I don't believe I am. I believe I am making observations. The same observations that were made over the last hundred years by Le Bon, Frank, Bulgakov, Gurian and Shafarevich. Furthermore, Marcuse's incorporation of Fourier and Freud into the fabric of cultural marxism can only be seen as a religious element where man's guiding principles of life do not go beyond the satisfaction of material needs or primitive instincts which can only be seen as the deification of man. It is no accident that all of communism's rhetorical vows revolve around Man (with a capital M) and his earthly happiness. And finally... there has never been a communist state where atheism was not their religion.

Like most religious nuts, you assume that atheists are incapable of having guiding principles without a god to fear. The morals of an atheists are on a higher plane because they do so out of altruism not a fear of punishment
No. I am not assuming anything. I am making observations. Tell me what I have gotten wrong. That atheists don't believe that the only guiding principle is pleasure and satisfaction of primitive needs? No. I'm pretty sure they do. That atheists don't attack religious beliefs? No. I'm pretty sure they do. That atheists are not predominantly liberals? No. I'm pretty sure they are. That liberals are not inflamed by social issues? No. I'm pretty sure they are. That when people's elevate beliefs to a dogma and when those beliefs are attacked they respond like a religious fanatic who has had his religion attacked? No. I'm pretty sure they do. That liberals lack accountability and blame others? No. I'm pretty sure they do. That liberals don't tell others that their problems are because of rich people? No. I'm pretty sure they do. That liberals don't want to redistribute wealth? No. I'm pretty sure they do.
I have never seen an atheist go door to door attacking your religious beliefs. You problem lies with atheists objecting to you forcing your religious beliefs on them and their children.
Me either. Just in anonymous online forums. Maybe they are cowards. Now will you tell me what I have gotten wrong? That atheists don't believe that the only guiding principle is pleasure and satisfaction of primitive needs? No. I'm pretty sure they do. That atheists don't attack religious beliefs? No. I'm pretty sure they do. That atheists are not predominantly liberals? No. I'm pretty sure they are. That liberals are not inflamed by social issues? No. I'm pretty sure they are. That when people's elevate beliefs to a dogma and when those beliefs are attacked they respond like a religious fanatic who has had his religion attacked? No. I'm pretty sure they do. That liberals lack accountability and blame others? No. I'm pretty sure they do. That liberals don't tell others that their problems are because of rich people? No. I'm pretty sure they do. That liberals don't want to redistribute wealth? No. I'm pretty sure they do.

Well now, don't YOU have the gift of omniscience :lalala:

Wouldn't like that myself. Takes all the mystery out of life.
Maybe you can tell me what I have gotten wrong? That atheists don't believe that the only guiding principle is pleasure and satisfaction of primitive needs? No. I'm pretty sure they do. That atheists don't attack religious beliefs? No. I'm pretty sure they do. That atheists are not predominantly liberals? No. I'm pretty sure they are. That liberals are not inflamed by social issues? No. I'm pretty sure they are. That when people's elevate beliefs to a dogma and when those beliefs are attacked they respond like a religious fanatic who has had his religion attacked? No. I'm pretty sure they do. That liberals lack accountability and blame others? No. I'm pretty sure they do. That liberals don't tell others that their problems are because of rich people? No. I'm pretty sure they do. That liberals don't want to redistribute wealth? No. I'm pretty sure they do.
 
Seems you are creating a false satan of atheism.
Atheists don't have a dogma/religion....they just find your beliefs to be goofy.
It is not atheists going door to door to sell atheism. ISIS is not comprised of atheists.
I don't believe I am. I believe I am making observations. The same observations that were made over the last hundred years by Le Bon, Frank, Bulgakov, Gurian and Shafarevich. Furthermore, Marcuse's incorporation of Fourier and Freud into the fabric of cultural marxism can only be seen as a religious element where man's guiding principles of life do not go beyond the satisfaction of material needs or primitive instincts which can only be seen as the deification of man. It is no accident that all of communism's rhetorical vows revolve around Man (with a capital M) and his earthly happiness. And finally... there has never been a communist state where atheism was not their religion.

