The South American slave trade.

[AMart]

In 1619, the Dutch introduced the first captured Africans to America, planting the seeds of a slavery system that evolved into a nightmare of abuse and cruelty that would ultimately divide the nation.

Although not taught in school, it was the Dutch Jews who started and ran the African slave trade in both North and South America. ....

Portuguese Jews financed the first W. African expedition and built the first sugar plantations off of the coast of W. Africa. An Island they named Sao Tome around 1470.

Álvaro Caminha founded the colony of São Tomé in 1493. The Portuguese came to São Tomé in search of land to grow sugarcane. The island was uninhabited before the arrival of the Portuguese sometime around 1470. São Tomé, situated about 40 kilometres (25 mi) north of the equator, had a climate wet enough to grow sugarcane in wild abundance. 2,000 Jewish children, eight years old and under, were taken from the Iberian peninsula for work on the sugar plantations.[2]

Príncipe was settled in 1500 under a similar arrangement. Attracting settlers proved difficult, however, and most of the earliest inhabitants were "undesirables" sent from Portugal, mostly Jews.

São Tomé - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Financed? More like kicked off and taken into slavery during Inquisition.

That was 30 years after the first financed expedition in which the island was discovered. It is well known that Portugal made Jews convert or they had to leave. That started in 1496-97.

Exactly, and the first expedition was in 1493, Álvaro Caminha founded the colony,
after in 1942 (rings familiar?) king John II of Portugal appointed him governor,
sending 2,000 Jewish kids, 8 and below, to work on plantations - as slaves.

Do you need this explained on fingers?

So what. I said Jews financed the first expeditions to W. Africa. Jews were heavily involved on the slave trade.

Yes, you said, and were shown to be quiet wrong,
actually one couldn't be more wrong than you still insist on.

Look Jews were heavily involved in the slave trade. FACT, get over it.

 

[Mindful]

Jews were heavily involved on the slave trade.

You mean like other members of the human race?

 

[rylah]

In 1619, the Dutch introduced the first captured Africans to America, planting the seeds of a slavery system that evolved into a nightmare of abuse and cruelty that would ultimately divide the nation.

Although not taught in school, it was the Dutch Jews who started and ran the African slave trade in both North and South America. ....

Portuguese Jews financed the first W. African expedition and built the first sugar plantations off of the coast of W. Africa. An Island they named Sao Tome around 1470.

Álvaro Caminha founded the colony of São Tomé in 1493. The Portuguese came to São Tomé in search of land to grow sugarcane. The island was uninhabited before the arrival of the Portuguese sometime around 1470. São Tomé, situated about 40 kilometres (25 mi) north of the equator, had a climate wet enough to grow sugarcane in wild abundance. 2,000 Jewish children, eight years old and under, were taken from the Iberian peninsula for work on the sugar plantations.[2]

Príncipe was settled in 1500 under a similar arrangement. Attracting settlers proved difficult, however, and most of the earliest inhabitants were "undesirables" sent from Portugal, mostly Jews.

São Tomé - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Financed? More like kicked off and taken into slavery during Inquisition.

That was 30 years after the first financed expedition in which the island was discovered. It is well known that Portugal made Jews convert or they had to leave. That started in 1496-97.

Exactly, and the first expedition was in 1493, Álvaro Caminha founded the colony,
after in 1942 (rings familiar?) king John II of Portugal appointed him governor,
sending 2,000 Jewish kids, 8 and below, to work on plantations - as slaves.

Do you need this explained on fingers?

So what. I said Jews financed the first expeditions to W. Africa. Jews were heavily involved on the slave trade.

Yes, you said, and were shown to be quiet wrong,
actually one couldn't be more wrong than you still insist on.

Look Jews were heavily involved in the slave trade. FACT, get over it.

Well, that's already quiet different from what you initially claimed. You've tried to claim that Jews found and facilitated it all - but as we find out, on that first expedition from the west,
they were actually the first enslaved, not Africans.

