them. Most did and have slowly assimilated into the larger culture, though some remnants still remain and exist as tribal reservation east of the Mississippi.

the ones that wanted to wage war were either sent west or killed in self defense.
BS.
 

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You also forgot slavery. The US is a nation born in laziness, hypocrisy and cognitive dissonance.
So what are you saying?....America is willfully confused and lazy because they in mass disagree with you?....welcome to a democracy and freedom of thought....maybe its you that is intellectually lazy....
I'm saying whites were lazy and couldn't do their own work.

I'm saying whites are a genocidal inbred race.

I'm also saying whites are natural born thieves.

and finally I am saying they have short and long term memory loss when it comes to racial injustice.
aw gee, that isn't racist at all.......

~S~
Documented historical actions and behavior support most of what he has said. If whites had not done the things they have done, you could call this racist, but there is a documented behavior pattern from whites that lead people to make this kind of conclusion. Now we know all whites have not participated in such behavior but this is the bed whites have created for themselves by what they have done to others. So always calling someone a racist for pointing it out makes no sense.
 

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i speak the truth, and y'all cant handle it!
All the other nations in all the world are so glad America came along. It absolves them somehow of all the land they've stolen, all the slaves they've nabbed, all the people they've killed.

Somehow. No one knows how, if you think about it rationally. But somehow.
No it does not Sue. And we are starting to pay the penalty for the non repentant attitudes of people like you. COVID-19 is a plague and America is getting the worst of it. You and others laughed when I said you will pay what you owe or you will lose what you got. Look around Sue, because that's what's happening now.
I didn't know you were specially appointed to be God's mouthpiece. That's amazing.
 

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i speak the truth, and y'all cant handle it!
All the other nations in all the world are so glad America came along. It absolves them somehow of all the land they've stolen, all the slaves they've nabbed, all the people they've killed.

Somehow. No one knows how, if you think about it rationally. But somehow.
No it does not Sue. And we are starting to pay the penalty for the non repentant attitudes of people like you. COVID-19 is a plague and America is getting the worst of it. You and others laughed when I said you will pay what you owe or you will lose what you got. Look around Sue, because that's what's happening now.
I didn't know you were specially appointed to be God's mouthpiece. That's amazing.
I'm not, but you aren't either. So look around at what's happening because this is a penalty upon this nation.
 

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Slavery is long been out of the picture

~S~
And here comes the silly argument about how slavery is still going on when this discussion is about the founding of America.
Just because you want to dismiss valid arguments as silly does not make them actually silly.

You also want to state that we are invoking God's wrath for past slavery, but not for the ongoing sin of, say, abortion. Or homosexuality. Or greed, or fornication, or the many other sins God doesn't like.

So really, you appointed yourself God's mouthpiece, but you're not really. Dangerous, but you do you.
 

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i speak the truth, and y'all cant handle it!
All the other nations in all the world are so glad America came along. It absolves them somehow of all the land they've stolen, all the slaves they've nabbed, all the people they've killed.

Somehow. No one knows how, if you think about it rationally. But somehow.
No it does not Sue. And we are starting to pay the penalty for the non repentant attitudes of people like you. COVID-19 is a plague and America is getting the worst of it. You and others laughed when I said you will pay what you owe or you will lose what you got. Look around Sue, because that's what's happening now.
I didn't know you were specially appointed to be God's mouthpiece. That's amazing.
I'm not, but you aren't either. So look around at what's happening because this is a penalty upon this nation.
Oh no doubt about that. Jesus is coming back. But note well that *I* am not saying we are being punished for MY "pet sin". YOU did. You said it outright.
 

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Whites actually thought some of the relatively civilized tribes of Asian Americans (Folks who migrated over the Alaska land bridge from Asia thousands of years prior and who formed tribes that savagely killed each other for savage reasons) were "wild White people." When Harvard University was established one of the first things they did was try educate some savages (American Indians). Apparently one or two actually graduated, the first case of outcome based education. :p As far as Negroes, the greatest thing to ever happen to them was importation to the states. They were taught to do basic farm tasks and basic manners. Many became civilized, and highly respectable, some (very few) even genius level. So much so when Negroes were encouraged to go back to Africa and set up Liberia in a civilized manner, they were exterminated by savage tribes native to Africa with the survivors being savagely enslaved by local Negroes.
 

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i speak the truth, and y'all cant handle it!
All the other nations in all the world are so glad America came along. It absolves them somehow of all the land they've stolen, all the slaves they've nabbed, all the people they've killed.

Somehow. No one knows how, if you think about it rationally. But somehow.
No it does not Sue. And we are starting to pay the penalty for the non repentant attitudes of people like you. COVID-19 is a plague and America is getting the worst of it. You and others laughed when I said you will pay what you owe or you will lose what you got. Look around Sue, because that's what's happening now.
if this country goes under then you're screwed too pal .... as a matter of fact the inner cities will be the worst places to try to survive .
 