Like most religious nuts, you assume that atheists are incapable of having guiding principles without a god to fear. The morals of an atheists are on a higher plane because they do so out of altruism not a fear of punishment
No. I am not assuming anything. I am making observations. Tell me what I have gotten wrong. That atheists don't believe that the only guiding principle is pleasure and satisfaction of primitive needs? No. I'm pretty sure they do. That atheists don't attack religious beliefs? No. I'm pretty sure they do. That atheists are not predominantly liberals? No. I'm pretty sure they are. That liberals are not inflamed by social issues? No. I'm pretty sure they are. That when people's elevate beliefs to a dogma and when those beliefs are attacked they respond like a religious fanatic who has had his religion attacked? No. I'm pretty sure they do. That liberals lack accountability and blame others? No. I'm pretty sure they do. That liberals don't tell others that their problems are because of rich people? No. I'm pretty sure they do. That liberals don't want to redistribute wealth? No. I'm pretty sure they do.
I have never seen an atheist go door to door attacking your religious beliefs. You problem lies with atheists objecting to you forcing your religious beliefs on them and their children.
Me either. Just in anonymous online forums. Maybe they are cowards. Now will you tell me what I have gotten wrong? That atheists don't believe that the only guiding principle is pleasure and satisfaction of primitive needs? No. I'm pretty sure they do. That atheists don't attack religious beliefs? No. I'm pretty sure they do. That atheists are not predominantly liberals? No. I'm pretty sure they are. That liberals are not inflamed by social issues? No. I'm pretty sure they are. That when people's elevate beliefs to a dogma and when those beliefs are attacked they respond like a religious fanatic who has had his religion attacked? No. I'm pretty sure they do. That liberals lack accountability and blame others? No. I'm pretty sure they do. That liberals don't tell others that their problems are because of rich people? No. I'm pretty sure they do. That liberals don't want to redistribute wealth? No. I'm pretty sure they do.


That atheists don't believe that the only guiding principle is pleasure and satisfaction of primitive needs

Absolutely not true. Atheists have a strong moral code built on the golden rule. Atheists do the right thing because it is the right thing....not because they fear gods punishment


That atheists don't attack religious beliefs?

Look at this Religious board. Very few threads are created by atheists. It is religious nut cases who start threads about atheists. I will mock your religious beliefs if you start ridiculous threads like this


That atheists are not predominantly liberals?

Can't say it is true. Especially when you look at atheists around the world. I theorize many, many more conservatives are atheists than are willing to admit it


That liberals are not inflamed by social issues?

Has nothing to do with atheism


That when people's elevate beliefs to a dogma and when those beliefs are attacked they respond like a religious fanatic who has had his religion attacked?

You keep repeating that like it has some relevance. It is pure doggerel

That liberals don't tell others that their problems are because of rich people?

Has nothing to do with atheism

That liberals don't want to redistribute wealth?


Has nothing to do with atheism
 
I don't believe I am. I believe I am making observations. The same observations that were made over the last hundred years by Le Bon, Frank, Bulgakov, Gurian and Shafarevich. Furthermore, Marcuse's incorporation of Fourier and Freud into the fabric of cultural marxism can only be seen as a religious element where man's guiding principles of life do not go beyond the satisfaction of material needs or primitive instincts which can only be seen as the deification of man. It is no accident that all of communism's rhetorical vows revolve around Man (with a capital M) and his earthly happiness. And finally... there has never been a communist state where atheism was not their religion.

Like most religious nuts, you assume that atheists are incapable of having guiding principles without a god to fear. The morals of an atheists are on a higher plane because they do so out of altruism not a fear of punishment
No. I am not assuming anything. I am making observations. Tell me what I have gotten wrong. That atheists don't believe that the only guiding principle is pleasure and satisfaction of primitive needs? No. I'm pretty sure they do. That atheists don't attack religious beliefs? No. I'm pretty sure they do. That atheists are not predominantly liberals? No. I'm pretty sure they are. That liberals are not inflamed by social issues? No. I'm pretty sure they are. That when people's elevate beliefs to a dogma and when those beliefs are attacked they respond like a religious fanatic who has had his religion attacked? No. I'm pretty sure they do. That liberals lack accountability and blame others? No. I'm pretty sure they do. That liberals don't tell others that their problems are because of rich people? No. I'm pretty sure they do. That liberals don't want to redistribute wealth? No. I'm pretty sure they do.
I have never seen an atheist go door to door attacking your religious beliefs. You problem lies with atheists objecting to you forcing your religious beliefs on them and their children.
Me either. Just in anonymous online forums. Maybe they are cowards. Now will you tell me what I have gotten wrong? That atheists don't believe that the only guiding principle is pleasure and satisfaction of primitive needs? No. I'm pretty sure they do. That atheists don't attack religious beliefs? No. I'm pretty sure they do. That atheists are not predominantly liberals? No. I'm pretty sure they are. That liberals are not inflamed by social issues? No. I'm pretty sure they are. That when people's elevate beliefs to a dogma and when those beliefs are attacked they respond like a religious fanatic who has had his religion attacked? No. I'm pretty sure they do. That liberals lack accountability and blame others? No. I'm pretty sure they do. That liberals don't tell others that their problems are because of rich people? No. I'm pretty sure they do. That liberals don't want to redistribute wealth? No. I'm pretty sure they do.


