Problem is; your arguments or disagreements/differences, are in reality not with individuals on this forum but with the Word of God, the bible.
Which, of course, is an absolute lie because we believe the Bible. We just reject your incorrect interpretations of it. That is why we accept the very clear doctrines of the premortal life, Condescension of God, Deification of man, and the work on behalf of the dead.
The whole point of the Atonement is so we can become like God. So we can be joint heirs with Christ and recieve everything the Father has. The Bible is clear in this and you still continue to pretend as if its foreign to the scriptures.
Satan wants people to believe in Christ? now that's a shocker to me. Satan is going to provide more evidence that Jesus Christ is the Savior? Satan is encouraging people to repent and come to Christ? Seriously, Satan must be pretty stupid according to you.
I have no problem with God. I talk with Him frequently. But according to you I have to ignore what He says if its not in line with your personal interpretation of the Bible. That's where we have a problem. Because who should I believe, you or the Holy Spirit?
You dont understand the Holy Spirit. And that's alright. Not everyone does. But you wont learn from Him to find out because what if He teaches you that something youve incorrectly understood is wrong! Rather then let go of the pride, and accept more of the Word of God, you would rather cling onto your own understanding.
You base your personal beliefs not on the finality of God's Word, but on experiential type encounters, that totally go against the Word of God. Your verification used is elders or fellow church members rather than the inspired Word of God.
No, I base my personal beliefs on the Holy Spirit. Like all disciples of Christ have done in every age of man. The same source that inspired the Scriptures you claim to follow. The same source teaches men what the scriptures mean.
Christ didnt tell the Apostles to wait until they had the scriptures before they preached after his Ascension. He told them to wait for the Holy Ghost. And the Holy Ghost would teach them all things. It's the Holy Ghost that gives us the ability to preach with power. It's the Holy Ghost that sanctifies us.
Why are you so determined to ignore Him?
Again you've backed yourself into a perverbial corner. First of all, your Mormon jesus, is only biblical to the extent that your prophets say that the bible is correct. You know that for a fact.
This is where you take a right turn from the biblical Jesus, and turn Him into mere man who became glorified like any of you good Mormons may also become. I.E........You believe in a progression of gods, saviors, Adams and Eves for a myriad of never ending new planets, Earth just being one of those myriads. I.E. your Mormon jesus is not unique, as in God, Creator, one with God the Father, in purpose, character, and the "only" Son of God. No where in the bible does it teach that Jesus had a bro, named Lucifer. That is a big fat, bold faced lie, spoken by your prophets. In the bible/Word of God, Lucifer is an angel, who created, where Jesus is not created, but took on human flesh within Mary's womb. He once sat at the right hand of God, and committed Himself to the Father's plan of salvation, and allowed Himself to be incarnated in the flesh, starting out as a baby, then growing up to the ripe age of 33, and letting Adamic man crucify Him for Adamic man's sins.
You Mormons do not accept Jesus as the one and only Son of God, who is the Word, and the Word became flesh, and the Word was with God, and is God.(John Chapter one). Instead your jesus is again just a good man that lived a good god-obedient life, and was given godhood because of that. Instead God says in the bible, "My ways are not your ways" Also He is the same yesterday, today, and tomorrow. That means "pre-existent"..........I.E. No beginning to His life, and no end. Not the Mormon Jesus/god.........He was a created being, and reached godhood through works.
The biblical God says that we reach salvation through faith in Jesus' atoning work, that replaced us on the cross. Not only did He die for the sins of those who would believe in Him and receive eternal life in total communion with God Almight, but He died for the whole world. Sadly not the whole world will bend a knee and cry out "You are Lord of everything, and that includes my life, Jesus!".
Instead your religion or belief system builds it's foundation of "truth" upon fuzziness or subjective experiential, visions, burning bosoms, dreams, etc...
Mormons at the door are always telling potential converts, to "pray" and ask God if Mormonism is the "way" or "truth". Right there the red flag goes up. All knowledgeable bible Christians know that the Truth of God is not by prayer confirmation, but through the written, protected Word, that has not changed for the thousands of years that it has been passed on or translated/copied myriads of times till nowadays. God is omnipotent, and that is an anathema to the Mormon doctrine. Why? Cause if God is all omnipotent, then that means when He inspired both O.T. and N.T. authors, He/God in His almight omnipotence could and did protect the accuracy of His gospel throughout the ages down to now. The Mormon doctrine stands upon non bible authenticated communique's hopefully from God, but they/Mormon refuse to question the source,
cause their heart confirms it. God says that the human heart is desperately wicked, and deceitful.......I.E. it can't be trusted. That's why He/God omnipotently protected through eons of time His inspired Word so that we can believe, and receive the Holy Spirit/Spirit of Jesus, and total communion with God. We are restored back to that Eden era where we and God have a Spiritual tie, that can't be broken.
The Mormon god, Mormon Jesus, and Mormon holy spirit, are not biblical.
The Holy Spirit was promised to us by the soon ascending Christ to His disciples and all who would believe in Him/Christ as Lord and Savior in the future. It was referred to the Might Counselor, that would lead men/women ways that would allow them to discern the scriptures, that were Spiritual in origin.
This is why unsaved man cannot discern the power, and presence of God in the bible. Without the Holy Spirit indwelling and having control over that person's soul, the bible is just a story book of history in the Middle East.
The BOM cannot be Spiritually discerned, nor does it feed the true Christian, as it has come from the fleshly imagination and plagarism of a very lost man.
So many cults have popped up over the years because an individual attending a church got treated badly, or felt neglected in some way, and decided that they would find God their way. This is when they become "fresh meat" for Satan's deceptions. There is but one Gospel, and doesn't need renewing, nor does it have gaps in it that need filling-in. That is all the signs of a cultic, and Satanic counterfeit.
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True Christians ultimately must test all things with God's Word. That goes for visions, audible messages, teachings, sermons, dreams, and any phenomena that claims to be of divine origin. If those phenomena fail the test of God's Word, then they must be refused by that believer. Otherwise that Christian will end up mislead, and gradually drift away from God's will.
Mormons test their visions by sharing them with another Mormon who in turn has also had confirmation via some subjective way, who in turn confirms it with another Mormon. It is all man-confirmed and not God-confirmed.
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