The Reason I Am A Conservative

[Pellinore]

In America, the GOP has outlawed actual conservatism. They kept the name and changed the definition, without sending out the memo.
Note, Republicans, news organizations and even the RNC itself will claim that Trump is a conservative. Which he's not. Not a fiscal or constitutional conservative, that is. He's more of a new republican. (neocon).
Big spending republican. In fact, Trump is a lot close to being a moderate democrat than a conservative.
I know I'll get bashed for saying that. But only by people who support Trump because they either don't know what fiscal conservatism is, or they like big spending, big government republicans.

I absolutely agree with you that Trump does not preach conservatism, fiscally or constitutionally or any other way. He's definitely right wing, as he definitely believes in a social hierarchy with him and his followers on top; he doesn't fight for universal equality at all.

His main message is that everything wrong with this country is the fault of the corrupt elites who SAY they are Americans but are really just out for themselves, and of the traitors who sell us out, and the outsiders who are trying to erode our culture from within. He says that we used to be great but it's all of these people who are tearing us down so we need to FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT to Make America Great Again! Right?

He's such a strong speaker that he's good at convincing conservatives to his cause, but he's not one himself. I would call him a right-wing populist and a hard-core nationalist.

 

[Frankenstein]

I could never be brainwashed. Now let me go pray for forgiveness from the magic sky lord for sinning earlier against his will.

Why bring it up if you don't believe? I am sure more than once on this forum. you have let people know you are anti-Christ

 

[SassyIrishLass]