That atheists don't believe that the only guiding principle is pleasure and satisfaction of primitive needs

Absolutely not true. Atheists have a strong moral code built on the golden rule. Atheists do the right thing because it is the right thing....not because they fear gods punishment


That atheists don't attack religious beliefs?

Look at this Religious board. Very few threads are created by atheists. It is religious nut cases who start threads about atheists. I will mock your religious beliefs if you start ridiculous threads like this


That atheists are not predominantly liberals?

Can't say it is true. Especially when you look at atheists around the world. I theorize many, many more conservatives are atheists than are willing to admit it


That liberals are not inflamed by social issues?

Has nothing to do with atheism


That when people's elevate beliefs to a dogma and when those beliefs are attacked they respond like a religious fanatic who has had his religion attacked?

You keep repeating that like it has some relevance. It is pure doggerel

That liberals don't tell others that their problems are because of rich people?

Has nothing to do with atheism

That liberals don't want to redistribute wealth?


Has nothing to do with atheism
Ok, then. So when I catch you doing these things I should bring this back up to you? As to the things you want to disassociate from atheism, I am afraid that I can't separate them as they are indelibly linked. As to your dismissal of the religious behavior of fanaticism, well that is the ultimate proof regardless if you acknowledge it or not.
 
Atheists are not all socialists but are just as deluded as theists, as there's no proof either way whether a god exists or not.

Agnosticism is the thinking person's position.

:thanks:
 
Atheists are not all socialists but are just as deluded as theists, as there's no proof either way whether a god exists or not.

Agnosticism is the thinking person's position.

:thanks:
"I don't care either one could be true" is a weak position actually, the easy way. It is a valid mindset though.

What about Deists are we socialists or fascists or what, put a label on it so I can laugh about it.
 
Atheists are not all socialists but are just as deluded as theists, as there's no proof either way whether a god exists or not.

Agnosticism is the thinking person's position.

:thanks:
"I don't care either one could be true" is a weak position actually, the easy way. It is a valid mindset though.

What about Deists are we socialists or fascists or what, put a label on it so I can laugh about it.
Actually, my position is that neither side has been proven, which they haven't. Making agnosticism the only logical position to hold.
Deists are simply people who can't think critically. But religion is slightly communist in that you have to follow the leader and everything he says 100% or there are very severe consequences, like roasting forever.
 
Atheists are not all socialists but are just as deluded as theists, as there's no proof either way whether a god exists or not.

Agnosticism is the thinking person's position.

:thanks:
But you are not an agnostic, you are an atheist. Let's test that... do you believe that the vast majority of atheists are liberal/progressive/socialistic?
 
Atheists are not all socialists but are just as deluded as theists, as there's no proof either way whether a god exists or not.

Agnosticism is the thinking person's position.

:thanks:
But you are not an agnostic, you are an atheist. Let's test that... do you believe that the vast majority of atheists are liberal/progressive/socialistic?
Politics and atheism are unrelated in that atheists don't all adhere to a specific political agenda.
I'm agnostic and I'm for smaller government and in general Republican policies (outside religion).
 