Now "heavily" is a comparative statement, without any data to back up anything,
how do you measure that in comparison to any other group or part of a collective,
like for instance in comparison to the 112 million African slaves supplied to all those
markets continuously for the last 1400 years by the expanding Muslim slave traders?

You say "heavy", I don't see even a tenth, in fact according the data,
the entire western world - combined, didn't reach even tenth of the Muslim slave trade.

So again "heavily" might be your narrative,
but far from any proportion of reality or context.

 

[Mindful]

Jews were heavily involved on the slave trade.

You mean like other members of the human race?

Rylah, you don’t know how I meant that.

 

[AMart]

Jews were heavily involved on the slave trade.

You mean like other members of the human race?

Sure, so what.

 

[surada]

In 1619, the Dutch introduced the first captured Africans to America, planting the seeds of a slavery system that evolved into a nightmare of abuse and cruelty that would ultimately divide the nation.

Although not taught in school, it was the Dutch Jews who started and ran the African slave trade in both North and South America. ....

Portuguese Jews financed the first W. African expedition and built the first sugar plantations off of the coast of W. Africa. An Island they named Sao Tome around 1470.

Álvaro Caminha founded the colony of São Tomé in 1493. The Portuguese came to São Tomé in search of land to grow sugarcane. The island was uninhabited before the arrival of the Portuguese sometime around 1470. São Tomé, situated about 40 kilometres (25 mi) north of the equator, had a climate wet enough to grow sugarcane in wild abundance. 2,000 Jewish children, eight years old and under, were taken from the Iberian peninsula for work on the sugar plantations.[2]

Príncipe was settled in 1500 under a similar arrangement. Attracting settlers proved difficult, however, and most of the earliest inhabitants were "undesirables" sent from Portugal, mostly Jews.

São Tomé - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Financed? More like kicked off and taken into slavery during Inquisition.

That was 30 years after the first financed expedition in which the island was discovered. It is well known that Portugal made Jews convert or they had to leave. That started in 1496-97.

Exactly, and the first expedition was in 1493, Álvaro Caminha founded the colony,
after in 1942 (rings familiar?) king John II of Portugal appointed him governor,
sending 2,000 Jewish kids, 8 and below, to work on plantations - as slaves.

Do you need this explained on fingers?

So what. I said Jews financed the first expeditions to W. Africa. Jews were heavily involved on the slave trade.

Yes, you said, and were shown to be quiet wrong,
actually one couldn't be more wrong than you still insist on.

Look Jews were heavily involved in the slave trade. FACT, get over it.

Well, that's already quiet different from what you initially claimed.

Now "heavily" is a comparative statement, without any data to back up anything,
how do you measure that in comparison to any other group or part of a collective,
like for instance in comparison to the 112 million African slaves supplied to all those
markets continuously for the last 1400 years by the expanding Muslim slave traders?

You say "heavy", I don't see even a tenth, in fact according the data,
the entire western world - combined, didn't reach even tenth of the Muslim slave trade.

So again "heavily" might be your narrative,
but far from any proportion of reality or context.

Look at the list of slave ship owners.

 

[AMart]

In 1619, the Dutch introduced the first captured Africans to America, planting the seeds of a slavery system that evolved into a nightmare of abuse and cruelty that would ultimately divide the nation.

Although not taught in school, it was the Dutch Jews who started and ran the African slave trade in both North and South America. ....

Portuguese Jews financed the first W. African expedition and built the first sugar plantations off of the coast of W. Africa. An Island they named Sao Tome around 1470.

Álvaro Caminha founded the colony of São Tomé in 1493. The Portuguese came to São Tomé in search of land to grow sugarcane. The island was uninhabited before the arrival of the Portuguese sometime around 1470. São Tomé, situated about 40 kilometres (25 mi) north of the equator, had a climate wet enough to grow sugarcane in wild abundance. 2,000 Jewish children, eight years old and under, were taken from the Iberian peninsula for work on the sugar plantations.[2]

Príncipe was settled in 1500 under a similar arrangement. Attracting settlers proved difficult, however, and most of the earliest inhabitants were "undesirables" sent from Portugal, mostly Jews.

