The Truth about Mormons

[Avatar4321]

It's surprising to see how many people actually pay attention when we speak. We either ruffle feathers or command interest. I love it!

"Pride cometh before a fall, sayeth the Lord."

I sincerely hope you take that to heart. Maybe you will be more willing to listen to what the Lord has to say now rather than trying to claim He cant say any more.

 

[Truthspeaker]

Well I certainly hope you all had a GREAT Christmas, Jew and Gentile alike. I know I had a great Christmas spending it with all the Jews in this country who came to Disneyland with us. It was way less crowded and the park was beautiful. I even saw a huge character costume of Joseph Smith in the parade! It was awesome.

 

[Screaming Eagle]

Making up your own religion sort of defeats the purpose, doesn't it?

 

[Liability]

Making up your own religion sort of defeats the purpose, doesn't it?

Tell that to the Muslims.

 

[Truthspeaker]

Making up your own religion sort of defeats the purpose, doesn't it?

I guess if I did make up my own religion, I don't know what purpose I'd be defeating. Please elaborate since I haven't done either.

 

[Screaming Eagle]

Making up your own religion sort of defeats the purpose, doesn't it?

I guess if I did make up my own religion, I don't know what purpose I'd be defeating. Please elaborate since I haven't done either.

Religion serves the purpose of worshiping God, instituted by God. Joe Smith just made a bunch of crap up and everyone knows it.

 

[Avatar4321]

Making up your own religion sort of defeats the purpose, doesn't it?

I guess if I did make up my own religion, I don't know what purpose I'd be defeating. Please elaborate since I haven't done either.

Religion serves the purpose of worshiping God, instituted by God. Joe Smith just made a bunch of crap up and everyone knows it.

So your saying he just made things up and got extremely lucky with everything he nailed correctly? Personally, I think at some point you have to stop thinking it's just a coincidence and consider that there might be something to what he had to say.

 

[Screaming Eagle]

I guess if I did make up my own religion, I don't know what purpose I'd be defeating. Please elaborate since I haven't done either.

Religion serves the purpose of worshiping God, instituted by God. Joe Smith just made a bunch of crap up and everyone knows it.

So your saying he just made things up and got extremely lucky with everything he nailed correctly? Personally, I think at some point you have to stop thinking it's just a coincidence and consider that there might be something to what he had to say.

Nah.

 

[Avatar4321]

Religion serves the purpose of worshiping God, instituted by God. Joe Smith just made a bunch of crap up and everyone knows it.

So your saying he just made things up and got extremely lucky with everything he nailed correctly? Personally, I think at some point you have to stop thinking it's just a coincidence and consider that there might be something to what he had to say.

Nah.

So he didnt make things up. Glad to see you agree.

 

[Truthspeaker]

Examples like the one previous are the reasons why people continue to perpetuate ignorance.

 

[strollingbones]

doesnt your god live in heaven on what planet? doesnt your god have sexual relations with the "heavenly mother"? dont you believe that you are part of the spirit of god going back to the beginning and that you will become a "god" in the afterlife? dont you also believe you can baptize the dead?

do latter day saints associate with those who are not of their religion?

 

[strollingbones]

and that the native americans are a tribe of israel?

 

[strollingbones]

and tell us again where the garden of eden was?

 

[Liability]

and tell us again where the garden of eden was?

You mean it wasn't in South Jersey?

 

[Skeptik]

and tell us again where the garden of eden was?

Mormons believe that the Garden of Eden was on the American Continent (presumably, the North American) as that was one of the things that Joseph Smith said.

As to you other questions, the answer is yes to all of them.

 

[Truthspeaker]

doesnt your god live in heaven on what planet?

Heaven is more a state of existence than an actual planet. God lives on whatever planet he wants to. The name of the planet he most often resides on is not given. But the star closest to the planet is called Kolob. I get that you're trying to mock me on this but that's ok. It's the truth.

doesnt your god have sexual relations with the "heavenly mother"?

