daveman
Diamond Member
My views are pretty unambiguous. If you have any questions, just ask. But DON'T tell me there's nothing in what I say. It's no concern of mine that you don't like it.It's really not my fault that you don't pay attention.The Founding Fathers were born in what was called the Age of Reason. That's were people think logically about things. I don't hear you ever saying things about conservativism, it's always some partisan snipe against liberals. I doubt if you even know them and what you spend so much of your time addressing is your concept of a group of people.
Indeed. And if you do some research, you'll find the Founding Fathers were classical liberals who supported personal liberty and limited government -- exactly like today's conservatives, and the polar opposite of today's liberals.It isn't that hard to research the history of what the Founder Fathers did in the Bill of Rights, but you aren't going to find it in sites that have a formed opinion and are only cherry picking points to support that opinion.
If you listen only to the leftist echo chambers, you'll learn that today's liberals are EXACTLY the same as the Founding Fathers. The only evidence to support this assertion, besides petulant foot-stamping, is the fact that "classical Liberals" and "modern Liberals" both share some letters.
Do you see what I mean? You can't say what you believe and always talk about what the other person believes. There is very little content in what you say.
Did you have a point?The Founding Father were almost unanimous in not wanting a standing army. Do you think that would fly today? Madison vetoed a bill a national bank, and the issue is what defined anti-federalists, and then that same year sent a message to Congress to pass a bill for a national bank. That's the bank that Jackson stopped funding before it's charter ran out. Jefferson agreed to purchase the Louisiana Purchase and stated he didn't believe a President had that authority. You see originally the United States was just trying to buy the port of New Orleans to insure goods could pass through the port.
The Founding Fathers had principles, but they weren't stubborn men holding to principle over reality.