Like most religious nuts, you assume that atheists are incapable of having guiding principles without a god to fear. The morals of an atheists are on a higher plane because they do so out of altruism not a fear of punishment
No. I am not assuming anything. I am making observations. Tell me what I have gotten wrong. That atheists don't believe that the only guiding principle is pleasure and satisfaction of primitive needs? No. I'm pretty sure they do. That atheists don't attack religious beliefs? No. I'm pretty sure they do. That atheists are not predominantly liberals? No. I'm pretty sure they are. That liberals are not inflamed by social issues? No. I'm pretty sure they are. That when people's elevate beliefs to a dogma and when those beliefs are attacked they respond like a religious fanatic who has had his religion attacked? No. I'm pretty sure they do. That liberals lack accountability and blame others? No. I'm pretty sure they do. That liberals don't tell others that their problems are because of rich people? No. I'm pretty sure they do. That liberals don't want to redistribute wealth? No. I'm pretty sure they do.
I have never seen an atheist go door to door attacking your religious beliefs. You problem lies with atheists objecting to you forcing your religious beliefs on them and their children.
Me either. Just in anonymous online forums. Maybe they are cowards. Now will you tell me what I have gotten wrong? That atheists don't believe that the only guiding principle is pleasure and satisfaction of primitive needs? No. I'm pretty sure they do. That atheists don't attack religious beliefs? No. I'm pretty sure they do. That atheists are not predominantly liberals? No. I'm pretty sure they are. That liberals are not inflamed by social issues? No. I'm pretty sure they are. That when people's elevate beliefs to a dogma and when those beliefs are attacked they respond like a religious fanatic who has had his religion attacked? No. I'm pretty sure they do. That liberals lack accountability and blame others? No. I'm pretty sure they do. That liberals don't tell others that their problems are because of rich people? No. I'm pretty sure they do. That liberals don't want to redistribute wealth? No. I'm pretty sure they do.


That atheists don't believe that the only guiding principle is pleasure and satisfaction of primitive needs

Absolutely not true. Atheists have a strong moral code built on the golden rule. Atheists do the right thing because it is the right thing....not because they fear gods punishment


That atheists don't attack religious beliefs?

Look at this Religious board. Very few threads are created by atheists. It is religious nut cases who start threads about atheists. I will mock your religious beliefs if you start ridiculous threads like this


That atheists are not predominantly liberals?

Can't say it is true. Especially when you look at atheists around the world. I theorize many, many more conservatives are atheists than are willing to admit it


That liberals are not inflamed by social issues?

Has nothing to do with atheism


That when people's elevate beliefs to a dogma and when those beliefs are attacked they respond like a religious fanatic who has had his religion attacked?

You keep repeating that like it has some relevance. It is pure doggerel

That liberals don't tell others that their problems are because of rich people?

Has nothing to do with atheism

That liberals don't want to redistribute wealth?


Has nothing to do with atheism
Ok, then. So when I catch you doing these things I should bring this back up to you? As to the things you want to disassociate from atheism, I am afraid that I can't separate them as they are indelibly linked. As to your dismissal of the religious behavior of fanaticism, well that is the ultimate proof regardless if you acknowledge it or not.

It is your strawman that Atheism equates to liberalism

I am under no obligation to give it any credibility
 
No. I am not assuming anything. I am making observations. Tell me what I have gotten wrong. That atheists don't believe that the only guiding principle is pleasure and satisfaction of primitive needs? No. I'm pretty sure they do. That atheists don't attack religious beliefs? No. I'm pretty sure they do. That atheists are not predominantly liberals? No. I'm pretty sure they are. That liberals are not inflamed by social issues? No. I'm pretty sure they are. That when people's elevate beliefs to a dogma and when those beliefs are attacked they respond like a religious fanatic who has had his religion attacked? No. I'm pretty sure they do. That liberals lack accountability and blame others? No. I'm pretty sure they do. That liberals don't tell others that their problems are because of rich people? No. I'm pretty sure they do. That liberals don't want to redistribute wealth? No. I'm pretty sure they do.
I have never seen an atheist go door to door attacking your religious beliefs. You problem lies with atheists objecting to you forcing your religious beliefs on them and their children.
Me either. Just in anonymous online forums. Maybe they are cowards. Now will you tell me what I have gotten wrong? That atheists don't believe that the only guiding principle is pleasure and satisfaction of primitive needs? No. I'm pretty sure they do. That atheists don't attack religious beliefs? No. I'm pretty sure they do. That atheists are not predominantly liberals? No. I'm pretty sure they are. That liberals are not inflamed by social issues? No. I'm pretty sure they are. That when people's elevate beliefs to a dogma and when those beliefs are attacked they respond like a religious fanatic who has had his religion attacked? No. I'm pretty sure they do. That liberals lack accountability and blame others? No. I'm pretty sure they do. That liberals don't tell others that their problems are because of rich people? No. I'm pretty sure they do. That liberals don't want to redistribute wealth? No. I'm pretty sure they do.


