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Or.....your conspiracy is so awful that I shred it with ease. So you're trying to fold me into it.

Anyone who doesn't ape the conspiracy, must be part of it. The tinfoil mantra.

I have a better idea: get better explanations. As the one's your pushing now are molten garbage. And can't hold up to scrutiny. Which explains why you've abandoned them.
Don't get personal with me.
You're a disgusting traitor, lying all the time. I would piss in your face if you were here
then shoot you... ( you'd be trespassing on my land like your trespassing on my thread)
 

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Or.....your conspiracy is so awful that I shred it with ease. So you're trying to fold me into it.

Anyone who doesn't ape the conspiracy, must be part of it. The tinfoil mantra.

I have a better idea: get better explanations. As the one's your pushing now are molten garbage. And can't hold up to scrutiny. Which explains why you've abandoned them.
Don't get personal with me.
You're a disgusting traitor, lying all the time. I would piss in your face if you were here
then shoot you... ( you'd be trespassing on my land like your trespassing on my thread)
Or.....you could just come up with better explanations. Your 911 conspiracy is just an awful description of events. Its pointlessly complicated, wildly elaborate and contradicted by overwhelming evidence. Your theory collapses with just a few questions.

And you know it.

Which is why you're threatening me rather than making your argument for your conspiracy. Because you know your conspiracy can't withstand criticism.

If it was valid, it could.
 
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9/11 Families and Experts Submit New Eyewitness Evidence of Explosions in Building 7
AE911Truth December 7, 2020
The National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST) claimed in its final report on the collapse of World Trade Center Building 7 that “there were no witness reports” of an explosion when the 47-story skyscraper fell straight into its footprint late in the afternoon of September 11, 2001.
That claim, long discredited by eyewitness reports of a shockwave ripping through the building and multiple explosions going off, was further challenged in a new filing made today by 9/11 families and Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth. The letter, sent to NIST as part of an ongoing effort to have the federal agency overhaul its report, provides the accounts of four reporters who were close to the scene as Building 7 went down.
Most notably, NY1 reporter Gigi Stone Woods, reporting at 6:30 PM, described a “loud, incredibly loud explosion.” A second NY1 reporter, Annika Pergament, reporting at 5:30 PM, said, “You could feel the ground rumble.” WABC’s Jeff Rossen recounted hearing a “tremble” from six blocks away. And Daily News reporter Peter DeMarco wrote, “[T]here was a rumble. The building’s top row of windows popped out. Then all the windows on the thirty-ninth floor popped out. Then the thirty-eighth floor. Pop! Pop! Pop! was all you heard until the building sunk into a rising cloud of gray.”
NY1 reporter Annika Pergament at 5:30 PM: “I mean, it was a rumble. You could feel the ground rumble.”
NY1 reporter Gigi Stone Woods at 6:30 PM: “All of a sudden, a loud, incredibly loud explosion.”
WABC reporter Jeff Rossen: “But when that building collapsed, you heard another tremble.”
The submission of these four eyewitness accounts is the latest filing in a pending “request for correction,” initiated in April of this year under the Data Quality Act, which asks NIST to reverse its conclusion that fires were the cause of the building’s sudden, total destruction. The original request identifies eight items of information in the NIST report that it argues violate NIST’s information quality standards.
NIST issued an initial denial in August, which AE911Truth denounced as “egregious” and a “mockery of the Data Quality Act.” Then, on September 28, 2020, AE911Truth and its fellow requesters filed an appeal, which is now under review by Dr. James K. Olthoff, NIST’s associate director for laboratory programs.
After the non-binding 60-day deadline for Dr. Olthoff to respond to the appeal came and went, AE911Truth and its fellow requesters moved to submit the additional eyewitness evidence, which had been brought to their attention only after they filed the appeal in September.
The collapse of Building 7 at 5:20 PM on 9/11: The east penthouse falls first. The structure then instantaneously goes into free fall.
In addition to the eyewitness accounts of the four reporters, the new filing includes the oral history of Lieutenant Brian Becker of the New York Fire Department.
Becker’s oral history is intended to bolster the claim made in the original request that two men who were attempting to evacuate Building 7 earlier in the day — Michael Hess, the New York City corporation counsel, and Barry Jennings, deputy director of the Emergency Services Department for the New York City Housing Authority — witnessed an explosion that trapped them in the building.
Hess and Jennings each appeared on television later that day describing what they had witnessed as an explosion, and Jennings continued to maintain — until his death in 2008 — that he witnessed multiple explosions while attempting to evacuate Building 7, including the initial one that caused the 6th floor landing he was standing on to give way.
NIST’s explanation that the event Hess and Jennings witnessed was not an explosion, but was damage caused by debris from the collapse of the North Tower, relies on the agency’s untenable claim that it took the two men from 9:59 AM until 10:28 AM to make it from the 23rd floor to the 6th floor — which averages out to one minute and 42 seconds to descend a single floor. The request argues that since Hess and Jennings must have reached the 6th floor much earlier than 10:28 AM, the event they witnessed could not have been caused by the collapse of the North Tower at 10:28 AM.
NIST: “As [Hess and Jennings] went to get into an elevator to go downstairs, the lights inside WTC 7 flickered as WTC 2 collapsed [at 9:59 AM]. At that point, the elevator they were attempting to catch no longer worked, so they started down the staircase. When they got to the 6th floor, WTC 1 collapsed [at 10:28 AM] . . . and the staircase filled with smoke and debris.”
The oral history of FDNY Lieutenant David Becker demonstrates that he and his team were easily able to descend 30 floors in the North Tower after the collapse of the South Tower at 9:59 AM, even while “checking floors intermittently on the way down.” Becker’s account thus proves beyond any doubt the implausibility of NIST’s claim that it took Hess and Jennings 29 minutes go from the 23rd floor to the 6th floor of Building 7.
The new filing asks Dr. Olthoff to include the additional evidence in the revisions that NIST has been requested to make to its report, since it is directly relevant to the claims already made in the original request.
AE911Truth and its fellow requesters are now awaiting Dr. Olthoff’s final decision, hoping he will direct the responsible NIST personnel to develop a new “Probable Collapse Sequence” that is consistent with evidence of explosions. Should Dr. Olthoff decline to order the requested revisions, AE911Truth plans to file suit against NIST for noncompliance with the Data Quality Act.
 

