The Supreme Court’s Late-Night Rebuke to Trump Is Extraordinary in More Ways Than One

[Vrenn]

Like the criminal in El Salvador the immigration bill is a fraud. Progs are frauds. You will see when you reelect them. And may we all suffer when they return. To understand what others go through. And in the end, it is our own traitors and idiots who sold us out that the history books will write up. Give Trump his chance. Or perhaps you are afraid it will work.

The Orange Cheeto has been given more than his fair share of "A Chance". He's buried himself into a very deep hole and just keeps on digging. Meanwhile, you MAGAts are going to have to start apologizing for your extreme unconstitutional behavior.

 

[Vrenn]

It is illegal invaders of our border who cause pain and suffering for Americans

We are trying to downsize government with fewer employees not make it bigger

Then do it within the US Constitution. Something you MAGAts totally disregard.

 

[Mac-7]

Then do it within the US Constitution. Something you MAGAts totally disregard.

If we allow libs to tie up deportations in the courts no one will ever be forced to leave

Which is why biden flooded the nation with illegals

With the help of partisan flunky judges the left is desperately clinging to its fait accompli

 

[Vrenn]

If we allow libs to tie up deportations in the courts no one will ever be forced to leave

Which is why biden flooded the nation with illegals

With the help of partisan flunky judges the left is desperately clinging to its fait accompli

There has already been a bill to get them in a court to determine their whether they should be granted asylum or not. And please don't pull that cite, cite, cite crap.

I hope the extreme liberals get in power so they can deport you without a court. That would be fitting.

 

[Mac-7]

There has already been a bill to get them in a court to determine their whether they should be granted asylum or not. And please don't pull that cite, cite, cite crap.

I hope the extreme liberals get in power so they can deport you without a court. That would be fitting.

Is your blind hate toward native born US citizens that deep?

You are a shill for the migrant invasion of America

 

[cnm]

Was TOTALLY Illegal to allow in tens of millions of illegals. See how that works?

Refugees have a right to access courts in the territory to which they move.
That's the 1951 Convention on Refugees, the 1967 Protocol to which the US is signatory, therefore it's the supreme law of the land.

https://www.unhcr.org/about-unhcr/overview/1951-refugee-convention

MAGAts aren't really worried about letting laws get in the way of their hates.

 

[cnm]

Illegal immigrants are not granted asylum. LEGAL asylum seekers who apply for asylum when they arrive in the US and fit the criteria of fleeing for their lives and are able to convince first a Federal agent at the border, after preliminary screening and vetting and interview and records checking, and then an immigration court judge so may be granted asylum.

Read the convention. It's the supreme law of the land in the US and it says you're talking complete and utter bullshit.

https://www.unhcr.org/about-unhcr/overview/1951-refugee-convention

 

[kyzr]

Refugees have a right to access courts in the territory to which they move.
That's the 1951 Convention on Refugees, the 1967 Protocol to which the US is signatory, therefore it's the supreme law of the land.
MAGAts aren't really worried about letting laws get in the way of their hates.

1. Remain in Mexico says that illegals get a hearing date, and then get deported to Mexico.
2. Criminals and gang bangers who are in the US illegally get deported to El Salvador via the AEA, the predatory invasion of drug and human traffickers is a national security emergency that kills 100,000 Americans annually.

 

[cnm]

1. Remain in Mexico says that illegals get a hearing date, and then get deported to Mexico.
2. Criminals and gang bangers who are in the US illegally get deported to El Salvador via the AEA, the predatory invasion of drug and human traffickers is a national security emergency that kills 100,000 Americans annually.

It's true MAGAts hate obeying the supreme law of the land while protesting the sacredness of law and order.

Article 16​

access to courts​

1. A refugee shall have free access to the courts of law on the territory of all Contracting States.​

https://www.unhcr.org/sites/default/files/2025-02/1951-refugee-convention-1967-protocol.pdf ​

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Refugees have a right to access courts in the territory to which they move.
That's the 1951 Convention on Refugees, the 1967 Protocol to which the US is signatory, therefore it's the supreme law of the land.

https://www.unhcr.org/about-unhcr/overview/1951-refugee-convention

MAGAts aren't really worried about letting laws get in the way of their hates.

It was an Invasion and should have been called that way

 

[Vrenn]

Is your blind hate toward native born US citizens that deep?

You are a shill for the migrant invasion of America

Not nearly as much as your hatred for the constitution.

 

[Vrenn]

It was an Invasion and should have been called that way

Why, because you say so?

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Why, because you say so?

Absolutely

I said Gov Abbott should have declared Texas was under Invasion and called up the National Guard to close the border

Personally I believe you guys succeeded in destroying the USA as it is. Congratulations

 

[kyzr]

It's true MAGAts hate obeying the supreme law of the land while protesting the sacredness of law and order.