That atheists don't believe that the only guiding principle is pleasure and satisfaction of primitive needs

Absolutely not true. Atheists have a strong moral code built on the golden rule. Atheists do the right thing because it is the right thing....not because they fear gods punishment


That atheists don't attack religious beliefs?

Look at this Religious board. Very few threads are created by atheists. It is religious nut cases who start threads about atheists. I will mock your religious beliefs if you start ridiculous threads like this


That atheists are not predominantly liberals?

Can't say it is true. Especially when you look at atheists around the world. I theorize many, many more conservatives are atheists than are willing to admit it


That liberals are not inflamed by social issues?

Has nothing to do with atheism


That when people's elevate beliefs to a dogma and when those beliefs are attacked they respond like a religious fanatic who has had his religion attacked?

You keep repeating that like it has some relevance. It is pure doggerel

That liberals don't tell others that their problems are because of rich people?

Has nothing to do with atheism

That liberals don't want to redistribute wealth?


Has nothing to do with atheism
Ok, then. So when I catch you doing these things I should bring this back up to you? As to the things you want to disassociate from atheism, I am afraid that I can't separate them as they are indelibly linked. As to your dismissal of the religious behavior of fanaticism, well that is the ultimate proof regardless if you acknowledge it or not.

It is your strawman that Atheism equates to liberalism

I am under no obligation to give it any credibility
Well... are you a liberal? Are you an atheist?
 
Atheists are not all socialists but are just as deluded as theists, as there's no proof either way whether a god exists or not.

Agnosticism is the thinking person's position.

:thanks:
But you are not an agnostic, you are an atheist. Let's test that... do you believe that the vast majority of atheists are liberal/progressive/socialistic?
Politics and atheism are unrelated in that atheists don't all adhere to a specific political agenda.
I'm agnostic and I'm for smaller government and in general Republican policies (outside religion).
You are not an agnostic. Are you a liberal?
 
I have never seen an atheist go door to door attacking your religious beliefs. You problem lies with atheists objecting to you forcing your religious beliefs on them and their children.
Me either. Just in anonymous online forums. Maybe they are cowards. Now will you tell me what I have gotten wrong? That atheists don't believe that the only guiding principle is pleasure and satisfaction of primitive needs? No. I'm pretty sure they do. That atheists don't attack religious beliefs? No. I'm pretty sure they do. That atheists are not predominantly liberals? No. I'm pretty sure they are. That liberals are not inflamed by social issues? No. I'm pretty sure they are. That when people's elevate beliefs to a dogma and when those beliefs are attacked they respond like a religious fanatic who has had his religion attacked? No. I'm pretty sure they do. That liberals lack accountability and blame others? No. I'm pretty sure they do. That liberals don't tell others that their problems are because of rich people? No. I'm pretty sure they do. That liberals don't want to redistribute wealth? No. I'm pretty sure they do.


That atheists don't believe that the only guiding principle is pleasure and satisfaction of primitive needs

Absolutely not true. Atheists have a strong moral code built on the golden rule. Atheists do the right thing because it is the right thing....not because they fear gods punishment


That atheists don't attack religious beliefs?

Look at this Religious board. Very few threads are created by atheists. It is religious nut cases who start threads about atheists. I will mock your religious beliefs if you start ridiculous threads like this


That atheists are not predominantly liberals?

Can't say it is true. Especially when you look at atheists around the world. I theorize many, many more conservatives are atheists than are willing to admit it


That liberals are not inflamed by social issues?

Has nothing to do with atheism


That when people's elevate beliefs to a dogma and when those beliefs are attacked they respond like a religious fanatic who has had his religion attacked?

You keep repeating that like it has some relevance. It is pure doggerel

That liberals don't tell others that their problems are because of rich people?

Has nothing to do with atheism

That liberals don't want to redistribute wealth?


Has nothing to do with atheism
Ok, then. So when I catch you doing these things I should bring this back up to you? As to the things you want to disassociate from atheism, I am afraid that I can't separate them as they are indelibly linked. As to your dismissal of the religious behavior of fanaticism, well that is the ultimate proof regardless if you acknowledge it or not.

