The Supreme Court’s Late-Night Rebuke to Trump Is Extraordinary in More Ways Than One

[pknopp]

I am in favor of doing that. As a piece of the immigration problem.

But no one will. It's all a big dog and pony show.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

Ok, it will cost more to detain them in the US while we wait for a judge to sign the deportation release

But if that's what Robert’s wants we will have to comply

What’s extraordinary is Trump’s defiance of the Supreme Court – further proof of Trump’s contempt for the rule of law.

Indeed, even the likes of Nixon acknowledged the authority of the Court, facilitating the end of Nixon.

Trump is worse than Watergate, a greater threat to democracy and the American nation.

 

[Rawley]

What the Democrats did went over very poorly but it was not illegal.

Your opinion.

 

[Mac-7]

What’s extraordinary is Trump’s defiance of the Supreme Court – further proof of Trump’s contempt for the rule of law.

Indeed, even the likes of Nixon acknowledged the authority of the Court, facilitating the end of Nixon.

Trump is worse than Watergate, a greater threat to democracy and the American nation.

Trump will obey Roberts and the other lib members of the court

You dont even understand the man you’re up against

 

[pknopp]

Your opinion.

If it had been the Republicans could have put a stop to it just like those are doing with Trump's illegal moves.

 

[Lesh]

Thank you for pointing out the obvious. There aren't enough courts and defense lawyers to do the job well right now. This is the fix. Increase those two things and get it where it falls under the Consitution. I imagine a court completion in less than 30 days would meet that requirement.

There WOULD be enough courts and judges had Trump not stopped the bipartisan immigration bill.

Oh by the way… where is the GOP bill you clowns touted?

You own both houses and the exec

 

[Rawley]

If it had been the Republicans could have put a stop to it just like those are doing with Trump's illegal moves.

With these ridiculous lawsuits? All they are doing is slowing down the process a bit. The Executive's power to deport illegals will be upheld

 

[pknopp]

With these ridiculous lawsuits? All they are doing is slowing down the process a bit. The Executive's power to deport illegals will be upheld

No one has ever argued that they do not have the power to deport. No one. The only argument is that it must be done legally.

 

[Rawley]

No one has ever argued that they do not have the power to deport. No one. The only argument is that it must be done legally.

And so far he's winning every battle that he's doing it legally

 

[pknopp]

And so far he's winning every battle that he's doing it legally

Trump doing things legally seems to be pretty rare but that's all well and fine.

 

[EvilEyeFleegle]

And so far he's winning every battle that he's doing it legally

Actually, he's lost far more than he's won.
No one argues that he cannot deport someone in our country illegally--he just cannot do it without due process....nor can he deport someone to a country that they are not citizens of--nor can he deport American citizens

This guy is literally trying illegal end runs around judges...hoodwinking detainees with bogus paperwork...and was within hours of illegally deporting detainees without due process---again!

 

[whitehall]

Do they still refer to criminals who are illegally in the U.S. as "immigrants"? Maybe the Court isn't getting the right information.

 

[meaner gene]

Do they still refer to criminals who are illegally in the U.S. as "immigrants"? Maybe the Court isn't getting the right information.

Lying to the Supreme Court is a pretty quick career ender.
There is no appeal from the highest court DISBARRING a lawyer.

The United States Supreme Court itself has the authority to disbar lawyers from practicing before it. They have the power to determine who is admitted to the bar and for what reasons they might be removed. This power extends to disciplinary actions, including suspension or disbarment, for conduct deemed unbecoming a member of the bar or for violating the court's rules.

 

[Vrenn]

And your solution is?

Already state it and you MAGAts crapped all over your keyboards tearing it down.

 

[martybegan]

Well..this is bit unusual--the SCOTUS has acted with unprecedented speed to halt the illegal deportations to El Salvador.
What was going on behind the scenes remains somewhat unknown, but apparently Justice Alito attempted an end run around the court....and was slapped down.

The Supreme Court’s Late-Night Rebuke to Trump Is Extraordinary in More Ways Than One

The court didn't even wait to let Alito file his dissent.

slate.com

Shortly before 1 a.m. on Saturday, the Supreme Court issued an emergency order halting the Trump administration’s reported efforts to fly Venezuelan migrants to an El Salvador prison before they could challenge their deportation. The court’s late-night intervention is an extraordinary and highly unusual rebuke to the government, one that may well mark a turning point in the majority’s approach to this administration. For months, SCOTUS has given the government every benefit of the doubt, accepting the Justice Department’s dubious assertions and awarding Trump immense deference. On Saturday, however, a majority of justices signaled that they no longer trust the administration to comply with the law, including the court’s own rulings. If that is indeed the case, we are likely careening toward a head-on conflict between the president and the court, with foundational principles of constitutional democracy hanging in the balance.


