The sun is constant yet ocean temperatures increase and decrease. Why?

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Agreed, I believe that’s an elaboration of what I said in my post, right?

I guess I missed it. My bad.

 

[abu afak]

You believe that orbital forcing affects the climate of the planet, right? For much the same reason, heat changes in polar regions, right?

Why isn't orbital forcing included in the radiative forcing components of the IPCC reports if they are such large climate drivers that can cause glaciation and deglaciation in the polar regions?

Because the IPCC is dealing with Current factors, while you are dishonestly trying to avoid the fact AGW is warming the planet (air, land, sea) by throwing up an EFFECT of that warming. (warmer ocean currents} as the cause instead. Worse/funnier you can only point to it in One hemisphere while the Globe is warming as would be true of AGW.

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[abu afak]

Hmmmm. Ocean leading?

AI Overview

Yes, the Northern Hemisphere warms faster than the Southern Hemisphere in part because it has more land and less ocean:

• Land heats up faster
  Land heats up more quickly than water, so the Northern Hemisphere heats up more easily during the summer.
  
  
• Ocean warms more slowly
  Oceans warm more slowly than land, so the Northern Hemisphere warms faster.
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[Leo123]

The power of the Sun at the Earth, per square metre is called the solar constant and is approximately 1370 watts per square metre (W/m2). The variation in the solar constant has been about 0.1% over a period of about 30 years.

Mean ocean temperature during the last four glacial cycles have changed by as much as 6C.

If solar output is constant during glacial and interglacial periods, why does the mean ocean temperature change by as much as 6C?

Man wasn't around back then.

Was the atmosphere responsible for the ocean warming and cooling by 4C to 6C? If so, how did the atmosphere do it?

Were ocean currents responsible for the ocean warming and cooling by 4C to 6C?? If so, how did ocean currents do it?

The Sun doesn't reach the full depths of the ocean where the water is cold. Winds cause wave action which churns the water and brings cooler water to the surface where the Sun warms it and the cycle continues..

 

[EMH]

Tons of evidence.

There is a lot of evidence that the ocean is warming, including:

• Heat storage: The ocean is storing about 91% of the excess heat energy trapped in the Earth's climate system by greenhouse gases.
  
  
  
• Sea level rise: The ocean's warming is causing thermal expansion, which contributes to sea level rise.
  
  
  
• Marine heat waves: The number of marine heat days has increased by over 50% since 1925.
  
  
  
• Coral bleaching: Warming oceans are bleaching coral reefs.
  
  
  
• Melting ice: The melting of glaciers and ice sheets around Greenland and Antarctica is contributing to sea level rise.
  
  
  
• Arctic sea ice decline: The extent and thickness of Arctic sea ice has declined rapidly over the last several decades.
  
  
  
• Ocean temperature increase: The global sea surface temperature (SST) increased by 0.11 °C (0.19 °F) between 1950 and 2020.
  
  
  
• Impacts on marine life: Warming oceans are driving marine life toward the poles and causing severe impacts on fisheries and aquacultures.

This is a laundry list of AGW lies, easily disproven...

The coral bleaching is complete BS, the Thai bleaching was because fishermen there were squirting actual bleech into the coral, which would flush fish out into their nets.

There is no ongoing net ice melt, and the declining surface air pressure truth completely refutes it.

There is no ocean temp increase and hurricanes refute that.

There is no sea level rise and the Statue of Liberty proves it.


YOU ARE A FOUNTAIN OF THE MOST OBVIOUS LIES OF THE CO2 FRAUD because YOU ARE A PAID EMPLOYEE OF THE Co2 FRAUD....

 

[EMH]

And as for Arctic Sea Ice, that is on a long term downtrend because the Arctic Ocean is growing.

For the other side, Antarctic sea ice was setting new record highs every 3-4 years.... for decades.... until 2015, when homO launched a new "climate satellite" which claims Antarctic sea ice has completely reversed.... or the satellite is FUDGED FRAUD in orbit...

 

[EMH]

What in the world are you talking about?! Have you even tried reading actual science or are you stuck in the conspiracy black hole

Do you have an IQ over 5.... NO, which is why you PARROT and NEVER THINK...

the DATA on canes, strongest decade 1940s, second strongest 1890s...

U.S. Hurricane Strikes by Decade

When was the last time a Cat 5 hit Massachusetts ???

