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Not one truth denier like sunset timmy ever answer one question.
Like how did they come to report a building collapse 30 MINUTES before it happened ??
The FDNY anticipated the collapse of the WTC 7 by about 3 hours after watching the building bulge, lean and slowly structurally fail..... evacuating the area of their own people and all the press.

"...also we were pretty sure that 7 World Trade Center would collapse. Early on, we saw a bulge in the southwest corner between floors 10 and 13, and we had put a transit on that and we were pretty sure she was going to collapse. You actually could see there was a visible bulge, it ran up about three floors. It came down about 5 o’clock in the afternoon, but by about 2 o’clock in the afternoon we realized this thing was going to collapse.

Deputy Chief Peter Hayden"

I've answered that silly question like a dozen times. You just ignore the answer every time and then insist that because you ignore the answer, you never got one.

That's your process in a nutshell: demand answers......then ignore every answer.
 
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.....With half of the structural supports of the WTC on the OUTSIDE of the building,
Now you're just making shit up as you go ? Anything to clutter up the thread and keep getting that last word in right ?

The main structural columns were inside the 2 twin towers around the elevator shafts. The outer walls were designed to bear the weight of the outer floor space only.

The thermite charges were wrapped around the core columns at strategic points such as ;
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And we know from several witnesses there were basement explosions.
 
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After 7:00 they illustrate the engineering, clearly showing how the inner core columns were the main load-bearers. .

And once you know how they were built, common sense tells most intelligent people --planes and jet fuel didn't cause them to freefall collapse.
 

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.....With half of the structural supports of the WTC on the OUTSIDE of the building,
Now you're just making shit up as you go ? Anything to clutter up the thread and keep getting that last word in right ?

The main structural columns were inside the 2 twin towers around the elevator shafts. The outer walls were designed to bear the weight of the outer floor space.

The thermite charges were wrapped around the core columns at strategic points such as ;View attachment 449052
And we know from several witnesses there were basement explosions.
The structural supports of the WTC 1 and 2 were split between the 47 core columns and 59 perimeter columns on each side plus 1 for each corner for a total of 240 perimeter columns.

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Which means that the overwhelming majority of your imaginary 'thermite reactions' would have been on the outside of the building and visible to open air. With 240 perimeter columns connecting at each floor, 93 floors to the ground on one tower and 79 floors to the ground on the other.....that's 41,280 separate thermite reactions on the perimeter columns alone that would hve been necessary to bring down both towers........

ALL of them so bright that they can permanent damage your eyes if you saw them. ALL of them in open air, visible to any viewer.

And we never saw ONE. Not one thermite reaction before, during or after the collapse.

Your theory is molten garbage. And collapses at an even casual review of the facts.
 

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After 7:00 they illustrate the engineering, clearly showing how the inner core columns were the main load-bearers. .

And once you know how they were built, common sense tells most intelligent people --planes and jet fuel didn't cause them to freefall collapse.
Common sense? There wasn't ONE thermite reaction ever found ever. Not before during or after. Here's the debris field, where your thermite would have been burning. Show me even ONE thermite reaction:

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Remember, thermite provides its own oxegen. Once it starts, you can't stop it.

Thermite WELDS, it doesn't cut. Its used to weld rail road ties together. Thermite has never been used in any controlled demolition in history for just this reason.

So we have ZERO thermite reactions, despite your theory requiring 10s of thousands of them. And thermite being USELESS in controlled demolition as it welds but doesn't cut.

Your conspiracy is molten garbage. Its a terrible, terrible explanation that is contrradicted by overwhelming evidence and makes absolutely no sense.
 

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Which means that the overwhelming majority of your imaginary 'thermite reactions' would have been on the outside of the building and visible to open air.
Absolutely false.
Goodnight.
Oh, we're just getting started. Where were these 10s of thousands of canisters of thermite? Each would have been the size of a small car, strapped to the girders at 10s of thousands of different locations.

The WTC plaza was inspected by bomb sniffing dogs and the Port Authority bomb squad 6 DAYS before the attacks. And they never found any of the stupidly complex array of thermite canisters and the accompanying wiring necessary for controlled demolition that your theory requires.

With the still unresolved theory killing hole that thermite is never used in controlled demolition because it WELDS. It doesn't cut.