It is your strawman that Atheism equates to liberalism

I am under no obligation to give it any credibility
Well... are you a liberal? Are you an atheist?
Good question...but it kind of blows apart your theory

I stopped believing in God when I was around 12....I had no political leanings one way or the other. I just knew what I was being told in church was bogus tripe for the gullible

By 18, I was solidly conservative. Voted for Reagan two times and Bush two times......yet, I still didn't believe in God

In the mid 90s, I soured on the Republicans.......atheism had nothing to do with it.
 
Me either. Just in anonymous online forums. Maybe they are cowards. Now will you tell me what I have gotten wrong? That atheists don't believe that the only guiding principle is pleasure and satisfaction of primitive needs? No. I'm pretty sure they do. That atheists don't attack religious beliefs? No. I'm pretty sure they do. That atheists are not predominantly liberals? No. I'm pretty sure they are. That liberals are not inflamed by social issues? No. I'm pretty sure they are. That when people's elevate beliefs to a dogma and when those beliefs are attacked they respond like a religious fanatic who has had his religion attacked? No. I'm pretty sure they do. That liberals lack accountability and blame others? No. I'm pretty sure they do. That liberals don't tell others that their problems are because of rich people? No. I'm pretty sure they do. That liberals don't want to redistribute wealth? No. I'm pretty sure they do.


That atheists don't believe that the only guiding principle is pleasure and satisfaction of primitive needs

Absolutely not true. Atheists have a strong moral code built on the golden rule. Atheists do the right thing because it is the right thing....not because they fear gods punishment


That atheists don't attack religious beliefs?

Look at this Religious board. Very few threads are created by atheists. It is religious nut cases who start threads about atheists. I will mock your religious beliefs if you start ridiculous threads like this


That atheists are not predominantly liberals?

Can't say it is true. Especially when you look at atheists around the world. I theorize many, many more conservatives are atheists than are willing to admit it


That liberals are not inflamed by social issues?

Has nothing to do with atheism


That when people's elevate beliefs to a dogma and when those beliefs are attacked they respond like a religious fanatic who has had his religion attacked?

You keep repeating that like it has some relevance. It is pure doggerel

That liberals don't tell others that their problems are because of rich people?

Has nothing to do with atheism

That liberals don't want to redistribute wealth?


Has nothing to do with atheism
Ok, then. So when I catch you doing these things I should bring this back up to you? As to the things you want to disassociate from atheism, I am afraid that I can't separate them as they are indelibly linked. As to your dismissal of the religious behavior of fanaticism, well that is the ultimate proof regardless if you acknowledge it or not.

It is your strawman that Atheism equates to liberalism

I am under no obligation to give it any credibility
Well... are you a liberal? Are you an atheist?
Good question...but it kind of blows apart your theory

I stopped believing in God when I was around 12....I had no political leanings one way or the other. I just knew what I was being told in church was bogus tripe for the gullible

By 18, I was solidly conservative. Voted for Reagan two times and Bush two times......yet, I still didn't believe in God

In the mid 90s, I soured on the Republicans.......atheism had nothing to do with it.
So you are a liberal and an atheist and have proved my point.
 
That atheists don't believe that the only guiding principle is pleasure and satisfaction of primitive needs

Absolutely not true. Atheists have a strong moral code built on the golden rule. Atheists do the right thing because it is the right thing....not because they fear gods punishment


That atheists don't attack religious beliefs?

Look at this Religious board. Very few threads are created by atheists. It is religious nut cases who start threads about atheists. I will mock your religious beliefs if you start ridiculous threads like this


That atheists are not predominantly liberals?

Can't say it is true. Especially when you look at atheists around the world. I theorize many, many more conservatives are atheists than are willing to admit it


That liberals are not inflamed by social issues?

Has nothing to do with atheism


That when people's elevate beliefs to a dogma and when those beliefs are attacked they respond like a religious fanatic who has had his religion attacked?

You keep repeating that like it has some relevance. It is pure doggerel

That liberals don't tell others that their problems are because of rich people?

Has nothing to do with atheism

That liberals don't want to redistribute wealth?


Has nothing to do with atheism
Ok, then. So when I catch you doing these things I should bring this back up to you? As to the things you want to disassociate from atheism, I am afraid that I can't separate them as they are indelibly linked. As to your dismissal of the religious behavior of fanaticism, well that is the ultimate proof regardless if you acknowledge it or not.

