Zone1 The unconditional covenant God made with the Jews (AKA Israelites/Hebrews including converts, excluding Arabs)

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You’re quite careless with your words aren’t you?

I don't believe so. Feel free to refute them. Or you could just call me anti-Semitic instead.

 

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You have no idea what it means to be among the "chosen". Most Jews don't either. There is a huge difference between the "chosen people" and the "master race". Most of you don't understand the difference

I know better than you do what it means. And in fact, they are violating their chosenness as we speak.

 

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In order to be an American citizen, you either have to be born American or take a test to become an American.

Same thing in Judaism. Either you are born "Jewish" (based on Jewish law) or you take a test and convert. This isn't tough.

 

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No. That's precisely what it is not. It is an interpretation of things presented as a statement of fact, which it isn't.

Google says you are wrong.

But feel free to explain what you believe Amos, Hosea, Isaiah, and Jeremiah were saying about Israel's predicament during the volatile period from the 8th to 6th centuries B.C., a time when Israel and Judah were threatened by superpowers like Assyria, Babylon, Egypt, and Syria. [1]

 

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Google says you are wrong.

But feel free to explain what you believe Amos, Hosea, Isaiah, and Jeremiah were saying about Israel's predicament during the volatile period from the 8th to 6th centuries B.C., a time when Israel and Judah were threatened by superpowers like Assyria, Babylon, Egypt, and Syria. [1]

"Google says"? First of all, you are mistaking a search engine (GIGO) with a thinking machine. Second, no, "Google" doesn't say that. Google quoted websites which opined that.

Note that you ask me to "explain what I believe." That's exactly what the article you cited did. It stated a belief. No proof. Just a belief that in the author's eyes, this was the reason that prophets said what they said.

That's not a claim of fact but of interpretation and opinion.

 

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ding, I'll tell ya right now, that anti-Jew stuff is against God and evil.

I'm not anti-Jew. I am arguing what Israel is doing is not in Israel's long term interest. They have forgotten their way. They have become what they hate. What I am arguing is literally no different than what their prophets argued.

 

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Repeating the same BS over and over isn't going to make it true, ding.

Did you just call the bible BS?

"From the eighth to the sixth centuries B. C., during which Israel and Judah tottered before the aggressive power of Syria, Assyria, Egypt, and Babylon, the prophets found meaning in their predicament by seeing it as God's way of underscoring the demand for righteousness. God was using Israel's enemies against her. The experience of defeat and exile was teaching the Jews the true worth of freedom. Another lesson was that those who remain faithful in adversity will be vindicated. Stated abstractly, the deepest meaning the Jews found in their Exile was the meaning of vicarious suffering: meaning that enters lives that are willing to endure pain that others might be spared it. "the Lord has laid on him the iniquity of us all.""

This ^^^^ accurately summarizes the theological interpretation held by the Hebrew prophets during the volatile period from the 8th to 6th centuries B.C., a time when Israel and Judah were threatened by superpowers like Assyria, Babylon, Egypt, and Syria. [1]

Rather than viewing the military, economic, and social crises solely as political failures, prophets such as Amos, Hosea, Isaiah, and Jeremiah interpreted these events as divine judgment and a call to return to covenant faithfulness. [1, 2, 3]

Contextualizing the Prophetic Message

• A "Demand for Righteousness": The prophets argued that God required social justice, ethical behavior, and exclusive worship, which the kingdoms of Israel and Judah had largely abandoned. [1, 2, 3, 4, 5]
• Enemies as God's Tools: The prophets viewed foreign empires like Assyria and Babylon not just as enemies, but as instruments in God's hands to discipline His people. [1, 2]
• The Meaning of Suffering: In the face of impending exile, the prophets found meaning in their predicament by interpreting it as a necessary process of purification, teaching the true worth of freedom and faith. [1]

Key Developments (8th–6th Centuries B.C.)

• 8th Century B.C.: The Assyrian Empire rises, threatening the Levant, and ultimately destroying the Northern Kingdom of Israel (Samaria) in 722 B.C.. [1, 2, 3, 4, 5]
• 7th–6th Century B.C.: The Babylonian Empire defeats Assyria, and under Nebuchadnezzar, conquers Judah and destroys Jerusalem and the Temple in 586 B.C., initiating the Babylonian Captivity. [1, 2, 3, 4, 5]

The prophets provided a profound interpretation of these events, focusing on moral accountability rather than just political power.

 

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^None of those sources are The Bible.