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9/11 Families and Experts Submit New Eyewitness Evidence of Explosions in Building 7
AE911Truth December 7, 2020
The National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST) claimed in its final report on the collapse of World Trade Center Building 7 that “there were no witness reports” of an explosion when the 47-story skyscraper fell straight into its footprint late in the afternoon of September 11, 2001.
That claim, long discredited by eyewitness reports of a shockwave ripping through the building and multiple explosions going off, was further challenged in a new filing made today by 9/11 families and Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth. The letter, sent to NIST as part of an ongoing effort to have the federal agency overhaul its report, provides the accounts of four reporters who were close to the scene as Building 7 went down.
Most notably, NY1 reporter Gigi Stone Woods, reporting at 6:30 PM, described a “loud, incredibly loud explosion.” A second NY1 reporter, Annika Pergament, reporting at 5:30 PM, said, “You could feel the ground rumble.” WABC’s Jeff Rossen recounted hearing a “tremble” from six blocks away. And Daily News reporter Peter DeMarco wrote, “[T]here was a rumble. The building’s top row of windows popped out. Then all the windows on the thirty-ninth floor popped out. Then the thirty-eighth floor. Pop! Pop! Pop! was all you heard until the building sunk into a rising cloud of gray.”
NY1 reporter Annika Pergament at 5:30 PM: “I mean, it was a rumble. You could feel the ground rumble.”
NY1 reporter Gigi Stone Woods at 6:30 PM: “All of a sudden, a loud, incredibly loud explosion.”
WABC reporter Jeff Rossen: “But when that building collapsed, you heard another tremble.”
The submission of these four eyewitness accounts is the latest filing in a pending “request for correction,” initiated in April of this year under the Data Quality Act, which asks NIST to reverse its conclusion that fires were the cause of the building’s sudden, total destruction. The original request identifies eight items of information in the NIST report that it argues violate NIST’s information quality standards.
NIST issued an initial denial in August, which AE911Truth denounced as “egregious” and a “mockery of the Data Quality Act.” Then, on September 28, 2020, AE911Truth and its fellow requesters filed an appeal, which is now under review by Dr. James K. Olthoff, NIST’s associate director for laboratory programs.
After the non-binding 60-day deadline for Dr. Olthoff to respond to the appeal came and went, AE911Truth and its fellow requesters moved to submit the additional eyewitness evidence, which had been brought to their attention only after they filed the appeal in September.
The collapse of Building 7 at 5:20 PM on 9/11: The east penthouse falls first. The structure then instantaneously goes into free fall.
In addition to the eyewitness accounts of the four reporters, the new filing includes the oral history of Lieutenant Brian Becker of the New York Fire Department.
Becker’s oral history is intended to bolster the claim made in the original request that two men who were attempting to evacuate Building 7 earlier in the day — Michael Hess, the New York City corporation counsel, and Barry Jennings, deputy director of the Emergency Services Department for the New York City Housing Authority — witnessed an explosion that trapped them in the building.
Hess and Jennings each appeared on television later that day describing what they had witnessed as an explosion, and Jennings continued to maintain — until his death in 2008 — that he witnessed multiple explosions while attempting to evacuate Building 7, including the initial one that caused the 6th floor landing he was standing on to give way.
NIST’s explanation that the event Hess and Jennings witnessed was not an explosion, but was damage caused by debris from the collapse of the North Tower, relies on the agency’s untenable claim that it took the two men from 9:59 AM until 10:28 AM to make it from the 23rd floor to the 6th floor — which averages out to one minute and 42 seconds to descend a single floor. The request argues that since Hess and Jennings must have reached the 6th floor much earlier than 10:28 AM, the event they witnessed could not have been caused by the collapse of the North Tower at 10:28 AM.
NIST: “As [Hess and Jennings] went to get into an elevator to go downstairs, the lights inside WTC 7 flickered as WTC 2 collapsed [at 9:59 AM]. At that point, the elevator they were attempting to catch no longer worked, so they started down the staircase. When they got to the 6th floor, WTC 1 collapsed [at 10:28 AM] . . . and the staircase filled with smoke and debris.”
The oral history of FDNY Lieutenant David Becker demonstrates that he and his team were easily able to descend 30 floors in the North Tower after the collapse of the South Tower at 9:59 AM, even while “checking floors intermittently on the way down.” Becker’s account thus proves beyond any doubt the implausibility of NIST’s claim that it took Hess and Jennings 29 minutes go from the 23rd floor to the 6th floor of Building 7.
The new filing asks Dr. Olthoff to include the additional evidence in the revisions that NIST has been requested to make to its report, since it is directly relevant to the claims already made in the original request.
AE911Truth and its fellow requesters are now awaiting Dr. Olthoff’s final decision, hoping he will direct the responsible NIST personnel to develop a new “Probable Collapse Sequence” that is consistent with evidence of explosions. Should Dr. Olthoff decline to order the requested revisions, AE911Truth plans to file suit against NIST for noncompliance with the Data Quality Act.
And yet in the very videos you spammed of the penthouse collapsing into the WTC7 19 seconds before the rest of the facade collapsed......there's no explosions.

