The Rise of the Liberal Hawks

[surada]

Cool so you think it's a good thing that our military rejects the notion of making our country great again. Got it.

Jingles are not substantive.. The military can see through Trump.

 

[surada]

Kinda like Birthers, Benghazi, Pizzagate, 911 deniers, Seth Rich, Epstein's suicide, the Clinton Murder Inc. and all Dems are groomers and wannabe pedophiles eh?

But just for you:

Trump Said He Wanted Generals to Be Loyal to Him Like Nazis Were to Hitler: Report

Former President Trump said he wanted his generals to be as loyal as Nazi generals were to Hitler, according to an excerpt from a new book.

www.rollingstone.com

There’s plenty of evidence that Donald Trump wanted to be treated like a dictator, that he frequently butted heads with military leaders, and that his ignorance of history knew no bounds. It shouldn’t be that surprising, then, how the former president reached back to World War II in trying to explain the kind of absolute loyalty he expected from America’s generals.
According to an excerpt from The Divider: Trump in the White House, 2017-2021 published in The New Yorker on Monday, Trump once griped to then-White House Chief of Staff John Kelly about what he perceived as disloyal generals. “You fucking generals, why can’t you be like the German generals?”
“Which generals?” Kelly responded.
“The German generals in World War II,” said Trump.
Kelly then reminded the president of the failed assassination attempts against Hitler by his subordinates. “You do know that they tried to kill Hitler three times and almost pulled it off?” Kelly said.
But Trump, of course, insisted otherwise. “No, no, no, they were totally loyal to him,” he said.


When asked to comment by the New Yorker, Trump reiterated prior complaints. “These were very untalented people and once I realized it, I did not rely on them, I relied on the real generals and admirals within the system,” he said.
Trump has pined for the kind of loyalty shown to other dictators, as well. While praising Kim Jong-un in 2018, Trump said he wanted “my people” to treat him the same way North Koreans treat that nation’s murderous head of state. “He’s the head of a country, and I mean, he’s the strong head, don’t let anyone think anything different,” Trump told Fox News. “He speaks and his people sit up at attention. I want my people to do the same.”

Great post. Trump would insist the generals were loyal to Hitler.

FYI

Trump suggests the Mar-a-Lago documents were bound for his library. But advisers say he's rarely talked about it.

As an ex-president bent on being a future president, Trump hasn’t wanted to leave an impression that his focus has shifted to his legacy, some close to him say.

www.nbcnews.com

 

[surada]

John Kelly told the lie about Trump back in 2018. Kelly was proven to be lying cvnt as dozens of witnesses contradicted his story as did the transcripts of meetings. Buy you Nazis and your filthy lying press continue to promote such lies to this day. Why? You fear that you are losing power.

Also Mein Herr, are you claiming Benghazi didn't happen? That the little Goebbels and the Obama regime didn't blame it on an internet video (that it was on the anniversary 9/11 - the proudest victory for those like surada Hezbollah Hannah is just a coincidence) - in fact Obama's thugs threw the poor blogger in prison to back up their lie.

But the Reich has erased Benghazi from history - so you will swear it never happened.

Heil Biden,

Everyone knows about Benghazi except you.

 

[Mushroom]

They all resulted in things we had no business being involved in.

We have no business assisting another country that asks for it?

Well, better never ask anybody for help then. Not even the cops. They have no business meddling in your affairs.

 

[Winco]

Excellent article detailing the military's shift to the Left after Trump.

Here is how I see the screams from the Alt-Right.

1). The Military Absolutely supports trump, or (R), until they don't.
2). Hispanic's are changing their votes to (R), but that defeats the ENTIRE fake news message that the (D) (Biden) are letting Illegals (Hispanics) across the Border to win the election.

 

[frigidweirdo]

Cool so you think it's a good thing that our military rejects the notion of making our country great again. Got it.

If "great again" is what Trump gives you..... I'd hate to see what bad looks like.

 

[pknopp]

We have no business assisting another country that asks for it?

Well, better never ask anybody for help then. Not even the cops. They have no business meddling in your affairs.

I'm pretty sure Iran never asked us to overthrow their government.

 

[Uncensored2008]

Everyone knows about Benghazi except you.

You better tell your fellow traveler EvilEyeFleegle

 

[Uncensored2008]

Here is how I see the screams from the Alt-Right.

Yes, but you are abysmally stupid - as those of the Alt-Left tend to be.

1). The Military Absolutely supports trump, or (R), until they don't.
2). Hispanic's are changing their votes to (R), but that defeats the ENTIRE fake news message that the (D) (Biden) are letting Illegals (Hispanics) across the Border to win the election.

Poor little fascist - is the importation of 10's of millions of illegals not the guarantee of power Teddy said it would be?

You Blue-Anon morons don't know how to deal with Hispanics not being like blacks and voting in unison.

 

[EvilEyeFleegle]

You better tell your fellow traveler EvilEyeFleegle

The Benghazi that YOU know is a conspiracy fantasy. The one we know is a tragedy...compounded by the self-serving lies of the right.

 

[Uncensored2008]

The Benghazi that YOU know is a conspiracy fantasy. The one we know is a tragedy...compounded by the self-serving lies of the right.

Because of an internet video, right Herr Himmler?

 

[whitehall]

Eisenhower got us involved in Vietnam.

Ike got us out of the quagmire that timid little Harry Truman didn't have the guts to deal with in Korea. We lost about 50,000 Americans in three years because of his negligence. LBJ sent Troops to Vietnam with a faked "crisis" that the media failed to investigate and set the rules that we could win every battle and lose the freaking war.

