- Apr 15, 2015
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Why only Italy what?why only Italy?I agree, that could be at least in part the reason why. Now please explain to Bripat why simply just looking at mortality rates in Iceland alone isn't really indicative of our own COVID-19 mortality rate.The reason why the mortality rate has gone up in the U.S. in spite of more testing is our healthcare system is overwhelmed, and it’s only going to get worse.As I said I understand your argument but I don't see any evidence that massive testing lowers the mortality rate. It sounds like it should, but in the United States when we finally got our shit together and started testing (not that we are doing enough yet 2 months later) that the mortality rate in this country has gone up, not down. I hope that trajectory changes and I'm not making a prediction one way or another but it flies in your face that the virus is "140 times smaller" than it is. How does Dan the Squirrel man account for a lack of healthcare that New York is experiencing and soon other cities and states will?You are correct, I overlooked the qualifier. However, that doesn't matter. What matters is that S. Korea doesn't limit its testing only to people who show symptoms. It tests everyone that may have been exposed to the virus or who wants a test. That means it uncovers a lot of people wouldn't be detected by the U.S testing policy. You don't seem to get that.No, 5,200 per million. Man, you are so dumb, did you not understand the source?You claimed 5000 people were tested. Why should we believe anything else you say about Korea?248,000 people. The population is about 51.47 million. That's less than .5% of the population.Wrong, asshole:As of March 17th South Korea tested about 5200 out of a million or .52%.For the record, South Korea also did extensive testing, and had something like a .77% mortality rate.You get a more accurate number than going by figures where not all the people who have the disease have been tested. That means the rest of the world, dumbass.The premise of this thread that by looking at Iceland alone and ignoring the rest of the world we can deduce the mortality rate.What have I posted that isn't a fact?You should maybe have your chubby little fingers post facts for a change.No, it doesn't carry any more weight. Facts are facts.Cool. Does it carry more weight if it's coming from epidemiology experts including Dr. Fauci, and published in the New England Journal of Medicine?Neat.
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A fatality rate like that of "a severe influenza... considerably less than 1%" -- Dr. Fauci's words, not Danfromsquirrelhill'shttps://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2020/03/26/821688981/how-south-korea-reigned-in-the-outbreak-without-shutting-everything-downAs of this week, South Korea had just over 9,000 confirmed coronavirus cases, which puts it among the top 10 countries for total cases. But South Korea has another distinction: Health experts are noting that recently the nation has managed to significantly slow the number of new cases. And the country appears to have reined in the outbreak without some of the strict lockdown strategies deployed elsewhere in the world.. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .They've used testing aggressively to identify cases — not only testing people who are so sick that they're hospitalized but also mild cases and even suspected cases. They've quarantined tens of thousands of people who may have been exposed to confirmed cases.
A scary brush with Middle East respiratory syndrome led the country to set up the world’s most expansive testing program for COVID-19www.sciencemag.org
In the meantime the United States has tested more yet the mortality rate has increased from about 1.3% in early March to around 2% now. Pretty sure the overall percentage will go down but more testing hasn't made that happen so far.
EDIT: COVID-19 Mortality Rate: A Grim Update | National Review
According to the Worldometer statistics (which are consistent with those compiled by Johns Hopkins University), the U.S. mortality rate has surged to 2.16 percent (4,099 deaths out of 189,711 reported cases as of this morning). Last week, it was about 1.5 percent. The U.S. rate is still less than half of the global rate of 5 percent (44,214 deaths out of 885,301 reported cases), which itself is probably a gross understatement (unless you believe the rosy reports from China — see Jim Geraghty’s nonpareil reporting on that, here and here, as well as our Zachary Evans’s report this morning). Nevertheless, the uptick is alarming.
https://www.propublica.org/article/how-south-korea-scaled-coronavirus-testing-while-the-us-fell-dangerously-behindAs of Saturday, South Korea had tested more than 248,000 people and identified 8,086 cases.
At what point do you not question your own intelligence?
What is the general health of Icelanders and South Koreans compared to United States citizens? According to the link below Iceland and South Korea are ranked 10th and 11th respectively in Life Expectancy. The United States is 46th. So you're comparing two relatively healthy countries to one that isn't so much. For example, how is your diabetes going to play a role if/when you get COVID-19?
List of countries and dependencies in the world ranked by life expectancy at birth, both sexes, males and females. World Population Life Expectancy with historical chartwww.worldometers.info