The sun is constant yet ocean temperatures increase and decrease. Why?

[ding]

As has been so often the case, you once again demonstrate that you haven't the faintest fuck of an idea what you're talking about.

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0277379104000575

Milankovitch (Orbital) Cycles and Their Role in Earth's Climate - NASA Science

Small cyclical variations in the shape of Earth's orbit, its wobble and the angle its axis is tilted play key roles in influencing Earth's climate over timespans of tens of thousands to hundreds of thousands of years.

science.nasa.gov

https://earthweb.ess.washington.edu/roe/Web/GerardWeb/Publications_files/Roe_Milankovitch_GRL06.pdf

https://agupubs.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1029/94PA00443

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0277379104000575

https://www.pnas.org/doi/full/10.1073/pnas.1502239112

So thumbnail the physical evidence for climate changes from orbital cycles.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

It appears to me that we have a fraudulent system.

Then they tell you: American CO2 bad, CCP CO2 good

 

[Crick]

So thumbnail the physical evidence for climate changes from orbital cycles.

I've given you a half dozen studies and articles explaining it. If you can't understand what they're saying or just don't feel like reading it, do us all a favor and drop out of the conversation.

 

[ding]

I've given you a half dozen studies and articles explaining it. If you can't understand what they're saying or just don't feel like reading it, do us all a favor and drop out of the conversation.

And you still can't put it into simple words like I can put into simple words how the ocean causes cooling and warming trends up to and including abrupt changes.

You're a fraud and a liar. There is no known mechanism for orbital cycles only a lot of arm waving and poor correlations without any numbers.

 

[Crick]

And you still can't put it into simple words like I can put into simple words how the ocean causes cooling and warming trends up to and including abrupt changes.

You're a fraud and a liar. There is no known mechanism for orbital cycles only a lot of arm waving and poor correlations without any numbers.

Arm waving and poor correlations without numbers don't get published in peer reviewed journals; similar to the way in which NO articles supporting your nonsensical contentions have ever been published.

 

[ding]

Arm waving and poor correlations without numbers don't get published in peer reviewed journals; similar to the way in which NO articles supporting your nonsensical contentions have ever been published.

Apparently they do when it's part of the fraud. There's no physical evidence for it. There's no mechanism that explains how it triggers glacial and interglacial periods. It's not something that can cause abrupt changes. And you can't explain in simple terms because of all of the above.

Ocean currents causing climate changes does have physical evidence, does have a mechanism for climate changes up to and including abrupt climate changes and can be easily explained.

You're a fraud.

 

[Crick]

Apparently they do when it's part of the fraud. There's no physical evidence for it. There's no mechanism that explains how it triggers glacial and interglacial periods. It's not something that can cause abrupt changes. And you can't explain in simple terms because of all of the above.

Ocean currents causing climate changes does have physical evidence, does have a mechanism for climate changes up to and including abrupt climate changes and can be easily explained.

You're a fraud.

You are a lying piece of shit. Do you really want me to go back to those articles and pull out the evidence to PROVE you're an ignorant liar or would you just care to step back?

 

[ding]

You are a lying piece of shit. Do you really want me to go back to those articles and pull out the evidence to PROVE you're an ignorant liar or would you just care to step back?

Walk me through one glacial cycle. Explain to me how orbital cycles initiated a glacial period and then tell me how orbital cycles ended the glacial period and initiated an interglacial period.

Because I can tell you quite easily how thermohaline circulation initiated a glacial period and then ended a glacial period and share with you the physical evidence that supports it.

 

[Crick]

Walk me through one glacial cycle. Explain to me how orbital cycles initiated a glacial period and then tell me how orbital cycles ended the glacial period and initiated an interglacial period.

Because I can tell you quite easily how thermohaline circulation initiated a glacial period and then ended a glacial period and share with you the physical evidence that supports it.

I read your links. I didn't ask you to explain them. I saw, as I told you, that none of them supported your contentions. I quoted your articles and showed that they disagreed with you and instead agreed with mainstream science (what I've been putting out here). You are just stupid as a fucking rock or a bald-faced liar.

 

[ding]

I read your links. I didn't ask you to explain them. I saw, as I told you, that none of them supported your contentions. I quoted your articles and showed that they disagreed with you and instead agreed with mainstream science (what I've been putting out here). You are just stupid as a fucking rock or a bald-faced liar.

I don't understand how orbital cycles can trigger glacial periods and then end them. Do you?

 

[BackAgain]

The sun is constant yet ocean temperatures increase and decrease. Why?​

Because some idiot keeps flipping the heating switch on and off.