São Tomé - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Financed? More like kicked off and taken into slavery during Inquisition.

That was 30 years after the first financed expedition in which the island was discovered. It is well known that Portugal made Jews convert or they had to leave. That started in 1496-97.

Exactly, and the first expedition was in 1493, Álvaro Caminha founded the colony,
after in 1942 (rings familiar?) king John II of Portugal appointed him governor,
sending 2,000 Jewish kids, 8 and below, to work on plantations - as slaves.

Do you need this explained on fingers?

So what. I said Jews financed the first expeditions to W. Africa. Jews were heavily involved on the slave trade.

Yes, you said, and were shown to be quiet wrong,
actually one couldn't be more wrong than you still insist on.

Look Jews were heavily involved in the slave trade. FACT, get over it.

Well, that's already quiet different from what you initially claimed.

Now "heavily" is a comparative statement, without any data to back up anything,
how do you measure that in comparison to any other group or part of a collective,
like for instance in comparison to the 112 million African slaves supplied to all those
markets continuously for the last 1400 years by the expanding Muslim slave traders?

You say "heavy", I don't see even a tenth, in fact according the data,
the entire western world - combined, didn't reach even tenth of the Muslim slave trade.

So again "heavily" might be your narrative,
but far from any proportion of reality or context.

112 million African slaves were not sold during that era.

 

[Mindful]

Jews were heavily involved on the slave trade.

You mean like other members of the human race?

Sure, so what.

So everything.

You’re too thick to understand

 

[surada]

In 1619, the Dutch introduced the first captured Africans to America, planting the seeds of a slavery system that evolved into a nightmare of abuse and cruelty that would ultimately divide the nation.

Although not taught in school, it was the Dutch Jews who started and ran the African slave trade in both North and South America. ....

Portuguese Jews financed the first W. African expedition and built the first sugar plantations off of the coast of W. Africa. An Island they named Sao Tome around 1470.

Álvaro Caminha founded the colony of São Tomé in 1493. The Portuguese came to São Tomé in search of land to grow sugarcane. The island was uninhabited before the arrival of the Portuguese sometime around 1470. São Tomé, situated about 40 kilometres (25 mi) north of the equator, had a climate wet enough to grow sugarcane in wild abundance. 2,000 Jewish children, eight years old and under, were taken from the Iberian peninsula for work on the sugar plantations.[2]

Príncipe was settled in 1500 under a similar arrangement. Attracting settlers proved difficult, however, and most of the earliest inhabitants were "undesirables" sent from Portugal, mostly Jews.

São Tomé - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Financed? More like kicked off and taken into slavery during Inquisition.

That was 30 years after the first financed expedition in which the island was discovered. It is well known that Portugal made Jews convert or they had to leave. That started in 1496-97.

Exactly, and the first expedition was in 1493, Álvaro Caminha founded the colony,
after in 1942 (rings familiar?) king John II of Portugal appointed him governor,
sending 2,000 Jewish kids, 8 and below, to work on plantations - as slaves.

Do you need this explained on fingers?

So what. I said Jews financed the first expeditions to W. Africa. Jews were heavily involved on the slave trade.

Yes, you said, and were shown to be quiet wrong,
actually one couldn't be more wrong than you still insist on.

Look Jews were heavily involved in the slave trade. FACT, get over it.

Well, that's already quiet different from what you initially claimed.

Now "heavily" is a comparative statement, without any data to back up anything,
how do you measure that in comparison to any other group or part of a collective,
like for instance in comparison to the 112 million African slaves supplied to all those
markets continuously for the last 1400 years by the expanding Muslim slave traders?

You say "heavy", I don't see even a tenth, in fact according the data,
the entire western world - combined, didn't reach even tenth of the Muslim slave trade.