It is your strawman that Atheism equates to liberalism

I am under no obligation to give it any credibility
Well... are you a liberal? Are you an atheist?
Good question...but it kind of blows apart your theory

I stopped believing in God when I was around 12....I had no political leanings one way or the other. I just knew what I was being told in church was bogus tripe for the gullible

By 18, I was solidly conservative. Voted for Reagan two times and Bush two times......yet, I still didn't believe in God

In the mid 90s, I soured on the Republicans.......atheism had nothing to do with it.
So you are a liberal and an atheist and have proved my point.
It seems my atheism precluded my political views and didn't prevent me from supporting conservatism for almost 20 years

Kind of blows apart your theories
 
Atheists are not all socialists but are just as deluded as theists, as there's no proof either way whether a god exists or not.

Agnosticism is the thinking person's position.

:thanks:
But you are not an agnostic, you are an atheist. Let's test that... do you believe that the vast majority of atheists are liberal/progressive/socialistic?
Politics and atheism are unrelated in that atheists don't all adhere to a specific political agenda.
I'm agnostic and I'm for smaller government and in general Republican policies (outside religion).
You are not an agnostic. Are you a liberal?
I am agnostic, suck it up, sister.
 
Atheists are not all socialists but are just as deluded as theists, as there's no proof either way whether a god exists or not.

Agnosticism is the thinking person's position.

:thanks:
But you are not an agnostic, you are an atheist. Let's test that... do you believe that the vast majority of atheists are liberal/progressive/socialistic?
Politics and atheism are unrelated in that atheists don't all adhere to a specific political agenda.
I'm agnostic and I'm for smaller government and in general Republican policies (outside religion).
You are not an agnostic. Are you a liberal?
I am agnostic, suck it up, sister.
lol, in your dreams. Do you have any scientific peer reviewed data that proves you are agnostic, lol?
 
Ok, then. So when I catch you doing these things I should bring this back up to you? As to the things you want to disassociate from atheism, I am afraid that I can't separate them as they are indelibly linked. As to your dismissal of the religious behavior of fanaticism, well that is the ultimate proof regardless if you acknowledge it or not.

It is your strawman that Atheism equates to liberalism

I am under no obligation to give it any credibility
Well... are you a liberal? Are you an atheist?
Good question...but it kind of blows apart your theory

I stopped believing in God when I was around 12....I had no political leanings one way or the other. I just knew what I was being told in church was bogus tripe for the gullible

By 18, I was solidly conservative. Voted for Reagan two times and Bush two times......yet, I still didn't believe in God

In the mid 90s, I soured on the Republicans.......atheism had nothing to do with it.
So you are a liberal and an atheist and have proved my point.
It seems my atheism precluded my political views and didn't prevent me from supporting conservatism for almost 20 years

Kind of blows apart your theories
Doesn't matter. You are an atheist and a liberal. It totally proves they are connected.
 
It is your strawman that Atheism equates to liberalism

I am under no obligation to give it any credibility
Well... are you a liberal? Are you an atheist?
Good question...but it kind of blows apart your theory

I stopped believing in God when I was around 12....I had no political leanings one way or the other. I just knew what I was being told in church was bogus tripe for the gullible

By 18, I was solidly conservative. Voted for Reagan two times and Bush two times......yet, I still didn't believe in God

In the mid 90s, I soured on the Republicans.......atheism had nothing to do with it.
So you are a liberal and an atheist and have proved my point.
It seems my atheism precluded my political views and didn't prevent me from supporting conservatism for almost 20 years

Kind of blows apart your theories
Doesn't matter. You are an atheist and a liberal. It totally proves they are connected.

And when I was an atheist and a conservative?
 
Well... are you a liberal? Are you an atheist?
Good question...but it kind of blows apart your theory

I stopped believing in God when I was around 12....I had no political leanings one way or the other. I just knew what I was being told in church was bogus tripe for the gullible

By 18, I was solidly conservative. Voted for Reagan two times and Bush two times......yet, I still didn't believe in God

In the mid 90s, I soured on the Republicans.......atheism had nothing to do with it.
So you are a liberal and an atheist and have proved my point.
It seems my atheism precluded my political views and didn't prevent me from supporting conservatism for almost 20 years

Kind of blows apart your theories
Doesn't matter. You are an atheist and a liberal. It totally proves they are connected.

And when I was an atheist and a conservative?
The conversion was not complete.
 

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