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Slavery is long been out of the picture

~S~
And here comes the silly argument about how slavery is still going on when this discussion is about the founding of America.
Just because you want to dismiss valid arguments as silly does not make them actually silly.

You also want to state that we are invoking God's wrath for past slavery, but not for the ongoing sin of, say, abortion. Or homosexuality. Or greed, or fornication, or the many other sins God doesn't like.

So really, you appointed yourself God's mouthpiece, but you're not really. Dangerous, but you do you.
I am not saying that. I said the unrepentent nature of people like you. America has broken every single one of the commandments. You can't decide that abortion is so important to god, but the decide that war is necessary. You don't get to make a big stink out of abortion then denigrate everyone who wants guns to be controlled or banned. You don't get to bark about abortion then support capital punishment or eliminate programs that help the fetus live after they get outside the womb. You're a hypocrite. You don't get to sit in church talking about love your fellow man and then hate gay people. You don't get to run your mouth about socialism then talk about how great capitalism is, when capitalism by its own definition, enables greed and coveting what is not yours.

So like I said, America is paying the price for unrepentant people such as you. The fact slavery existed here and you have bragged about refusing to do what was right by the slaves is just part of the punishment.

I have not appointed myself anything pharisee. I am just stating what's going on. You are the danger and those like you, because you worship with a warped view of god.
 

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i speak the truth, and y'all cant handle it!
All the other nations in all the world are so glad America came along. It absolves them somehow of all the land they've stolen, all the slaves they've nabbed, all the people they've killed.

Somehow. No one knows how, if you think about it rationally. But somehow.
No it does not Sue. And we are starting to pay the penalty for the non repentant attitudes of people like you. COVID-19 is a plague and America is getting the worst of it. You and others laughed when I said you will pay what you owe or you will lose what you got. Look around Sue, because that's what's happening now.
I didn't know you were specially appointed to be God's mouthpiece. That's amazing.
I'm not, but you aren't either. So look around at what's happening because this is a penalty upon this nation.
Oh no doubt about that. Jesus is coming back. But note well that *I* am not saying we are being punished for MY "pet sin". YOU did. You said it outright.
I didn't say that. Read the words again. I said we are paying for the non repentant attitudes of people like you. And you keep showing how non repentant you are by lying as you have done.
 

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Slavery is long been out of the picture

~S~
And here comes the silly argument about how slavery is still going on when this discussion is about the founding of America.
Just because you want to dismiss valid arguments as silly does not make them actually silly.

You also want to state that we are invoking God's wrath for past slavery, but not for the ongoing sin of, say, abortion. Or homosexuality. Or greed, or fornication, or the many other sins God doesn't like.

So really, you appointed yourself God's mouthpiece, but you're not really. Dangerous, but you do you.
I am not saying that. I said the unrepentent nature of people like you. America has broken every single one of the commandments. You can't decide that abortion is so important to god, but the decide that war is necessary. You don't get to make a big stink out of abortion then denigrate everyone who wants guns to be controlled or banned. You don't get to bark about abortion then support capital punishment or eliminate programs that help the fetus live after they get outside the womb. You're a hypocrite. You don't get to sit in church talking about love your fellow man and then hate gay people. You don't get to run your mouth about socialism then talk about how great capitalism is, when capitalism by its own definition, enables greed and coveting what is not yours.

So like I said, America is paying the price for unrepentant people such as you. The fact slavery existed here and you have bragged about refusing to do what was right by the slaves is just part of the punishment.

I have not appointed myself anything pharisee. I am just stating what's going on. You are the danger and those like you, because you worship with a warped view of god.
This entire post is hilarious. Ironically hilarious
 

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Humans have acted inhumanely throughout history. To say that stating this fact means one is defending abuses that took place in the "New World" is absurd.
Everyone had slaves at some time. Everyone conquered the land they lived on at some time. It will only serve to continue bitterness and violence to do anything other than learn our lessons, forgive ourselves and each other, and not repeat the mistakes.
Those who wish to prolong the process do so for nefarious purposes.
Oh boy. here we go with the everybody in history has had slaves garbage. We're 160 years past slavery and the issue is the impact of white racism since slavery that has negatively impacted people of color now. Things like, black codes, vagrancy laws, contract labor, share cropping, the company store, racial massacres by whites, racist public policy, restrictive covenants, redlining, contract selling, racist housing policy, and modern or aversive racism. Slavery is long been out of the picture. Those who keep wanting to limit this to a discussion of slavery are the ones doing so for nefarious purposes.
You might want to reread his post, because you clearly misrepresented it.
 

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