The building wasn't a museum. It had more than 90% occupancy, was regularly maintained, was regularly inspected.....and NO ONE found anything you're describing.

Again, there is truck sized hole after truck sized hole is your shit theory. Your conspiracy is void of evidence, contradicted by overwhelming evidence, stupidly complicated, and laughably implausible.

No thank you.
 
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Explosive Features | Twin Towers
The report issued by the National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST) on the destruction of WTC 1 and WTC 2 was voluminous, yet NIST did not analyze what is arguably the most important aspect of the collapses for establishing their likely technical cause: the structural behavior of the towers during the collapse. Instead, NIST carried its analysis only to the point of what it called “collapse initiation.”

As a result of stopping its analysis at collapse initiation, NIST’s final report provides virtually no explanation for the most relevant body of evidence. The very limited explanations NIST does provide come mainly from its FAQs webpage and are speculative rather than based upon scientific analysis.

Pulverization and Dismemberment
One of the most noticeable features of the Twin Towers’ destruction was the near-total pulverization of their concrete flooring. New York Governor George Pataki provided this account:
“There’s no concrete. There’s very little concrete. All you see is aluminum and steel. The concrete was pulverized. And I was down here on Tuesday, and it was like you were on a foreign planet. All over lower Manhattan — not just this site — from river to river, there was dust, powder two, three inches thick. The concrete was just pulverized.”

Pulverized concrete submerged lower Manhattan in enormous dust clouds and blanketed the streets with several inches of dust.
In addition, the buildings’ steel structures were almost entirely dismembered. Aside from some of the exterior walls at the base of each building still standing, virtually all of their steel skeletons were broken up into small pieces, with the core structures separated into individual members and the exterior columns broken up into three-story, prefabricated sections.

Debris from the dismembered structures of WTC 1 and WTC 2.
What can explain the near-total pulverization of approximately 8.8 million square feet of 5.5-inch-thick lightweight concrete flooring and the near-total dismemberment of 220 stories of steel structure? NIST provides no explanation, and gravity alone appears to be implausible. A simple analysis of the approximate amount of energy required to pulverize the concrete and dismember the steel structures indicates that about 1,255 gigajoules of energy would have been required, far exceeding the estimated 508 gigajoules of gravitational potential energy contained in the buildings.1
The near-total pulverization and dismemberment of the structures becomes even more difficult to explain when we consider that the collapses occurred “essentially in free fall.”2 Near-total pulverization and dismemberment would require a tremendous collision of materials at each floor, and yet NIST claims that the structure below “offered minimal resistance to the falling building mass.”3 The official hypothesis thus attempts to have it both ways: “minimal resistance,” “free fall,” deceleration “far too small to be perceptible”4 — and yet near-total pulverization and dismemberment of the buildings’ concrete and steel. But according to Dr. Steven Jones, a former physics professor at Brigham Young University, “The paradox is easily resolved by the explosive demolition hypothesis, whereby explosives quickly remove lower-floor material including steel support columns and allow near free-fall-speed collapses.”5
Explosive Ejection of Materials
As the concrete was being pulverized and the structures were being dismembered, a large percentage of the buildings’ materials was ejected laterally far beyond the perimeters of the buildings. According to the FEMA Building Performance Study, the debris fields extended as far as 400 to 500 feet from each tower’s base.

The materials of WTC 1, including multi-ton beams, were explosively ejected several hundred feet in all directions.
In the popular five-minute video titled North Tower Exploding, produced by physics teacher David Chandler, he describes the observed explosive ejection of materials from WTC 1:
nder the canopy of falling debris, do you see the rapid sequence of explosive ejections of material? Some of the jets have been clocked at over 100 mph.... They’re continuous and widespread. They move progressively down the faces of the building, keeping pace with the falling debris.... The building is being progressively destroyed from the top down by waves of explosions creating a huge debris field.”
Chandler then describes the hurling of multi-ton steel members:
“Notice that embedded in the dust clouds are huge girders and entire sections of steel framing that are being hurled out of the building.... Some landed as much as two football fields away from the base of the tower.”
Chandler next addresses the claim that the ejection of these girders was caused by a spring action resulting from the upper sections crushing down upon them.
“Some people have suggested that the weight of the tower crushing down on the girders caused them to flex and they sprung sideways by a spring action. But we are not seeing isolated jumping girders. We are seeing a major fraction of the mass of the building...reduced to small pieces of rubble and fine dust, and being explosively ejected in all directions.”
Demolition Squibs
Along with the pulverization, dismemberment, and explosive ejection of the buildings’ materials, we observed what Kevin Ryan describes as “high velocity bursts of debris ejected from point-like sources.”6 According to Ryan, “[T]he demolition hypothesis suggests that these bursts of debris are the result of the detonation of explosive charges (squibs), placed at key points in the structure to facilitate the removal of resistance.” Ryan goes on to describe these apparent squibs in more detail:

High-velocity bursts of debris, or “squibs,” were ejected from point-like sources in WTC 1 and WTC 2, as many as 20 to 30 stories below the collapse front.
“In the videos we can see these bursts being ejected from the sides of the towers nearly 30 floors below the collapse front....
“Each of these was a sharp emission that appeared to come from a point-like source, ejecting approximately 50 to 100 feet from the side of the building in a fraction of a second. From the extracted frames of the KTLA video,16 we can estimate that one of the bursts was fully ejected in approximately .45 seconds. This gives an average burst velocity of approximately 170 feet per second.”

NIST’s explanation for these high-velocity bursts of debris is provided not in its final report, but in its FAQs, where it calls them “puffs of smoke” and says, “[T]he falling mass of the building compressed the air ahead of it — much like the action of a piston — forcing smoke and debris out the windows as the stories below failed sequentially.”7
Kevin Ryan offers several arguments for why NIST’s explanation is not valid:
  • The floors were not the kind of tightly sealed, highly pressurized containers that would be required to generate overpressures strong enough to burst windows.
  • The falling mass would need to act as a flat plate exerting uniform pressure at all points. But the falling upper sections, themselves disintegrating as observed in the videos, could not exert uniform pressure.
  • Even if perfect containers and uniform pressure are assumed, using the Ideal Gas Law to calculate the change in pressure, we can determine that the air pressure would not increase enough to burst windows.
  • The bursts contained pulverized debris, not smoke and dust. Yet building materials 20 to 30 stories below the collapse zone could not be pulverized and ejected laterally by air pressure.
 

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Explosive Features | Twin Towers
The report issued by the National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST) on the destruction of WTC 1 and WTC 2 was voluminous, yet NIST did not analyze what is arguably the most important aspect of the collapses for establishing their likely technical cause: the structural behavior of the towers during the collapse. Instead, NIST carried its analysis only to the point of what it called “collapse initiation.”

As a result of stopping its analysis at collapse initiation, NIST’s final report provides virtually no explanation for the most relevant body of evidence. The very limited explanations NIST does provide come mainly from its FAQs webpage and are speculative rather than based upon scientific analysis.

Pulverization and Dismemberment
One of the most noticeable features of the Twin Towers’ destruction was the near-total pulverization of their concrete flooring. New York Governor George Pataki provided this account:
“There’s no concrete. There’s very little concrete. All you see is aluminum and steel. The concrete was pulverized. And I was down here on Tuesday, and it was like you were on a foreign planet. All over lower Manhattan — not just this site — from river to river, there was dust, powder two, three inches thick. The concrete was just pulverized.”

Pulverized concrete submerged lower Manhattan in enormous dust clouds and blanketed the streets with several inches of dust.
In addition, the buildings’ steel structures were almost entirely dismembered. Aside from some of the exterior walls at the base of each building still standing, virtually all of their steel skeletons were broken up into small pieces, with the core structures separated into individual members and the exterior columns broken up into three-story, prefabricated sections.

Debris from the dismembered structures of WTC 1 and WTC 2.
What can explain the near-total pulverization of approximately 8.8 million square feet of 5.5-inch-thick lightweight concrete flooring and the near-total dismemberment of 220 stories of steel structure? NIST provides no explanation, and gravity alone appears to be implausible. A simple analysis of the approximate amount of energy required to pulverize the concrete and dismember the steel structures indicates that about 1,255 gigajoules of energy would have been required, far exceeding the estimated 508 gigajoules of gravitational potential energy contained in the buildings.1
The near-total pulverization and dismemberment of the structures becomes even more difficult to explain when we consider that the collapses occurred “essentially in free fall.”2 Near-total pulverization and dismemberment would require a tremendous collision of materials at each floor, and yet NIST claims that the structure below “offered minimal resistance to the falling building mass.”3 The official hypothesis thus attempts to have it both ways: “minimal resistance,” “free fall,” deceleration “far too small to be perceptible”4 — and yet near-total pulverization and dismemberment of the buildings’ concrete and steel. But according to Dr. Steven Jones, a former physics professor at Brigham Young University, “The paradox is easily resolved by the explosive demolition hypothesis, whereby explosives quickly remove lower-floor material including steel support columns and allow near free-fall-speed collapses.”5
Explosive Ejection of Materials
As the concrete was being pulverized and the structures were being dismembered, a large percentage of the buildings’ materials was ejected laterally far beyond the perimeters of the buildings. According to the FEMA Building Performance Study, the debris fields extended as far as 400 to 500 feet from each tower’s base.