I don't know why people are mortified by the thought of sex in heaven. It's not a sin to have sex with a wife. It's one of the most powerful bonding experiences the two can have. But yes. We do believe that even though we don't talk much about it because sex is a sacred experience and shouldn't be spoken of lightly.

dont you believe that you are part of the spirit of god going back to the beginning and that you will become a "god" in the afterlife?

We do not believe that we are part of the spirit of God. He has His own spirit, coupled with His own body. Just like us. Individual. We do not believe that we "will" become gods, but that by obedience to the commandments of God, we can eventually achieve godhood in the eternities. It is not an instant transformation. Just think how long it will take to achieve all knowledge. That's about the timeline.

dont you also believe you can baptize the dead?

No. We do not baptize the dead. They stay in their graves. We do however perform baptisms FOR the dead by proxy. The soul of the person deceased, witnessing the act from the other side has the choice to accept or reject that baptism.

do latter day saints associate with those who are not of their religion?

I live in San Francisco. I barely associate with lds members.

 

[strollingbones]

i am not mocking you. i was simply asking questions. sorry you feel the need to be defensive.

your beliefs are your own...

 

[strollingbones]

i am reading "a higher authority" which deals with the mormon church and their core beliefs.

 

[amrchaos]

doesnt your god live in heaven on what planet?

Heaven is more a state of existence than an actual planet. God lives on whatever planet he wants to. The name of the planet he most often resides on is not given. But the star closest to the planet is called Kolob. I get that you're trying to mock me on this but that's ok. It's the truth.

doesnt your god have sexual relations with the "heavenly mother"?

I don't know why people are mortified by the thought of sex in heaven. It's not a sin to have sex with a wife. It's one of the most powerful bonding experiences the two can have. But yes. We do believe that even though we don't talk much about it because sex is a sacred experience and shouldn't be spoken of lightly.




We do not believe that we are part of the spirit of God. He has His own spirit, coupled with His own body. Just like us. Individual. We do not believe that we "will" become gods, but that by obedience to the commandments of God, we can eventually achieve godhood in the eternities. It is not an instant transformation. Just think how long it will take to achieve all knowledge. That's about the timeline.

dont you also believe you can baptize the dead?

No. We do not baptize the dead. They stay in their graves. We do however perform baptisms FOR the dead by proxy. The soul of the person deceased, witnessing the act from the other side has the choice to accept or reject that baptism.

do latter day saints associate with those who are not of their religion?

I live in San Francisco. I barely associate with lds members.

Hold it--Wait--Are you telling me that you believe that God is a space alien??

I reasoned it out through the use of theological claims and a priori logic, but some believers here got their panties in a wad and refused to accept it!!

At last, we have a christian that admits the truth!!! God is an E.T.!!

 

[amrchaos]

doesnt your god live in heaven on what planet?

Heaven is more a state of existence than an actual planet. God lives on whatever planet he wants to. The name of the planet he most often resides on is not given. But the star closest to the planet is called Kolob. I get that you're trying to mock me on this but that's ok. It's the truth.

doesnt your god have sexual relations with the "heavenly mother"?

I don't know why people are mortified by the thought of sex in heaven. It's not a sin to have sex with a wife. It's one of the most powerful bonding experiences the two can have. But yes. We do believe that even though we don't talk much about it because sex is a sacred experience and shouldn't be spoken of lightly.




We do not believe that we are part of the spirit of God. He has His own spirit, coupled with His own body. Just like us. Individual. We do not believe that we "will" become gods, but that by obedience to the commandments of God, we can eventually achieve godhood in the eternities. It is not an instant transformation. Just think how long it will take to achieve all knowledge. That's about the timeline.

dont you also believe you can baptize the dead?

No. We do not baptize the dead. They stay in their graves. We do however perform baptisms FOR the dead by proxy. The soul of the person deceased, witnessing the act from the other side has the choice to accept or reject that baptism.

do latter day saints associate with those who are not of their religion?

I live in San Francisco. I barely associate with lds members.

Hold it--Wait--Are you telling me that you believe that God is a space alien??

I reasoned it out through the use of theological claims and a priori logic, but some believers here got their panties in a wad and refused to accept it!!

At last, we have a christian that admits the truth!!! The Christian God is an E.T.!!