"May a thousand crab lice nest in your armpit."
~~~Old Hossfly proverb

Hoss, me thinks you're iconic

 

[Frankenstein]

In America, the GOP has outlawed actual conservatism. They kept the name and changed the definition, without sending out the memo.
Note, Republicans, news organizations and even the RNC itself will claim that Trump is a conservative. Which he's not. Not a fiscal or constitutional conservative, that is. He's more of a new republican. (neocon).
Big spending republican. In fact, Trump is a lot close to being a moderate democrat than a conservative.
I know I'll get bashed for saying that. But only by people who support Trump because they either don't know what fiscal conservatism is, or they like big spending, big government republicans.

Would you consider that better than the alternative, or equal? If equal what is your course of action? Do you vote Democrat

 

[presonorek]

As most republicans do not actually support conservatism.

They are “Reagan Conservatives”. Reagan was the second biggest spender out of all our presidents. Only to be beat by Franklin D Roosevelt.

Bill Clinton is the most conservative out of all of the modern presidents and that sucker was a democrat. Donald Trump has been famous for decades for borrowing money like crazy. I’m not sure why Trump was chosen over Hillary in 2016 by “conservatives”. It makes me laugh really. A Reagan Conservative is not a conservative at all. Trump didn’t even pretend to be a conservative. His platform was actually to spend like crazy like Reagan. Fun fact: Make America Great Again was the exact same slogan Reagan used in 1980.

 

[YoursTruly]

I absolutely agree with you that Trump does not preach conservatism, fiscally or constitutionally or any other way. He's definitely right wing, as he definitely believes in a social hierarchy with him and his followers on top; he doesn't fight for universal equality at all.

His main message is that everything wrong with this country is the fault of the corrupt elites who SAY they are Americans but are really just out for themselves, and of the traitors who sell us out, and the outsiders who are trying to erode our culture from within. He says that we used to be great but it's all of these people who are tearing us down so we need to FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT to Make America Great Again! Right?

He's such a strong speaker that he's good at convincing conservatives to his cause, but he's not one himself. I would call him a right-wing populist and a hard-core nationalist.

Right on all counts, except the bold part. He's good at convincing republicans. NOT conservatives. THE only conservatives that would even vote for Trump are the ones who still believing in voting for the lesser of two evils.

 

[YoursTruly]

They are “Reagan Conservatives”. Reagan was the second biggest spender out of all our presidents. Only to be beat by Franklin D Roosevelt.

Bill Clinton is the most conservative out of all of the modern presidents and that sucker was a democrat. Donald Trump has been famous for decades for borrowing money like crazy. I’m not sure why Trump was chosen over Hillary in 2016 by “conservatives”. It makes me laugh really. A Reagan Conservative is not a conservative at all. Trump didn’t even pretend to be a conservative. His platform was actually to spend like crazy like Reagan. Fun fact: Make America Great Again was the exact same slogan Reagan used in 1980.

 

[Leo123]

Getting rid of this shit is a good reason to be conservative.

 

[YoursTruly]

Would you consider that better than the alternative, or equal? If equal what is your course of action? Do you vote Democrat

I vote ONLY for fiscal and constitutional conservatives. If there's not one on the ballot, that stands a chance of winning, I just don't vote.
Voting means they own you. It means you're wanting them to own you, to rule over you and to tax you. Conservatives (actual conservatives) don't want to run your lives. They want a government that lives within it's means. Where the government only borrows from the Fed in cases of actual emergencies. We want an economy that's driven by an actual free market, with safeguards in place to keep businesses from cheating the public. We want a trade policy that allows trading with all willing nations. But not getting involved with the internal part of their government. We want a military that just large enough and equipped enough to defend this country. Not police the world or fight others wars & battles.

Voting for the lesser of two evils is how we end up with candidates like Biden and Trump. It's how we ended up with Romney and McCain, not long ago.
All the good ones, from either party, that truly have idea's to fix what we the people know needs to be fixed, get thrown under the bus by their own parties.
Examples: Tulsi Gabbard. Ron Paul. Rand Paul. If DeSantis runs against Trump, the Trumpbots will try to cancel Ron.

 

[YoursTruly]

Getting rid of this shit is a good reason to be conservative.

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Conservatives don't object to tranny weirdo's. We object the government subjecting them to that sort of thing.

 

[Pellinore]

Right on all counts, except the bold part. He's good at convincing republicans. NOT conservatives. THE only conservatives that would even vote for Trump are the ones who still believing in voting for the lesser of two evils.

Fair. I say that because the Republican Party used to be the party of conservatives, but now, much or most of it seems to be people who still call themselves conservative, but are no longer following conservative ideals. The GOP is now deeply in the hands of people following Trumpist ideals.

 

[Leo123]

Conservatives don't object to tranny weirdo's. We object the government subjecting them to that sort of thing.

Trannies don't belong with children. Did you miss my point or what? Kids don't need this shit and as far as government condoning it.......

Militant transgender advocates are imposing their agenda with uncompromising zeal on schoolchildren.


That’s fine with President Joe Biden. His administration announced this month that by April, it will enhance the legal entitlements of transgender public-school students, with new guarantees regarding access to bathrooms, locker rooms and sports competitions.

How public schools brainwash young kids with harmful transgender ideology

Militant transgender advocates are imposing their agenda with uncompromising zeal on schoolchildren. That’s fine with President Joe Biden. His administration announced this month that by April, it …

nypost.com

 

[Leo123]

Fair. I say that because the Republican Party used to be the party of conservatives, but now, much or most of it seems to be people who still call themselves conservative, but are no longer following conservative ideals. The GOP is now deeply in the hands of people following Trumpist ideals.

Trump is conservative.

 

[YoursTruly]

Fair. I say that because the Republican Party used to be the party of conservatives, but now, much or most of it seems to be people who still call themselves conservative, but are no longer following conservative ideals. The GOP is now deeply in the hands of people following Trumpist ideals.

Exactly. Good post.

This is how the acronym RINO came about. Republicans that started leaning left, and away from conservative principles, they were called RINO's. I Call them CINO's now.

 

[sartre play]

apparently so are liberals.....

Hard to tune it out, the endless hate, Why? Because you prefer a different political party? Zero common sense is applied when it comes to being caught up in the Only one party has All the answers.

 

[presonorek]

Hard to tune it out, the endless hate, Why? Because you prefer a different political party? Zero common sense is applied when it comes to being caught up in the Only one party has All the answers.

My hate derives from the fact that the party with all the answers is playing for the other side. People think we have a two party system. We have an one party system.

We have one party that promotes liberal policies.

We have one party that allows the other party to promote liberal policies so that they can give speeches against them.

It’s a charade. It’s a circus performance. I will vote democrat until I start seeing republicans back up their speeches. I’d rather have bad policies than bad policies. Wait. It’s the same thing no matter which party I vote for. If republicans don’t start losing more then they aren’t going to correct.

 

[presonorek]

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Arkansas had a surplus or a balanced budget every year Bill Clinton was governor. The trick to that is that the Arkansas constitution requires it. It would be great to elect former governors from states like this to the presidency in my opinion. Have we had a former governor get the democrat or the Republican nomination since George W Bush? In Trump’s defense I think he did have a surplus one year.

 

[Harry Dresden]

Hard to tune it out, the endless hate, Why? Because you prefer a different political party? Zero common sense is applied when it comes to being caught up in the Only one party has All the answers.

doesnt take away what i said....

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

A conservative practices conservatism. Two different things here. One is a person. And one is a political ideology.
I'm a fiscal conservative. Not to be confused as a republican. As most republicans do not actually support conservatism.

I am a libertarian/conservative, where i believe that actions have consequences, you **** up someone's life, you must pay to the fullest for those actions.

 

[BackAgain]

You are a conservative because you have a functioning brain and aren’t governed by emotionalism.