So again "heavily" might be your narrative,
but far from any proportion of reality or context.

You've tried to claim Jews established it all - but as we find out, on that first expedition from the west, they were the first enslaved, not Africans.

What else might you misunderstand so grotesquely?

When the Dutch and Portuguese lost out to the English, the Jewish Plantation owners in Recif fled to New Amsterdam .. I think it was 15 families and their slaves.. The rest settled around the Caribbean.

 

[AMart]

In 1619, the Dutch introduced the first captured Africans to America, planting the seeds of a slavery system that evolved into a nightmare of abuse and cruelty that would ultimately divide the nation.

Although not taught in school, it was the Dutch Jews who started and ran the African slave trade in both North and South America. ....

Portuguese Jews financed the first W. African expedition and built the first sugar plantations off of the coast of W. Africa. An Island they named Sao Tome around 1470.

Álvaro Caminha founded the colony of São Tomé in 1493. The Portuguese came to São Tomé in search of land to grow sugarcane. The island was uninhabited before the arrival of the Portuguese sometime around 1470. São Tomé, situated about 40 kilometres (25 mi) north of the equator, had a climate wet enough to grow sugarcane in wild abundance. 2,000 Jewish children, eight years old and under, were taken from the Iberian peninsula for work on the sugar plantations.[2]

Príncipe was settled in 1500 under a similar arrangement. Attracting settlers proved difficult, however, and most of the earliest inhabitants were "undesirables" sent from Portugal, mostly Jews.

São Tomé - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Financed? More like kicked off and taken into slavery during Inquisition.

That was 30 years after the first financed expedition in which the island was discovered. It is well known that Portugal made Jews convert or they had to leave. That started in 1496-97.

Exactly, and the first expedition was in 1493, Álvaro Caminha founded the colony,
after in 1942 (rings familiar?) king John II of Portugal appointed him governor,
sending 2,000 Jewish kids, 8 and below, to work on plantations - as slaves.

Do you need this explained on fingers?

So what. I said Jews financed the first expeditions to W. Africa. Jews were heavily involved on the slave trade.

Yes, you said, and were shown to be quiet wrong,
actually one couldn't be more wrong than you still insist on.

Look Jews were heavily involved in the slave trade. FACT, get over it.

Well, that's already quiet different from what you initially claimed.

Now "heavily" is a comparative statement, without any data to back up anything,
how do you measure that in comparison to any other group or part of a collective,
like for instance in comparison to the 112 million African slaves supplied to all those
markets continuously for the last 1400 years by the expanding Muslim slave traders?

You say "heavy", I don't see even a tenth, in fact according the data,
the entire western world - combined, didn't reach even tenth of the Muslim slave trade.

So again "heavily" might be your narrative,
but far from any proportion of reality or context.

You've tried to claim Jews established it all - but as we find out, on that first expedition from the west, they were the first enslaved, not Africans.

What else might you misunderstand so grotesquely?

When the Dutch and Portuguese lost out to the English, the Jewish Plantation owners in Recif fled to New Amsterdam .. I think it was 15 families and their slaves.. The rest settled around the Caribbean.

The dominant New Christian and crypto–Jewish presence in Portuguese commerce came to an abrupt end towards the end of the sixteenth century when Portugal began to persecute its baptized Jews and recent converts from Judaism. The Inquisition had been active in Portugal since 1547, but its actions became more severe once the King of Spain, Philip II, ascended to the Portuguese throne. The results of this religious cleansing were disastrous: “The main change between the mid-sixteenth century and the mid-eighteenth century was that the Portuguese merchants had disappeared as a commercial force.” (Shaw 1989: 416) The Portuguese New Christians took up residence first in the colonies such as Angola and Brazil and, when living there became difficult or impossible, in the port cities of Italy, France, the Low Countries, England, and in some Hanseatic cities. The dispersion of New Christian families to Madeira, São Tomé, Angola, Brazil and the trading cities of Northwest Europe turned out to be a commercial blessing in disguise. The diaspora of the New Christians coincided with the development of the second Atlantic system of trade and settlement, and the New Christians (in some cases returning to Judaism) were the first to exploit the new economic opportunities by transferring to the second system an important percentage of the trade in goods and slaves between Portugal and West Africa and Angola, the production, transport, and sale of cash crops from Brazil, and the slave trade between Africa and the New World (Ebben 1996: 111-113).