The materials of WTC 1, including multi-ton beams, were explosively ejected several hundred feet in all directions.
In the popular five-minute video titled North Tower Exploding, produced by physics teacher David Chandler, he describes the observed explosive ejection of materials from WTC 1:
nder the canopy of falling debris, do you see the rapid sequence of explosive ejections of material? Some of the jets have been clocked at over 100 mph.... They’re continuous and widespread. They move progressively down the faces of the building, keeping pace with the falling debris.... The building is being progressively destroyed from the top down by waves of explosions creating a huge debris field.”
Chandler then describes the hurling of multi-ton steel members:
“Notice that embedded in the dust clouds are huge girders and entire sections of steel framing that are being hurled out of the building.... Some landed as much as two football fields away from the base of the tower.”
Chandler next addresses the claim that the ejection of these girders was caused by a spring action resulting from the upper sections crushing down upon them.
“Some people have suggested that the weight of the tower crushing down on the girders caused them to flex and they sprung sideways by a spring action. But we are not seeing isolated jumping girders. We are seeing a major fraction of the mass of the building...reduced to small pieces of rubble and fine dust, and being explosively ejected in all directions.”
Demolition Squibs
Along with the pulverization, dismemberment, and explosive ejection of the buildings’ materials, we observed what Kevin Ryan describes as “high velocity bursts of debris ejected from point-like sources.”6 According to Ryan, “[T]he demolition hypothesis suggests that these bursts of debris are the result of the detonation of explosive charges (squibs), placed at key points in the structure to facilitate the removal of resistance.” Ryan goes on to describe these apparent squibs in more detail:

High-velocity bursts of debris, or “squibs,” were ejected from point-like sources in WTC 1 and WTC 2, as many as 20 to 30 stories below the collapse front.
“In the videos we can see these bursts being ejected from the sides of the towers nearly 30 floors below the collapse front....
“Each of these was a sharp emission that appeared to come from a point-like source, ejecting approximately 50 to 100 feet from the side of the building in a fraction of a second. From the extracted frames of the KTLA video,16 we can estimate that one of the bursts was fully ejected in approximately .45 seconds. This gives an average burst velocity of approximately 170 feet per second.”

NIST’s explanation for these high-velocity bursts of debris is provided not in its final report, but in its FAQs, where it calls them “puffs of smoke” and says, “[T]he falling mass of the building compressed the air ahead of it — much like the action of a piston — forcing smoke and debris out the windows as the stories below failed sequentially.”7
Kevin Ryan offers several arguments for why NIST’s explanation is not valid:

  • The floors were not the kind of tightly sealed, highly pressurized containers that would be required to generate overpressures strong enough to burst windows.
  • The falling mass would need to act as a flat plate exerting uniform pressure at all points. But the falling upper sections, themselves disintegrating as observed in the videos, could not exert uniform pressure.
  • Even if perfect containers and uniform pressure are assumed, using the Ideal Gas Law to calculate the change in pressure, we can determine that the air pressure would not increase enough to burst windows.
  • The bursts contained pulverized debris, not smoke and dust. Yet building materials 20 to 30 stories below the collapse zone could not be pulverized and ejected laterally by air pressure.
And exactly as I predicted, you abandoned your dipshit 'thermite' nonsense when its numerous theory killing flaws were pointed out. And switched to explosive demolition.

Thermite doesn't explode. Killing your thermite theory. If even YOU are going to abandon your batshit nonsense the moment its questioned, why would we give a shit about your claims?

As for your 'explosion' theory, there were no explosions that proceeded the collapse of the towers.