It accurately summarizes what Amos, Hosea, Isaiah, and Jeremiah wrote. Do you need for me to quote chapter and verse?

 

[Carl in Michigan]

There’s no RACE at all. Jews are not a separate race.

Please stop telling Jews what it means to be a Jew. I think we know better than a Christian would.

Here you go again. If you don't want to hear my opinion stop responding to me. I WILL tell you what the Bible says.

Jew is JUDAH Do you know who Judah was? I Am JOSEPH Do you know who Joseph was?

First time the word Jew Appears in the Bible:

At that time Rezin king of Syria recovered Elath to Syria, and drove the Jews from Elath: and the Syrians came to Elath, and dwelt there unto this day -- 2 Kings 16:6

Other translations call the THE CHILDREN OF JUDAH.

You understand your RELIGION. You clearly don't know the Scriptures

 

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Ding’s showing a side of him l never knew existed. Using terms like goy and other stuff.

He must have kept it hidden for years.

Good Lord, you guys will stop at nothing. Have you no shame?

 

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Here's some things about Israel from The Bible and not what some dude at a Bible College says:

"And I will make of thee a great nation, and I will bless thee, and make thy name great; and thou shalt be a blessing:

And I will bless them that bless thee, and curse him that curseth thee: and in thee shall all families of the earth be blessed."

Bible Gateway passage: Genesis 12:2-3 - King James Version

And I will make of thee a great nation, and I will bless thee, and make thy name great; and thou shalt be a blessing: And I will bless them that bless thee, and curse him that curseth thee: and in thee shall all families of the earth be blessed.

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"For thou art an holy people unto the Lord thy God: the Lord thy God hath chosen thee to be a special people unto himself, above all people that are upon the face of the earth."

Bible Gateway passage: Deuteronomy 7:6 - King James Version

For thou art an holy people unto the LORD thy God: the LORD thy God hath chosen thee to be a special people unto himself, above all people that are upon the face of the earth.

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All of Psalm 105

Bible Gateway passage: Psalm 105 - King James Version

O give thanks unto the LORD; call upon his name: make known his deeds among the people. Sing unto him, sing psalms unto him: talk ye of all his wondrous works. Glory ye in his holy name: let the heart of them rejoice that seek the LORD. Seek the LORD, and his strength: seek his face evermore...

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Jeremiah 31

Bible Gateway passage: Jeremiah 31 - King James Version

At the same time, saith the LORD, will I be the God of all the families of Israel, and they shall be my people. Thus saith the LORD, The people which were left of the sword found grace in the wilderness; even Israel, when I went to cause him to rest. The LORD hath appeared of old unto me...

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Romans 11 (This one is really germaine to Christianity vs. Judaism)

Bible Gateway passage: Romans 11 - King James Version

I say then, Hath God cast away his people? God forbid. For I also am an Israelite, of the seed of Abraham, of the tribe of Benjamin. God hath not cast away his people which he foreknew. Wot ye not what the scripture saith of Elias? how he maketh intercession to God against Israel saying, Lord...

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"In the same day the Lord made a covenant with Abram, saying, Unto thy seed have I given this land, from the river of Egypt unto the great river, the river Euphrates:"

Bible Gateway passage: Genesis 15 - King James Version

After these things the word of the LORD came unto Abram in a vision, saying, Fear not, Abram: I am thy shield, and thy exceeding great reward. And Abram said, LORD God, what wilt thou give me, seeing I go childless, and the steward of my house is this Eliezer of Damascus? And Abram said, Behold...

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Do I have Isaiah 11? Need that one.

Bible Gateway passage: Isaiah 11 - King James Version

And there shall come forth a rod out of the stem of Jesse, and a Branch shall grow out of his roots: And the spirit of the LORD shall rest upon him, the spirit of wisdom and understanding, the spirit of counsel and might, the spirit of knowledge and of the fear of the LORD; And shall make him of...

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There's more, plenty more. From The Bible and not some guy at a "Bible College", ding .

When I get back from my trip, I'm going to quote chapter and verse about what Amos, Hosea, Isaiah, and Jeremiah wrote so you can argue the bible is invalid. I'll probably take you into the Bull Ring for a good 1v1 thrashing.

 

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That worthless abandoned land belonged to the British. They offered it to the Jews.
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There is no one there, ding. No one gave a shit about that land until it was given to the Jews. Samuel Clemens saw one Nomad wandering through.