Article 16​

access to courts​

1. A refugee shall have free access to the courts of law on the territory of all Contracting States.​

https://www.unhcr.org/sites/default/files/2025-02/1951-refugee-convention-1967-protocol.pdf ​

They do have access to the courts, when their hearing is scheduled, but they wait in Mexico until then.

 

[kyzr]

It was an Invasion and should have been called that way

The drug cartels are killing 100,000 Americans a year, that is a "predatory invasion".

 

[pknopp]

The drug cartels are killing 100,000 Americans a year, that is a "predatory invasion".

Pharmaceutical companies killed more than that. I'll consider this a real concern to people when the Sacklers are behind bars.

 

[M14 Shooter]

It's true MAGAts hate obeying the supreme law of the land while protesting the sacredness of law and order.

Article 16​

access to courts​

1. A refugee shall have free access to the courts of law on the territory of all Contracting States.​

https://www.unhcr.org/sites/default/files/2025-02/1951-refugee-convention-1967-protocol.pdf ​

. For the purposes of the present Convention, the term “refugee” shall
apply to any person who:

(1) Has been considered a refugee under the Arrangements of 12 May 1926
and 30 June 1928 or under the Conventions of 28 October 1933 and 10
February 1938, the Protocol of 14 September 1939 or the Constitution of
the International Refugee Organization;
Decisions of non-eligibility taken by the International Refugee Organ-
ization during the period of its activities shall not prevent the status
of refugee being accorded to persons who fulfil the conditions of para-
graph 2 of this section;

(2) As a result of events occurring before 1 January 1951 and owing to well-
founded fear of being persecuted for reasons of race, religion, national-
ity, membership of a particular social group or political opinion, is out-
side the country of his nationality and is unable or, owing to such fear,
is unwilling to avail himself of the protection of that country; or who,
not having a nationality and being outside the country of his former
habitual residence as a result of such events, is unable or, owing to such
fear, is unwilling to return to it.

How do the illegal aliens in the United States qualify as refugees under the convention you cite?

 

[Lesh]

. For the purposes of the present Convention, the term “refugee” shall
apply to any person who:

(1) Has been considered a refugee under the Arrangements of 12 May 1926
and 30 June 1928 or under the Conventions of 28 October 1933 and 10
February 1938, the Protocol of 14 September 1939 or the Constitution of
the International Refugee Organization;
Decisions of non-eligibility taken by the International Refugee Organ-
ization during the period of its activities shall not prevent the status
of refugee being accorded to persons who fulfil the conditions of para-
graph 2 of this section;

(2) As a result of events occurring before 1 January 1951 and owing to well-
founded fear of being persecuted for reasons of race, religion, national-
ity, membership of a particular social group or political opinion, is out-
side the country of his nationality and is unable or, owing to such fear,
is unwilling to avail himself of the protection of that country; or who,
not having a nationality and being outside the country of his former
habitual residence as a result of such events, is unable or, owing to such
fear, is unwilling to return to it.

How do the illegal aliens in the United States qualify as refugees under the convention you cite?

What have the Courts said?

Why are you asking an anonymous poster on an internet board that question?

 

[cnm]

They do have access to the courts, when their hearing is scheduled, but they wait in Mexico until then.

You MAGAts just don't believe in the rule of law, do you?

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What rights do refugees have under the 1951 Convention? ​

The cornerstone of the 1951 Convention is the principle of non-refoulement contained in Article 33. According to this principle, a refugee should not be returned to a country where they face serious threats to their life or freedom.​

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Other rights contained in the 1951 Convention include:​

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• The right not to be expelled, except under certain, strictly defined conditions (Article 32)
• The right not to be punished for irregular entry into the territory of a contracting State (Article 31)
• The right to non-discrimination (Articles 3 and 5)
• The right to decent work (Articles 17 to 19 and 24)
• The right to housing, land and property, including intellectual property (Articles 13, 14 and 21)
• The right to education (Article 22)
• The right to freedom of religion (Article 4)
• The right to access to justice (Article 16)
• The right to freedom of movement within the territory (Article 26 and Article 31 (2))
• The right to be issued civil, identity and travel documents (Articles 12, 27 and 28)
• The right to social protection (Articles 23 and 24 (2-4)).

https://www.unhcr.org/about-unhcr/overview/1951-refugee-convention

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[M14 Shooter]

What have the Courts said?
Why are you asking an anonymous poster on an internet board that question?

Pay attention, dumbshit:

That 'anonymous poster on an internet board' interjected this treaty into the conversation, claiming that said treaty guarantees illegal aliens in the US access to US courts.
This is only the case if, under the terms of said treaty, the illegal aliens in the US qualify as "refugees".

Thus, my question:
How do the illegal aliens in the United States qualify as refugees under the cited convention?

Don't bother responding as we all know you cannot meaningfully answer said question.