e-journal of Portuguese History

www.brown.edu

 

[surada]

Jews were heavily involved on the slave trade.

You mean like other members of the human race?

 

[Mindful]

Jews were heavily involved on the slave trade.

You mean like other members of the human race?

I’m not getting into this obsessive zealotry.

It’s nothing to do with the OP.

Thanks for trashing the thread.

 

[rylah]

In 1619, the Dutch introduced the first captured Africans to America, planting the seeds of a slavery system that evolved into a nightmare of abuse and cruelty that would ultimately divide the nation.

Although not taught in school, it was the Dutch Jews who started and ran the African slave trade in both North and South America. ....

Portuguese Jews financed the first W. African expedition and built the first sugar plantations off of the coast of W. Africa. An Island they named Sao Tome around 1470.

Álvaro Caminha founded the colony of São Tomé in 1493. The Portuguese came to São Tomé in search of land to grow sugarcane. The island was uninhabited before the arrival of the Portuguese sometime around 1470. São Tomé, situated about 40 kilometres (25 mi) north of the equator, had a climate wet enough to grow sugarcane in wild abundance. 2,000 Jewish children, eight years old and under, were taken from the Iberian peninsula for work on the sugar plantations.[2]

Príncipe was settled in 1500 under a similar arrangement. Attracting settlers proved difficult, however, and most of the earliest inhabitants were "undesirables" sent from Portugal, mostly Jews.

São Tomé - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Financed? More like kicked off and taken into slavery during Inquisition.

That was 30 years after the first financed expedition in which the island was discovered. It is well known that Portugal made Jews convert or they had to leave. That started in 1496-97.

Exactly, and the first expedition was in 1493, Álvaro Caminha founded the colony,
after in 1942 (rings familiar?) king John II of Portugal appointed him governor,
sending 2,000 Jewish kids, 8 and below, to work on plantations - as slaves.

Do you need this explained on fingers?

So what. I said Jews financed the first expeditions to W. Africa. Jews were heavily involved on the slave trade.

Yes, you said, and were shown to be quiet wrong,
actually one couldn't be more wrong than you still insist on.

Look Jews were heavily involved in the slave trade. FACT, get over it.

Well, that's already quiet different from what you initially claimed.

Now "heavily" is a comparative statement, without any data to back up anything,
how do you measure that in comparison to any other group or part of a collective,
like for instance in comparison to the 112 million African slaves supplied to all those
markets continuously for the last 1400 years by the expanding Muslim slave traders?

You say "heavy", I don't see even a tenth, in fact according the data,
the entire western world - combined, didn't reach even tenth of the Muslim slave trade.

So again "heavily" might be your narrative,
but far from any proportion of reality or context.

Look at the list of slave ship owners.

You keep implying in the air,
yet still no data showing slaves were supplied from anywhere but the Muslim slave traders.

 

[rylah]

Jews were heavily involved on the slave trade.

You mean like other members of the human race?

Oh a number, you've found - 14 Jewish names out of all ship owners in the history of slavery.

Now can you supply anything in comparison to backup your absurd claims about the part of Jews as a collective, compared to any other group, or maybe a list of the Arab tribes that supplied the entire world for the last 14 centuries dominating the African slave trade?

We both know you have neither guts nor the integrity to do that,
yet every African enslaved in the US - came exclusively from the Muslim slave markets.