Their borders haven't expanded since they won Jerusalem back after Egypt attacked them. And, I bet God had something to do with that.
They are not exterminating Palestinians. They are getting rid of the terrorist element the Palestinians support. The Palestinians would gladly kill their own child with a suicide bomb if it takes out a Jew or two.
Does Jesus approve? No. Is He going to fight for Israel? Yes. Here is the Lion of the Tribe of Judah.
See if His actions match your perception of Him:

• Psalm 2:9 - "You shall break them with a rod of iron; you shall dash them in pieces like a potter's vessel."
• Isaiah 63:4 - "For the day of vengeance is in my heart, and the year of my redeemed has come."
• Zechariah 14:3 - "Then the Lord will go out and fight as when he fights on a day of battle."
• Matthew 25:31-32 - "When the Son of Man comes in his glory, he will separate the nations as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats."
• Revelation 19:15 - "From his mouth comes a sharp sword with which to strike down the nations, and he will rule them with a rod of iron."
• Joel 3:12 - "Let the nations stir themselves up and come up to the Valley of Jehoshaphat, for there I will sit to judge all the surrounding nations.

The decision wasn't up to Egypt, or Syria or the others. It was the property of Great Britain.

God has indeed given that order before. And when the Jews failed to do that they ended up with Haman.
Who do you see Jesus backing? Who is He coming back to judge and rule over with an iron rod?


To prevent the Jews from being wiped off the face of the earth. Do you have a grasp of Revelation? It explains exactly what Christ is going to do. For whom and against whom.
How many battles was God involved in in the Old Testament? You'll have to ask Him why when you see Him.

Everyone thinks God is on their side. Truth is, God tells us what side He is on. That's who we need to listen to. God has laid claim to Israel. And He aims to keep it. Let Him...

I'm not sure how this relates to Israel taking the low road instead of the road of righteousness. Maybe trust God instead?

 

[Lisa558]

Here you go again. If you don't want to hear my opinion stop responding to me. I WILL tell you what the Bible says.

Jew is JUDAH Do you know who Judah was? I Am JOSEPH Do you know who Joseph was?

First time the word Jew Appears in the Bible:

At that time Rezin king of Syria recovered Elath to Syria, and drove the Jews from Elath: and the Syrians came to Elath, and dwelt there unto this day -- 2 Kings 16:6

Other translations call the THE CHILDREN OF JUDAH.

You understand your RELIGION. You clearly don't know the Scriptures

So a CHRISTIAN tells a Jew what the Hebrew Bible says?

Thank you, oh wise one.

 

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"Google says"? First of all, you are mistaking a search engine (GIGO) with a thinking machine. Second, no, "Google" doesn't say that. Google quoted websites which opined that.

Note that you ask me to "explain what I believe." That's exactly what the article you cited did. It stated a belief. No proof. Just a belief that in the author's eyes, this was the reason that prophets said what they said.

That's not a claim of fact but of interpretation and opinion.

Feel free to explain what you believe Amos, Hosea, Isaiah, and Jeremiah were saying about Israel's predicament during the volatile period from the 8th to 6th centuries B.C., a time when Israel and Judah were threatened by superpowers like Assyria, Babylon, Egypt, and Syria. [1]

 

[Hafar1014]

I'm not sure how this relates to Israel taking the low road instead of the road of righteousness. Maybe trust God instead?

Israel is defending itself against the most violent religious fanatics in history. Doing a good jog I might add

 

[luiza]

And when doesn’t it? Aren’t Jews allowed to defend themselves against Muslims who want to destroy them all?

What would you do faced with an insane Jewish people who want to destroy everybody else before they welcome back their Space Alien God ?

Incidentally, why did so many of your Nazi Jews turn against their fellow Jews ?
Very strange behaviour .

Never did underestand that .

 

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So a CHRISTIAN tells a Jew what the Hebrew Bible says?

Thank you, oh wise one.

Read Amos, Hosea, Isaiah, and Jeremiah and tell me what you believe they were saying.

 

[Hafar1014]

So a CHRISTIAN tells a Jew what the Hebrew Bible says?

Thank you, oh wise one.

Isnt that funny

 

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Israel is defending itself against the most violent religious fanatics in history. Doing a good jog I might add

And they have chosen to take the low road instead of being righteous and trusting God.

Read Amos, Hosea, Isaiah, and Jeremiah and tell me what you believe they were saying.

 

[Hafar1014]

What would you do faced with an insane Jewish people who want to destroy everybody else before they welcome back their Space Alien God ?

Incidentally, why did so many of your Nazi Jews turn against their fellow Jews ?
Very strange behaviour .

Never did underestand that .

There is a lot you dont understand which is why you dont matter