The thing is, Reagan really was against tariffs.

Lockback said:
Admit it: you just hate Trump. Such a waste.
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My feelings for Trump have nothing to do with the fact that he can not keep a coherent thought or policy for longer than 30 seconds at a time
 
Lesh said:
My feelings for Trump have nothing to do with the fact that he can not keep a coherent thought or policy for longer than 30 seconds at a time
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How about his border policy, Simp? Followed thru didn't he?

Deportations? On schedule and as promised.

Trade deals? Yep.

How many wars has he helped negotiate an end to is he up to now? 8?


Al in 8 months.
 
Nostra said:
How about his border policy, Simp? Followed thru didn't he?

Deportations? On schedule and as promised.

Trade deals? Yep.

How many wars has he helped negotiate an end to is he up to now? 8?


Al in 8 months.
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Followed through?

He’s deporting family men and not criminals

Deporting criminals is hard apparently
 
ElmerMudd said:
You don't think Trump bullshits? Go ahead and take everything he says as truth. People like you is who Trump thrives on. He is the most successful snake oil salesman in the history of the world.
Many good conservatives think so. MAGA is not conservative.
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ElmerMudd said:
That is a good start.
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The idea that the right is unquestioning or what have you about Trump is a myth.

Partially caused by the fact that the vast majority of the complaints from the left are so overblown as to be absurd.


Rememeber when Trump said that nazis were very fine people? Didn't actually happen. It was a lie by the leftard media.
 
Correll said:
The idea that the right is unquestioning or what have you about Trump is a myth.

Partially caused by the fact that the vast majority of the complaints from the left are so overblown as to be absurd.


Rememeber when Trump said that nazis were very fine people? Didn't actually happen. It was a lie by the leftard media.
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For many conservatives, opposition to Donald Trump stems from concerns about his political rhetoric, his challenges to democratic norms, his perceived lack of consistent conservative principles, and his policies, which have sometimes strayed from traditional Republican orthodoxy. Conservative opposition to Trump is not a unified movement but comes from different factions, including traditional conservatives, "Never Trumpers," and some libertarian-leaning individuals.
Below is a list of Republicans who have worked in the Trump administration who don't support him, along with other prominent Republicans. The list is so long I could not post the entire list. See the refrenced article at the bottom.

Former Trump administration officials​

See also: List of former Trump administration officials who endorsed Kamala Harris

U.S. vice president​

Mike Pence

Cabinet-level officials​

John BoltonDan CoatsMark EsperJohn F. KellyH. R. McMaster

U.S. senators​

Current​

Susan CollinsLisa MurkowskiTodd Young

List of Republicans who opposed the Donald Trump 2024 presidential campaign - Wikipedia

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For many conservatives, opposition to Donald Trump stems from concerns about his political rhetoric, his challenges to democratic norms, his perceived lack of consistent conservative principles, and his policies, which have sometimes strayed from traditional Republican orthodoxy. Conservative opposition to Trump is not a unified movement but comes from different factions, including traditional conservatives, "Never Trumpers," and some libertarian-leaning individuals.
Below is a list of Republicans who have worked in the Trump administration who don't support him, along with other prominent Republicans. The list is so long I could not post the entire list. See the refrenced article at the bottom.

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I wonder how many the Trump DOJ will eventually attempt to prosecute.
 
berg80 said:

Trump terminates all U.S. trade negotiations with Canada over Reagan tariffs TV ad​

President Donald Trump said Thursday night that he was terminating all trade negotiations with Canada because the Ontario provincial government aired an ad featuring former President Ronald Reagan speaking negatively about tariffs.

Trump’s announcement accused Canada of trying to influence a pending U.S. Supreme Court case that could doom many of his tariffs, including ones on Canada.

His statement came after The Ronald Reagan Presidential Foundation and Institute said that the ad misrepresents a presidential radio address Reagan delivered in April 1987, and that his remarks were edited without permission.

The foundation did not say what was misleading.

Ontario enlists Ronald Reagan against Trump’s tariffs​

TORONTO — Ontario is using Ronald Reagan to warn that Donald Trump’s tariffs will cost Americans their jobs.

“We’re going to repeat that message to every Republican district there is right across the entire country,” Ontario Premier Doug Ford said this week, teasing the new ad campaign at a Toronto business luncheon.

The one-minute ad excerpts a 1987 radio address by Reagan to justify imposing 100 percent tariffs on Japanese electronics over a trade dispute over semiconductors.

Reagan’s address warned of the long-term economic perils of tariffs on foreign imports sold to Americans as a protectionist policy and explained they were imposed to sort a particular problem — not to begin a trade war.