 

[surada]

In 1619, the Dutch introduced the first captured Africans to America, planting the seeds of a slavery system that evolved into a nightmare of abuse and cruelty that would ultimately divide the nation.

Although not taught in school, it was the Dutch Jews who started and ran the African slave trade in both North and South America. ....

Portuguese Jews financed the first W. African expedition and built the first sugar plantations off of the coast of W. Africa. An Island they named Sao Tome around 1470.

Álvaro Caminha founded the colony of São Tomé in 1493. The Portuguese came to São Tomé in search of land to grow sugarcane. The island was uninhabited before the arrival of the Portuguese sometime around 1470. São Tomé, situated about 40 kilometres (25 mi) north of the equator, had a climate wet enough to grow sugarcane in wild abundance. 2,000 Jewish children, eight years old and under, were taken from the Iberian peninsula for work on the sugar plantations.[2]

Príncipe was settled in 1500 under a similar arrangement. Attracting settlers proved difficult, however, and most of the earliest inhabitants were "undesirables" sent from Portugal, mostly Jews.

São Tomé - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Financed? More like kicked off and taken into slavery during Inquisition.

That was 30 years after the first financed expedition in which the island was discovered. It is well known that Portugal made Jews convert or they had to leave. That started in 1496-97.

Exactly, and the first expedition was in 1493, Álvaro Caminha founded the colony,
after in 1942 (rings familiar?) king John II of Portugal appointed him governor,
sending 2,000 Jewish kids, 8 and below, to work on plantations - as slaves.

Do you need this explained on fingers?

So what. I said Jews financed the first expeditions to W. Africa. Jews were heavily involved on the slave trade.

Yes, you said, and were shown to be quiet wrong,
actually one couldn't be more wrong than you still insist on.

Look Jews were heavily involved in the slave trade. FACT, get over it.

Well, that's already quiet different from what you initially claimed.

Now "heavily" is a comparative statement, without any data to back up anything,
how do you measure that in comparison to any other group or part of a collective,
like for instance in comparison to the 112 million African slaves supplied to all those
markets continuously for the last 1400 years by the expanding Muslim slave traders?

You say "heavy", I don't see even a tenth, in fact according the data,
the entire western world - combined, didn't reach even tenth of the Muslim slave trade.

So again "heavily" might be your narrative,
but far from any proportion of reality or context.

Look at the list of slave ship owners.

You keep implying in the air,
yet still no data showing slaves were supplied from anywhere but the Muslim slave traders.

The ships took pots and pans, tools, booze and textiles to West Africa, traded for slaves from the local chieftains ... delivered the slaves to Brazil and headed for New Amsterdam with sugar, rum and guano.. Then back to the Hague or Amsterdam with sugar, dried Cod, rum and Indigo.

The Muslims operated in East Africa ... NOT in West Africa.

 

[surada]

Jews were heavily involved on the slave trade.

You mean like other members of the human race?

Oh a number, you've found - 14 Jewish names out of all ship owners in the history of slavery.

Now can you supply anything in comparison to backup you exaggeration about the part of Jews as a collective in this, compared to any other group, or maybe specifically the Arab tribes that supplied the entire world for 14 centuries dominating the Muslim slave trade?

We both know you have neither the guts nor integrity.

That's a partial list. The Arabs were not active in West Africa.

 

[rylah]

Jews were heavily involved on the slave trade.

You mean like other members of the human race?

Oh a number, you've found - 14 Jewish names out of all ship owners in the history of slavery.

Now can you supply anything in comparison to backup you exaggeration about the part of Jews as a collective in this, compared to any other group, or maybe specifically the Arab tribes that supplied the entire world for 14 centuries dominating the Muslim slave trade?

We both know you have neither the guts nor integrity.

That's a partial list. The Arabs were not active in West Africa.

But you're afraid to list even a small part of those Arab tribes
that supplied the entire West, why all of a sudden so shy?