Probably a college student.

 

[ozro]

The sun is constant yet ocean temperatures increase and decrease. Why?​

Because some idiot keeps flipping the heating switch on and off.

Probably a college student.

Damn teenagers more than likely.

 

[HaShev]

Ironically, the preservation of the sea turtles by the environmentalists, seems to have have been the catalyst to the slow slightest of increase to sea temperatures, because they are eating up all the sea grass that obsorbs the co2 emissions helps in keeping the ocean temps cooler. Warmer sea temps help sustain & increase the hurricanes.
So instead of slaughtering cows for no gain, perhaps they should start feasting for food on turtles and or stop the large programs helping to increase their populations to overfeed on the sea grass. Cue the Haitians eating our pet Turtle memes

Look it up; Sea Grass is storing carbon dioxide in its tissues and surrounding sediments, essentially performing "oxidation" by removing carbon from the water column through this process; therefore, seagrass is considered a key player in mitigating climate change by capturing carbon dioxide from the atmosphere.

Notice the slightest of gradual temp changes coincide with the national movement to make turtle safe zones and protections on beaches with roped off areas and sometimes assisting them. Necessary to rebuild the turtle population, they forgot the cause and affect of their seemingly good act. Like I always say, what seems good is not always what's best.

 

[expat_panama]

The power of the Sun at the Earth, per square metre is called the solar constant and is approximately 1370 watts per square metre (W/m2). The variation in the solar constant has been about 0.1% over a period of about 30 years....

Whoa, that's wonderful! At the same time (from here)...

​

In 2024, Earth will be 91,404,095 miles away from the Sun at perihelion and 94,510,539 miles away from the Sun at aphelion. So, Earth is about 4,800,000 km (3,000,000 miles) farther from the Sun in July than in January.​

--and thanks to our wonderful inverse square law that means that every January the earth should receive 7% more radiation, but it doesn't because of other factors. One theory is that the sun knows the earth is closer so it automatically KNOWS it's not supposed to send out too much of that NASTY radiation.

Got to keep that constant steady so it doesn't move more than "0.1%".

 

[EMH]

When heat is circulated from the Atlantic to the Arctic the planet warms.

That results is precisely no change to Earth heat content and like everything else you post is complete BS.

 

[EMH]

Ironically, the preservation of the sea turtles by the environmentalists, seems to have have been the catalyst to the slow slightest of increase to sea temperatures, because they are eating up all the sea grass that obsorbs the co2 emissions helps in keeping the ocean temps cooler. Warmer sea temps help sustain & increase the hurricanes.
So instead of slaughtering cows for no gain, perhaps they should start feasting for food on turtles and or stop the large programs helping to increase their populations to overfeed on the sea grass. Cue the Haitians eating our pet Turtle memes

Look it up; Sea Grass is storing carbon dioxide in its tissues and surrounding sediments, essentially performing "oxidation" by removing carbon from the water column through this process; therefore, seagrass is considered a key player in mitigating climate change by capturing carbon dioxide from the atmosphere.

Notice the slightest of gradual temp changes coincide with the national movement to make turtle safe zones and protections on beaches with roped off areas and sometimes assisting them. Necessary to rebuild the turtle population, they forgot the cause and affect of their seemingly good act. Like I always say, what seems good is not always what's best.

Maybe your chosen ass can answer a few basic climate questions for us....


1. Why does one Earth polar circle have 9+ times the ice of the other?
2. Why is there ice age glacier south of Arctic Circle on Greenland but no such ice age glacier north of Arctic Circle on Alaska?
3. If the oceans are "warming" why is the record decade for canes still the 1940s?
4. If the oceans are "rising" why can't we see one single photo of land sinking?
5. How did Co2 thaw North America and freeze Greenland at the same time?

 

[ding]

That results is precisely no change to Earth heat content and like everything else you post is complete BS.

Incorrect. The northern hemisphere deglaciating or glaciating impacts global temperatures.

 

[EMH]

Incorrect. The northern hemisphere deglaciating or glaciating impacts global temperatures.

Laughable. You cannot refute 600 miles to the pole. Ocean currents do not change Earth heat content.

Greenland froze while North America thawed, and that refutes everything you post.

 

[Donald H]

Laughable. You cannot refute 600 miles to the pole. Ocean currents do not change Earth heat content.

Greenland froze while North America thawed, and that refutes everything you post.

It can't get better than this! Two denialists spamming each other now!

 

[EMH]

It can't get better than this! Two denialists spamming each other now!

You are the "denialist"

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