 

[pknopp]

Ike got us out of the quagmire that timid little Harry Truman didn't have the guts to deal with in Korea. We lost about 50,000 Americans in three years because of his negligence. LBJ sent Troops to Vietnam with a faked "crisis" that the media failed to investigate and set the rules that we could win every battle and lose the freaking war.

I don't disagree with any of that but it doesn't make what I said false.

 

[Mushroom]

I'm pretty sure Iran never asked us to overthrow their government.

Oh lord, that yet again.

I assume you are talking about 1953, right? Where Iran was in the middle of a coup?

Which by the way, was staged by Mohammad Mosaddegh. Who was the Prime Minister, and as stated in the Iranian Constitution served at the pleasure of the Shah. Who in an election where they tried to steal Parliament by ending votes as soon as they had a majority quorum in 1952. And with that illegal quorum then cancelled all future elections, including those for seats unfulfilled in the cancelled 1952 election.

Who then almost immediately tried to pass legislation removing the Shah from the throne and declaring he was the head of state.

Surely you are talking about that overthrow. And not the one that saw increasing popular unrest, most of that rump parliament abdicating their positions, then the Shah himself taking power once again.

It always amazes me how people scream that the Shah taking control of his own government after one of the most clear examples of voter fraud and manipulation is then somehow called an "elected government". That literally would be like taking the first 20 states who turned in results, and say 2/3 of them were Republican. Then the President simply saying that decided the election, and cancelling the election and having it stand with only those states counted.

What you had in the "1953 Coup" was the aftermath of a Prime Minister that unconstitutionally tried to overthrow the government himself. However, he was a far-Leftist, and many suspect a closet Marxist. Therefore, he was obviously the "good guy", and who cares if the election was a fraud. He was still elected, right?

But please, feel free to look up the administration of Prime Minister Mohammad Mosaddegh. His declaration of emergency powers which made him basically a dictator. His manipulating the election and cancelling it the moment he had a quorum of his own party. About how towards the end he tried to force through a new Constitution that was just an attempt to name himself a dictator.

Hell, the entire population of Iran was up in arms against him for that and other things. And one of the few cases where the Royalists and the Socialists marched together in protest. Mohammad Mosaddegh had put the country under Martial Law for months, but the military largely ignored him and said he had no legal authority.

Yet, some fools seem to think that the Constitutional Leader of the nation finally stepping in and pushing such people aside is a "coup".

 

[pknopp]

Oh lord, that yet again.

I assume you are talking about 1953, right? Where Iran was in the middle of a coup?

Which by the way, was staged by Mohammad Mosaddegh. Who was the Prime Minister, and as stated in the Iranian Constitution served at the pleasure of the Shah. Who in an election where they tried to steal Parliament by ending votes as soon as they had a majority quorum in 1952. And with that illegal quorum then cancelled all future elections, including those for seats unfulfilled in the cancelled 1952 election.

Who then almost immediately tried to pass legislation removing the Shah from the throne and declaring he was the head of state.

Surely you are talking about that overthrow. And not the one that saw increasing popular unrest, most of that rump parliament abdicating their positions, then the Shah himself taking power once again.

It always amazes me how people scream that the Shah taking control of his own government after one of the most clear examples of voter fraud and manipulation is then somehow called an "elected government". That literally would be like taking the first 20 states who turned in results, and say 2/3 of them were Republican. Then the President simply saying that decided the election, and cancelling the election and having it stand with only those states counted.

What you had in the "1953 Coup" was the aftermath of a Prime Minister that unconstitutionally tried to overthrow the government himself. However, he was a far-Leftist, and many suspect a closet Marxist. Therefore, he was obviously the "good guy", and who cares if the election was a fraud. He was still elected, right?

But please, feel free to look up the administration of Prime Minister Mohammad Mosaddegh. His declaration of emergency powers which made him basically a dictator. His manipulating the election and cancelling it the moment he had a quorum of his own party. About how towards the end he tried to force through a new Constitution that was just an attempt to name himself a dictator.

Hell, the entire population of Iran was up in arms against him for that and other things. And one of the few cases where the Royalists and the Socialists marched together in protest. Mohammad Mosaddegh had put the country under Martial Law for months, but the military largely ignored him and said he had no legal authority.

Yet, some fools seem to think that the Constitutional Leader of the nation finally stepping in and pushing such people aside is a "coup".

None of it was any of our business to get involved in. Period.

CIA-assisted coup overthrows government of Iran

 

[Mushroom]

None of it was any of our business to get involved in. Period.

CIA-assisted coup overthrows government of Iran

It helps if you look for non-biased sources.

Of course, many seem to love the image of the CIA stepping in and taking over the Government. Never mind that the head of state before and after was the Shah. And he himself stepped in when the illegal Parliament tried to force him to abdicate and turn over control of the military to Mossadegh.

 

[whitehall]

JFK (illegally) used the CIA to raise and train and equip an invasion army to overthrow the Cuban government. The media was part of Camelot so there was no investigation.

 

[pknopp]

It helps if you look for non-biased sources.

Of course, many seem to love the image of the CIA stepping in and taking over the Government. Never mind that the head of state before and after was the Shah. And he himself stepped in when the illegal Parliament tried to force him to abdicate and turn over control of the military to Mossadegh.

Right, our hands were clean. We did nothing.


Lol

 

[Mushroom]

JFK (illegally) used the CIA to raise and train and equip an invasion army to overthrow the Cuban government. The media was part of Camelot so there was no investigation.

Actually, that was President Eisenhower.

 

[Uncensored2008]

I don't disagree with any of that but it doesn't make what I said false.

George Marshall got us involved in Vietnam. Johnson lied it into a war.