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Nothing. The towers just began to fall with NO sounds of explosions preceding the collapse. With the collapse of the towers being exactly OPPOSITE of controlled demolition, occuring top to bottom. While actual controlled demolition occurs bottom to top.

Here's ACTUAL controlled demolition:


WIth MASSIVE sounds of explosions preceding the collapse.

So 'silent' explosives? That's the stupidest damn thing I've ever heard.

Your conspiracy is shit. There's a reason you keep making accusation after accusation and then fleeing from them. If your claims had merit, you wouldn't have to run. Yet.....you always do.
 

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So lets review, shall we? You claimed that no one has ever been able to explain how the BBC knew that the WTC 7 was going to collapse. I debunked that silly lie by showing that the FDNY anticipated the collapse of WTC 7 by about 3 hours and evacuated all their people and the press.

So you abandoned your claim and switched to 'explosive demolition'.

I pointed out the absurdity of your explosive demolition claims, the fact that there was no aparatus of explosives ever found, not a single blasting cap, not an single detomator, not the slightest residue of explosives found in any of the debris.

So you abandoned your explosive claim and switched to 'thermite'.

I pointed out that thermite doesn't cut, it welds. That thermite reactions are beyond obvious, burning so brightly they can blind you. That your theory would require more than 40,000 such reactions......and there were none ever found. Not before, not during, not after.

So you abandoned your thermite claim and switched back to 'explosive demolition'.

If even YOU abandon your useless conspiracy batshit at the first question, why would we give the slightest shit about your conspiracy?
 

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As for your 'explosion' theory,
I have no theory.
Just asking questions.
Calm down skippy.

You don't seem like FBI -- I'm guessing you're black op.
Probably with some cyber security firm like coalfire.
Of course you do. You're theories just don't hold up to scrutiny.......so you abandon them like the garbage they are.

You don't 'ask questions'. You ignore answers. For example.....you asked how the BBC knew that WTC 7 was going to collapse BEFORE it came down.

I quoted the FDNY and their assessment by 2pm on 9/11 that they knew WTC7 was going to collapse due to fire and structural damage. How the FDNY had pulled their fire fighting effort and evacuated the area around WTC7 of their people AND the press before it came down.

That's how the BBC knew about the collapse of WTC7 before it happened. And I've told you that repeatedly.

Yet you lied, and insisted no one had ever been able to answer the question. And then ignored it the answer and started spamming unrelated youtube videos in reply.

You will ignore ANYTHING that contradicts your conspiracy. And you don't answers. You want confirmation of your conspiracy. Even if you have to ignore the evidence.
 

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C'mon mossad boy.
So now I'm part of your conspiracy, tinfoil?

As you already accused the FDNY of being part of your conspiracy, I'm apparently in excellent company. I'll stand with the FDNY against your hapless conspiracy batshit anyday.
 

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evacuated all their people and the press.
Bullshit.
Show me where the American press ever once covered the collapse of the Solomon Brothers building during or after.

We're talking about WTC 7, tinfoil.

You're switching buildings because your theory about how the BBC knew WTC7 as going to come down fell apart.

Thank you for once again demonstrating my point about how you will ignore ANY answer, ANY evidence, ANYTHING at all that contradicts your batshit conspiracy theories.

You don't want answers.
And you'll ignore any answer you're given, no matter the evidence.
 
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We're talking about WTC 7, tinfoil.
Stop with the ancient troll tactics---save it for the kiddies.

9/11 was a series of crimes within a series of crimes .
Tower 7 was a controlled demolition and so were the twins, --planes alone would have just been a very expensive clean up.
 

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It's good to keep it fresh in people's minds
that there was never a criminal investigation performed following the destruction of the 3 WTC towers on 9/11, and there are still many unanswered questions.

We are the citizen journalists and investigators who will always pursue truth and justice, despite being labelled 'conspiracy theorists'.

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We must applaud Mr. Richard Gage and his colleagues, Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth, for their tenacity in seeking to answer lingering questions concerning the total destruction of the World Trade Center complex, in particular Buildings 1, 2, and 7.
Architects and Engineers for 911 truth is nothing of the sort.

SInce their creation they have allowd anyone and everyone to sign up. As a result very few members are actual architects and engineers.

Richard Gage is a second rate architect who never helped design a building.

There are no unanswered questions
 
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