The Untold Story of Eisenhower's Death Camps

[Sawbriars]

I am not talking about things that occurred in Colonial America, nor things that occurred in the Antebellum South.

I am talking about events at the close of WWII

Forced labor of Germans after World War II - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[longknife]

I am not talking about things that occurred in Colonial America, nor things that occurred in the Antebellum South.

I am talking about events at the close of WWII

Forced labor of Germans after World War II - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

So, they were forced to clean up the mess they made. What's so horrible about that?

Oh yeah - I completely ignored the atrocities conducted under Russian control.

 

[oldfart]

I am not talking about things that occurred in Colonial America, nor things that occurred in the Antebellum South.

I am talking about events at the close of WWII

Forced labor of Germans after World War II - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

So, they were forced to clean up the mess they made. What's so horrible about that?

Oh yeah - I completely ignored the atrocities conducted under Russian control.

You don't see any problem with a program of intentional starvation of a civilian population by the governments of the United States, the United Kingdom, and France?

 

[JakeStarkey]

[.....but the crimes of Stalin and Mao tse tung ... are ignored and probably even unknown to the majority of posters who unfortunately are not well versed in history.

Lay off the meth, idiot. The atrocities for which stalin and mao are responsible are very, very well known. Just because you never heard of them before last week doesn't mean everyone is as ignorant as you.

Apparantly some in Obama's administration are>>>>>>>Second Obama Administration Official Praises Chairman Mao - Video Dailymotion

And I imagine we still have some who cheer the KKK and the Citizens Councils.

Fools are fools.

 

[Sallow]

What is this shit? This screed is written to inflame passions and horror but does link to a damn bit of evidence or even list the author. Rubber room material if I ever saw it. Our treament of POWs was never as awful as what the Nazis did to our soldiers, not even close.

German prisoners were treated very well by the US in most cases.

Heck..some were shipped to America.

 

[Sallow]

Many had it sweet!

German prisoners of war in the United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[freedombecki]

What a crock this thread is. Human beings die within a week of cessation of food and water. The author intimates extremes, then goes on to say this went on for weeks and months with no food. Impossible.

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[Sawbriars]

What a crock this thread is. Human beings die within a week of cessation of food and water. The author intimates extremes, then goes on to say this went on for weeks and months with no food. Impossible.

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Much evidence has been presented. You simply choose to ignore it.

Here is some more>>>HOW ALLIES TREATED GERMAN POWs by Michael Walsh

None is so blind as he who refuses to see.

 

[oldfart]

What a crock this thread is. Human beings die within a week of cessation of food and water. The author intimates extremes, then goes on to say this went on for weeks and months with no food. Impossible.

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Read my post #49 upthread and tell me which facts you disagree with. Then give me a citation to a historian who says those events did not happen. The only scholarly debate is over how many Germans starved to death as a result of American, British, and French occupation policy, not that it did not happen.

 

[Urbanguerrilla]

The LA Times and the Rosenberg Diary
February 13, 2014 at 10:34pm
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12 February 2014

I am writing to comment on a February 6th article by Richard Simon, "The Search for the Lost Nazi diary, regarding the recovery of the diary of Alfred Rosenberg." (The hunt for the lost Nazi diary - latimes.com)

The pages of the Rosenberg diary have been posted on the United States Holocaust Museum's webpage. One can read and translate the document for oneself. I did this and found that the article was incorrectly translated regarding the important diary entries of September 12, 1941.

The article read: "On Sept. 12, 1941, he [Rosenberg] wrote that Germany had obtained reports indicating that Soviet leader Josef Stalin planned to send 400,000 captured Germans to Siberia. Rosenberg equated the move with murder, adding, 'All of us felt the hatred against Moscow swell up again.'" If Stalin carried out the plan, he wrote, "Germany will punish the Jews of Central Europe for this." This reading of Rosenberg implies that Rosenberg was fulminating against Jews and planning vengeance against them. That is a false reading, and quite misleading. Here is my translation:

"As the reports came in that Stalin now was also going to expel the remaining 400,000 Volga Germans to Siberia, that is, to murder them, the hatred of Moscow was immediately reawakened in all of us. I issued advice to take a very strong position in this matter, and sent the finished product to the Führer, who further strengthened it. Yesterday I developed a proposal to broadcast to Russia, England and the USA that if this slaughter is in fact carried out, Germany will make the Jews of Central Europe pay for it. This with total rectitude, in that none other than the Jew Schertok is said to have declared at a conference on Palestine that the Jews derived great advantage from the alliance between Moscow - London - Washington, that they worked for it unceasingly."

Indeed, Rosenberg was horrified at Stalin's plans to deport hundreds of thousands of Volga Germans (where did "captured Germans" come from? It appears to be an invention) but he was furious at "Moscow," not at Central European Jews. He proposed a possible way of saving the Volga Germans: A radio address broadcast to Russia, England, and the United States based on the hope that Jewish groups would influence Moscow not to deport the Volga Germans. It was the recent boasts of Schertok [Moshe Shertok] of great Jewish influence on "Moskau - London - Washington" that seemed to inspire the plan.

Rosenberg even goes on to discuss the history of anti-German pogroms by the Russians. Thus, a correct reading of the Diary does not cast Rosenberg as plotting vengeance or punishment against Central European Jews, nor blaming them for the plight of the Volga Germans. He is grasping at straws to try prevent a massacre of the Volga Germans. This is a significantly different motive than claimed in the article.

Because the Diary gives us a rare insight into the thinking of the leaders of the Third Reich in September 1941, a formative period in the still unclear development of German policies toward Central European Jews, it is imperative that translations be accurate. The diary entry itself can be seen at Alfred Rosenberg Diary - United States Holocaust Memorial Museum ; page 607. Google or Yahoo translation sites provide a pretty good understanding for English speakers. We should thank the United States Holocaust Memorial Museum for posting original documents on line.

Yours for honest, accurate research,

David Merlin
Committee for Open Debate on the Holocaust
PO Box 439016
San Ysidro, California

 

[MaryL]

Yahh...UMM. No. You know Her Hitler targeted Dutch folks with death with the last name of...Eisenhower? That is the untold story. Do you care? Please.

 

[Sawbriars]

Yahh...UMM. No. You know Her Hitler targeted Dutch folks with death with the last name of...Eisenhower? That is the untold story. Do you care? Please.

Dutch People with the last name of Eisenhower? Eisenhower is a german name.