The right was of course RIGHT. CDC finds no evidence of virus transmission in schools

[postman]

Yeah, im the "ignorant" one when you are claiming there are amendments that give the federal govt power to send citizens checks over a virus and regulate public schools

There were no such amendments. That power is inherent from the general welfare clause.

 

[TNHarley]

What amendments give the federal govt power to send individuals stimulus money, money to schools, money to states for failed governing etc?

Actually it's right in the original constitution, in the general welfare clause.

The general welfare clause can only be practiced through other enumerated powers. If not, your idiotic statement would mean the constitution itself is redundant.

 

[TNHarley]

There were no such amendments.

According to Pk, you are ignorant

 

[postman]

The general welfare clause can only be practiced through other enumerated powers. If not, your idiotic statement would mean the constitution itself is redundant.

The general welfare clause is a power.

The Constitution outlines four major types of power: enumerated, implied, inherent, and prohibited.

In the United States federal government, the term “implied powers” applies to those powers exercised by Congress that are not expressly granted to it by the Constitution but are deemed “necessary and proper” to effectively execute those constitutionally granted powers

Congress has exclusive authority over financial and budgetary matters, through the enumerated power to lay and collect taxes, duties, imposts and excises, to pay the debts and provide for the common defense and general welfare of the United States

 

[postman]

There were no such amendments.

According to Pk, you are ignorant

Some people think that amendments were needed, such at the 16th in order to impose an income tax. But no amendments were needed to increase congresses power to promote the general welfare.

 

[L.K.Eder]

To try to reopen schools, Biden has asked Congress for $130 billion to offset costs and has promised better guidance from his administration on how to do so safely. President Donald Trump also pushed schools to open, though provided little guidance, data collection or funding to help them.

LOL

trump offered 150B to get schools to open a few months ago, foreigner.

yeah, sure. while trying to tie these funds to schools that open, and keep them from schools that do not. some solid guidance there.

Why would he give extra money, that is meant for schools to reopen, to schools that stay closed?
Did you even think that through, foreigner?

you should have asked this in july, when trump floated that turd.

This was just a few months ago.
Wrong again, foreigner.

sure, linkless wonder.

Trump's $1.8 trillion stimulus proposal faces opposition from Pelosi and Senate GOP - CNNPolitics

thanks for nothing.

here is a link actually concerned with school openings. from july.

Trump says White House requested $105 billion for school reopenings | CNN Politics

President Donald Trump said Thursday the White House has asked Congress to provide $105 billion to facilitate school reopenings and teased long-awaited additional US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention guidance on those reopenings that was posted on the agency's website Thursday afternoon...

edition.cnn.com

"Republicans in the Senate, who delayed the release of their stimulus plan Thursday, have dismissed Trump's call to withhold more federal aid from schools that remain shuttered during the coronavirus pandemic. "

 

[TNHarley]

To try to reopen schools, Biden has asked Congress for $130 billion to offset costs and has promised better guidance from his administration on how to do so safely. President Donald Trump also pushed schools to open, though provided little guidance, data collection or funding to help them.

LOL

trump offered 150B to get schools to open a few months ago, foreigner.

yeah, sure. while trying to tie these funds to schools that open, and keep them from schools that do not. some solid guidance there.

Why would he give extra money, that is meant for schools to reopen, to schools that stay closed?
Did you even think that through, foreigner?

you should have asked this in july, when trump floated that turd.

This was just a few months ago.
Wrong again, foreigner.

sure, linkless wonder.

Trump's $1.8 trillion stimulus proposal faces opposition from Pelosi and Senate GOP - CNNPolitics

thanks for nothing.

here is a link actually concerned with school openings. from july.

Trump says White House requested $105 billion for school reopenings | CNN Politics

President Donald Trump said Thursday the White House has asked Congress to provide $105 billion to facilitate school reopenings and teased long-awaited additional US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention guidance on those reopenings that was posted on the agency's website Thursday afternoon...

edition.cnn.com

"Republicans in the Senate, who delayed the release of their stimulus plan Thursday, have dismissed Trump's call to withhold more federal aid from schools that remain shuttered during the coronavirus pandemic. "

Not the same proposal. Good job on failing again, foreigner.

 

[L.K.Eder]

To try to reopen schools, Biden has asked Congress for $130 billion to offset costs and has promised better guidance from his administration on how to do so safely. President Donald Trump also pushed schools to open, though provided little guidance, data collection or funding to help them.

LOL

trump offered 150B to get schools to open a few months ago, foreigner.

yeah, sure. while trying to tie these funds to schools that open, and keep them from schools that do not. some solid guidance there.