1938

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[Slade3200]

Do you have an IQ over 5.... NO, which is why you PARROT and NEVER THINK...

the DATA on canes, strongest decade 1940s, second strongest 1890s...

U.S. Hurricane Strikes by Decade

When was the last time a Cat 5 hit Massachusetts ???

1938

Google Search

www.google.com

So you ignore the flood of scientific reports that show the ocean is warming and make some half baked conclusion based on hurricane activity? Wow. And you have the gall to mock other peoples IQ?! That’s funny

The last 10 years were the ocean’s warmest decade since at least the 1800s. The year 2023 was the ocean’s warmest recorded year.

 

[ding]

Because the IPCC is dealing with Current factors, while you are dishonestly trying to avoid the fact AGW is warming the planet (air, land, sea) by throwing up an EFFECT of that warming. (warmer ocean currents} as the cause instead. Worse/funnier you can only point to it in One hemisphere while the Globe is warming as would be true of AGW.

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But they say the planet should be cooling.

 

[ding]

The Sun doesn't reach the full depths of the ocean where the water is cold. Winds cause wave action which churns the water and brings cooler water to the surface where the Sun warms it and the cycle continues..

Yes, that is true.

 

[EMH]

scientific reports that show the ocean is warming

FUDGED DATA is not science, moron.

Hurricanes prove THERE IS NO OCEAN WARMING.

The last 10 years were the ocean’s warmest decade since at least the 1800s. The year 2023 was the ocean’s warmest recorded year

Class A science invalid, you are, beak and birdbrain....


What was the Co2 FRAUD saying about this subject before???

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[ding]

Hurricanes prove THERE IS NO OCEAN WARMING.

That's got to be the dumbest logic ever. It's as equally dumb as saying hurricanes prove the ocean is warming.

You know what proves the ocean is warming or cooling? Temperature.

 

[EMH]

You know what proves the ocean is warming or cooling? Temperature.

Temperature can be FUDGED, and is over and over by Co2 FRAUD.

What did Co2 FRAUD say about canes and ocean warming before...

ocean warming stronger hurricanes at DuckDuckGo

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[ding]

Temperature can be FUDGED, and is over and over by Co2 FRAUD.

What did Co2 FRAUD say about canes and ocean warming before...

ocean warming stronger hurricanes at DuckDuckGo

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Oxygen isotopes and nobel gases are not fudged, jackass.

 

[EMH]

Oxygen isotopes and nobel gases are not fudged, jackass.

Oxygen isotopes are not a clean pure proxy for temps, liar.

Neither are "nobel gasses."

And yes, the Co2 FRAUd FUDGES data whenever it needs to...

 

[ding]

Oxygen isotopes are not a clean pure proxy for temps, liar.

Neither are "nobel gasses."

And yes, the Co2 FRAUd FUDGES data whenever it needs to...

Oxygen isotopes and nobel gases most certainly are proxies for ocean temperature.

Snapshots of mean ocean temperature over the last 700 000 years using noble gases in the EPICA Dome C ice core

Abstract. Together with the latent heat stored in glacial ice sheets, the ocean heat uptake carries the lion's share of glacial–interglacial changes in the planetary heat content, but little direct information on the global mean ocean temperature (MOT) is available to constrain the ocean...

cp.copernicus.org

 

[EMH]

Oxygen isotopes and nobel gases most certainly are proxies for ocean temperature.

Snapshots of mean ocean temperature over the last 700 000 years using noble gases in the EPICA Dome C ice core

Abstract. Together with the latent heat stored in glacial ice sheets, the ocean heat uptake carries the lion's share of glacial–interglacial changes in the planetary heat content, but little direct information on the global mean ocean temperature (MOT) is available to constrain the ocean...

cp.copernicus.org

What about the oxygen isotope ratio of volcano eruptions?

 

[ding]

What about the oxygen isotope ratio of volcano eruptions?

What about them?

 

[EMH]

What about them?

You are the "expert" on oxygen isotopes, don't you know?

Why not?

There are active volcanoes on Antarctica....

 

[ding]

You are the "expert" on oxygen isotopes, don't you know?

Why not?

There are active volcanoes on Antarctica....

So in other words another dumb red herring of yours like hurricanes are used to measure the ocean's temperature.