SCOTUS’s emergency order in A.A.R.P. v. Trump arose out of the government’s unlawful efforts to ship Venezuelan migrants to a Salvadoran prison by invoking the Alien Enemies Act of 1798. On Thursday, lawyers for these individuals told a federal court that the government was preparing to summarily deport them to El Salvador, where they would be indefinitely confined at a notorious detention center. A federal judge in the Southern District of Texas had already blocked their removal—but the government sought to evade this order by busing the migrants into the Northern District of Texas, where the restraining order would not apply. It then gave these migrants “notices,” in English only, declaring that they would be deported immediately, without stating that they could contest their deportations in court. (Officials refused to give these notices, or any other information, to the migrants’ lawyers.) The government intended to fly them out of the country within 24 hours, according to court filings.

The ACLU then begged the Supreme Court for help. And the court obliged. The majority directed the government “not to remove” any of the individuals seeking relief “until further order of this court.” As a result, the government was unable to deport the migrants to El Salvador—as it appeared about to do—and they remain in U.S. custody. Only Justices Samuel Alito and Clarence Thomas noted their dissents.

There are three remarkable aspects of the court’s decision. First, it acted with startling speed—so quickly, in fact, that it published the order before Alito could finish writing his dissent; he was forced to note only that a “statement” would “follow.” It is a major breach of protocol for the Supreme Court to publish an order or opinion before a dissenting justice finishes writing their opinion, one that reflects the profound urgency of the situation. Relatedly, awkward phrasing in court’s order may imply that Alito—who first received the plaintiffs’ request—failed to refer it to the full court, as is custom, compelling the other justices to rip the case away from him. No matter what, exactly, happened behind the scenes, it’s clear that a majority would not let Alito hold up speedy action. It also acted before the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 5th Circuit had a chance to step in, and before the Department of Justice had an opportunity to respond to the plaintiffs. These highly abnormal moves also reveal a desire to act fast.

Second, it is plain as day that the Supreme Court simply did not trust the Trump administration’s claims that it would not deport migrants over the weekend without due process.

Finally, and perhaps most obviously, it’s critical that only Thomas and Alito noted their dissents. When the court takes emergency action, justices don’t have to note their votes, but they usually do; we can probably assume that this order was 7–2. That would mean that Chief Justice John Roberts—along Justices Neil Gorsuch, Brett Kavanaugh, and Amy Coney Barrett—joined this rebuke to the Trump administration. Until now, all of these justices have, to varying degrees, treated the president with kid gloves, handing him a series of narrow wins on procedural grounds that avoided direct collision between the branches. That accommodation came to an abrupt stop on Saturday

At least it's the Supreme Court doing it, and not some dipshit District Judge.

 

[Vrenn]

There WOULD be enough courts and judges had Trump not stopped the bipartisan immigration bill.

Oh by the way… where is the GOP bill you clowns touted?

You own both houses and the exec

I just love it when someone like you craps all over their keyboard. I am one of the original Anti Trumpers and one of the founding members (I sent them money) for the Lincoln Project.

 

[scruffy]

Actually, he's lost far more than he's won.
No one argues that he cannot deport someone in our country illegally--he just cannot do it without due process....nor can he deport someone to a country that they are not citizens of--nor can he deport American citizens

This guy is literally trying illegal end runs around judges...hoodwinking detainees with bogus paperwork...and was within hours of illegally deporting detainees without due process---again!

Quack quack quack.

President Trump is doing exactly what he was elected to do.

He is repairing the damage done by Biden's illegal violations of our immigration law.

You're not expected to like it. Tough titties. The deportations will continue. And America will be a safer place because of them.

 

[80zephyr]

Already state it and you MAGAts crapped all over your keyboards tearing it down.

I must have missed it...

 

[M14 Shooter]

On Saturday, however, a majority of justices signaled that they no longer trust the administration to comply with the law, including the court’s own rulings

Unsupportable nonsense.
Absolutely nothing in the order supports this.

Second, it is plain as day that the Supreme Court simply did not trust the Trump administration’s claims that it would not deport migrants over the weekend without due process.

Unsupportable nonsense.
Absolutely nothing in the order supports this.

Finally, and perhaps most obviously, it’s critical that only Thomas and Alito noted their dissents. When the court takes emergency action, justices don’t have to note their votes, but they usually do; we can probably assume that this order was 7–2.

Unsupportable nonsense.
Absolutely nothing in the order supports this.

Your opinion piece is full of presuppositions not supported by the order in question - as such, it borders on propaganda.

 

[22lcidw]

There WOULD be enough courts and judges had Trump not stopped the bipartisan immigration bill.

Oh by the way… where is the GOP bill you clowns touted?

You own both houses and the exec

Like the criminal in El Salvador the immigration bill is a fraud. Progs are frauds. You will see when you reelect them. And may we all suffer when they return. To understand what others go through. And in the end, it is our own traitors and idiots who sold us out that the history books will write up. Give Trump his chance. Or perhaps you are afraid it will work.