I wouldn't take your word for anything, and you still miss the point, it doesn't matter if they were as active in West Africa, nevertheless if they were, the number of Africans traded by Muslims would be much higher than the 112 million in the Middle East alone,
and the 11 million they've sold to Americas.

The sheer magnitude of slavery in the Muslim world,
is incomparable, by a large margin, to any other civilization.

 

[AMart]

Jews were heavily involved on the slave trade.

You mean like other members of the human race?

Oh a number, you've found - 14 Jewish names out of all ship owners in the history of slavery.

Now can you supply anything in comparison to backup you exaggeration about the part of Jews as a collective in this, compared to any other group, or maybe specifically the Arab tribes that supplied the entire world for 14 centuries dominating the Muslim slave trade?

We both know you have neither the guts nor integrity.

That's a partial list. The Arabs were not active in West Africa.

But you're afraid to list even a small part of those Arab tribes
that supplied the entire West, why all of a sudden so shy?

I wouldn't take your word for anything, and you still miss the point, it doesn't matter if they were as active in West Africa or not, nevertheless if they were, the number of Africans traded by Muslims would be much higher than the 112 million in the Middle East alone.

The sheer magnitude of slavery in the Muslim world,
is incomparable, by a large margin, to any other civilization.

Jews are a tiny minority globally so of course, relative to gross #s, there was much more Arabic Muslim slave trading. But as it relates to % of the population Jews were heavily involved even in N. Africa where many Jews emigrated to. Also explains why the only good slave manuscripts still in existence in Egypt today are in a Synagogue. In the 1300's-1400's about 1/2 of the slaves in Cairo were Black and the other 1/2 Euro whites according the Jew documents.

 

[surada]

Jews were heavily involved on the slave trade.

You mean like other members of the human race?

Oh a number, you've found - 14 Jewish names out of all ship owners in the history of slavery.

Now can you supply anything in comparison to backup you exaggeration about the part of Jews as a collective in this, compared to any other group, or maybe specifically the Arab tribes that supplied the entire world for 14 centuries dominating the Muslim slave trade?

We both know you have neither the guts nor integrity.

That's a partial list. The Arabs were not active in West Africa.

But you're afraid to list even a small part of those Arab tribes
that supplied the entire West, why all of a sudden so shy?

I wouldn't take your word for anything, and you still miss the point, it doesn't matter if they were as active in West Africa, nevertheless if they were, the number of Africans traded by Muslims would be much higher than the 112 million in the Middle East alone,
and the 11 million they've sold to Americas.

The sheer magnitude of slavery in the Muslim world,
is incomparable, by a large margin, to any other civilization.

The Arabs had NOTHING to do with the West African slave trade.

 

[rylah]

Jews were heavily involved on the slave trade.

You mean like other members of the human race?

Oh a number, you've found - 14 Jewish names out of all ship owners in the history of slavery.

Now can you supply anything in comparison to backup you exaggeration about the part of Jews as a collective in this, compared to any other group, or maybe specifically the Arab tribes that supplied the entire world for 14 centuries dominating the Muslim slave trade?

We both know you have neither the guts nor integrity.

That's a partial list. The Arabs were not active in West Africa.

But you're afraid to list even a small part of those Arab tribes
that supplied the entire West, why all of a sudden so shy?

I wouldn't take your word for anything, and you still miss the point, it doesn't matter if they were as active in West Africa or not, nevertheless if they were, the number of Africans traded by Muslims would be much higher than the 112 million in the Middle East alone.

The sheer magnitude of slavery in the Muslim world,
is incomparable, by a large margin, to any other civilization.

Jews are a tiny minority globally so of course, relative to gross #s, there was much more Arabic Muslim slave trading. But as it relates to % of the population Jews were heavily involved even in N. Africa where many Jews emigrated to. Also explains why the only good slave manuscripts still in existence in Egypt today are in a Synagogue. In the 1300's-1400's about 1/2 of the slaves in Cairo were Black and the other 1/2 Euro whites according the Jew documents.

What documents?