Why would he give extra money, that is meant for schools to reopen, to schools that stay closed?
Did you even think that through, foreigner?

you should have asked this in july, when trump floated that turd.

This was just a few months ago.
Wrong again, foreigner.

sure, linkless wonder.

Trump's $1.8 trillion stimulus proposal faces opposition from Pelosi and Senate GOP - CNNPolitics

thanks for nothing.

here is a link actually concerned with school openings. from july.

Trump says White House requested $105 billion for school reopenings | CNN Politics

President Donald Trump said Thursday the White House has asked Congress to provide $105 billion to facilitate school reopenings and teased long-awaited additional US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention guidance on those reopenings that was posted on the agency's website Thursday afternoon...

edition.cnn.com

"Republicans in the Senate, who delayed the release of their stimulus plan Thursday, have dismissed Trump's call to withhold more federal aid from schools that remain shuttered during the coronavirus pandemic. "

Not the same proposal. Good job on failing again, foreigner.

please do the work and cite from your link the pertinent part, hero. LOL

 

[TNHarley]

The general welfare clause can only be practiced through other enumerated powers. If not, your idiotic statement would mean the constitution itself is redundant.

The general welfare clause is a power.

The Constitution outlines four major types of power: enumerated, implied, inherent, and prohibited.

In the United States federal government, the term “implied powers” applies to those powers exercised by Congress that are not expressly granted to it by the Constitution but are deemed “necessary and proper” to effectively execute those constitutionally granted powers

Congress has exclusive authority over financial and budgetary matters, through the enumerated power to lay and collect taxes, duties, imposts and excises, to pay the debts and provide for the common defense and general welfare of the United States

Implied powers doesnt exist.
The necessary and proper clause refers to powers that were listed. It fucking says it plain as day.
"make all laws which shall be necessary and proper for carrying into execution the foregoing powers, and all other powers vested by this constitution."

 

[TNHarley]

There were no such amendments.

According to Pk, you are ignorant

Some people think that amendments were needed, such at the 16th in order to impose an income tax. But no amendments were needed to increase congresses power to promote the general welfare.

Because the income tax was a "direct" tax
The 16th isnt even a real amendment. It was never ratified.

 

[AMart]

Yes we will but yes, you can't tell me 200 people in Wal Mart is OK but 15 in a bar is not.

The people in Walmart don't get in each others faces. Every drinker has some opinion they want to share with whoever will listen.

Everyone violates social distancing in these stores be that Wal Mart, Publix, Kroger. Now if you go at 7AM it might empty.

 

[postman]

Implied powers doesnt exist.
The necessary and proper clause refers to powers that were listed. It fucking says it plain as day.
"make all laws which shall be necessary and proper for carrying into execution the foregoing powers, and all other powers vested by this constitution."

and all other powers vested by this constitution."

 

[TNHarley]

Implied powers doesnt exist.
The necessary and proper clause refers to powers that were listed. It fucking says it plain as day.
"make all laws which shall be necessary and proper for carrying into execution the foregoing powers, and all other powers vested by this constitution."

and all other powers vested by this constitution."

Yes, thank you. Now you are getting it. Good job, bro!

 

[postman]

Because the income tax was a "direct" tax
The 16th isnt even a real amendment. It was never ratified.

Passed by Congress on July 2, 1909, and ratified February 3, 1913, the 16th amendment established Congress's right to impose a Federal income tax.

There were 48 states in the Union in 1913 — the year when the Sixteenth Amendment was finally ratified — which meant that the Amendment required ratification by the legislatures of 36 states to become effective. ... According to Congressional analysis, a total of 42 states had ratified the amendment as of 1992

 

[postman]

and all other powers vested by this constitution."

Yes, thank you. Now you are getting it. Good job, bro!

That includes the inherent, and implied.

 

[postman]

congresses power to exclude people from it's borders, is an inherent power.

 

[TNHarley]

Because the income tax was a "direct" tax
The 16th isnt even a real amendment. It was never ratified.

Passed by Congress on July 2, 1909, and ratified February 3, 1913, the 16th amendment established Congress's right to impose a Federal income tax. ... The financial requirements of the Civil War prompted the first American income tax in 1861.

16TH AMENDMENT – NEVER RATIFIED – Michael Ruark

 

[TNHarley]

and all other powers vested by this constitution."

Yes, thank you. Now you are getting it. Good job, bro!

That includes the inherent, and implied.

Implied doesnt even exist!

 

[TNHarley]

congresses power to exclude people from it's borders, is an inherent power.

They have a constitutional power to regulate naturalization.

 

[postman]

BTW: the 16th amendment had no time limit imposed for ratification (like the 27th) . And with 42 states ratifying it (you only needed 37) it has been ratified.