“But over the long run, such trade barriers hurt every American, worker and consumer,” Reagan narrates in the ad. “High tariffs inevitably lead to retaliation by foreign countries and the triggering of fierce trade wars. Then the worst happens. Markets shrink and collapse, businesses and industries shut down and millions of people lose their jobs.”

China’s embassy in Washington notably used the same Reagan clip to troll Trump’s global tariffs when the China-U.S. trade war heated up in the spring.

Don has his extra large shorts in a bunch for being called out (posthumously) by Ron, the patron saint of conservatives. The crux of Reagan's remarks being consumers ultimately bear most of the cost of tariffs. Something the tariff man doesn't like being reminded of.

Tariff costs to companies this year to hit $1.2 trillion, with consumers taking most of the hit, S&P says​


Of course, consumers aren't the only ones who get hurt. Just ask the soy bean farmers.

Ohio soybean farmers left high and dry as Trump’s tariff tornado obliterates China market​

www.cleveland.com

Ohio soybean farmers left high and dry as Trump’s tariff tornado obliterates China market

Not a single bushel sold to China this year as tariff wars devastate Ohio's agricultural economy, leaving farmers facing potential federal bailout
www.cleveland.com www.cleveland.com
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I believe all or most republicans were against them before tRump told them to be for them.
 
shockedcanadian said:
Reagan was also strongly against Communism. Do you think he would have let Moscow run a $400B annual trade surplus on the back of U.S economy and johs outsourced there? Get real here, China and others use multiple trade barriers,.some far worse than tariffs.I assure you. If the S.C tries to force the reversal or.tariffs, not only would the U.S economy be hurt, yoir deficit far more.impactful,.foreign investment weakened, but it would take away the Executive.branch power and without question they would force Trump to walk away from USMCA and revert back to the trade deal of the 1970s. Reagan hit Japan with a.100% tariff on ally Japan, tariffs are a part of world trade.
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Problem with your whole premise is that the solution was set up for Trump when he came into office. The Trans Pacific Partnership (TPP)... IT was going to get a largest trading block in the world and keep China and other BRIC countries on the outside...

Trump pulled out of it, Why? He said it gave China too much power. But China weren't in it... This was considered a massive win for China
www.bbc.com

US leaving TPP: A great news day for China

US President-elect Donald Trump is giving a leg up to China in the great power game in Asia by withdrawing from the TPP.
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This one move made Trump the most favourable President towards China in modern history. Just that move...


Trump later asked about trying to get back in...



Tariffs will not work, it is utter bananas... Trump put 10% on Canada over a TV Ad... HE boy has lost it...
 
LeftofLeft said:
It’s not an excuse. It is a fact you can throw all of the numbers you want at voters. Unless they are feeling it -positive or negative- they aren’t going to move.

Talk about excuses, your side still won’t accept that the 4 year economy under Biden-Harris did not sit well with voters. All of the excuses and blaming Trump first term and prioritization of DEI did not work with the voters.
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dudmuck said:
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With Trump, I’m really enjoying the average national price per gallon of gas being under $3 per gallon. While no President directly sets prices as Democrats are quick to remind US, policies of Presidents clearly impact and influence prices. Under Biden-Harris, the average annual price of gas per gallon was $3.10, $4.06, $3.47, and $3.34.
 
LeftofLeft said:
With Trump, I’m really enjoying the average national price per gallon of gas being under $3 per gallon. While no President directly sets prices as Democrats are quick to remind US, policies of Presidents clearly impact and influence prices. Under Biden-Harris, the average annual price of gas per gallon was $3.10, $4.06, $3.47, and $3.34.
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gas is down because demand is down. The economy is slowing.
 
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dudmuck said:
gas is down because demand is down. The economy is slowing.
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Supply and demand play a role but for you to ignore the role a heavy regulatory policy plays on the domestic energy is significant as well. It’s not all supply and demand.

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Lesh said:
My feelings for Trump have nothing to do with the fact that he can not keep a coherent thought or policy for longer than 30 seconds at a time
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They try to paint policy disagreements as irrational hatred for Dotard. It happens all the time. Cuz they can't defend the policies.
 
berg80 said:
They try to paint policy disagreements as irrational hatred for Dotard. It happens all the time. Cuz they can't defend the policies.
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Buddy. YOU people are consumed with irrational hatred for DONALD TRUMP.
 
I do not get it! Canada, & US support for each other, are near neighbor always there in the past.
What happened? Loved visiting, treated well.
 
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