If it was bombs that initated the collapse......where are they? Why did WTC 7 begin its collapse in silence? Actual controlled demolition is preceded by explosions.....and is ridiculously loud.

And of course, WTC7 was on fire. What system of explosive demolition can withstand a building fire? Explosives would have exploded, blasting wire would have melted, detonators would have detonated, the miles of wire connecting the charges would have melted.

While the FDNY watched the fire burn for hours, watched WTC7 bulge, lean and slowly structurally fail after it suffered catastrophic damage from falling debris. Don't take my word for it:

...also we were pretty sure that 7 World Trade Center would collapse. Early on, we saw a bulge in the southwest corner between floors 10 and 13, and we had put a transit on that and we were pretty sure she was going to collapse. You actually could see there was a visible bulge, it ran up about three floors. It came down about 5 o’clock in the afternoon, but by about 2 o’clock in the afternoon we realized this thing was going to collapse.

Deputy Chief Peter Hayden
And Deputy Chief Peter Hayden was hardly the only one:

The most important operational decision to be made that afternoon was the collapse had damaged 7 World Trade Center, which is about a 50 story building, at Vesey between West Broadway and Washington Street. It had very heavy fire on many floors and I ordered the evacuation of an area sufficient around to protect our members, so we had to give up some rescue operations that were going on at the time and back the people away far enough so that if 7 World Trade did collapse, we wouldn’t lose any more people.


We continued to operate on what we could from that distance and approximately an hour and a half after that order was giver., at 5:30 in the afternoon, World Trade Center collapsed completely I continued to operate at the scene….

Chief Daniel Nigro FDNY
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The FDNY pulled their people back from WTC 7 after they determined it would collapse due to fire and structural damage. They anticipated its collapse by hours.

Your conspiracy theory is not only a horribly bad explanation of events with huge, theory killing holes. Its completely unnecessary and contradicted by the FDNY which cites structural failure due to an unchecked fire and massive structural damage from falling debris from the World Trade Centers.

Who are an infinitely better source of information than you and your silly little conspiracies
 
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9/11 Families and Experts Submit New Eyewitness Evidence of Explosions in Building 7
AE911Truth December 7, 2020
The National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST) claimed in its final report on the collapse of World Trade Center Building 7 that “there were no witness reports” of an explosion when the 47-story skyscraper fell straight into its footprint late in the afternoon of September 11, 2001.
That claim, long discredited by eyewitness reports of a shockwave ripping through the building and multiple explosions going off, was further challenged in a new filing made today by 9/11 families and Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth. The letter, sent to NIST as part of an ongoing effort to have the federal agency overhaul its report, provides the accounts of four reporters who were close to the scene as Building 7 went down.
Most notably, NY1 reporter Gigi Stone Woods, reporting at 6:30 PM, described a “loud, incredibly loud explosion.” A second NY1 reporter, Annika Pergament, reporting at 5:30 PM, said, “You could feel the ground rumble.” WABC’s Jeff Rossen recounted hearing a “tremble” from six blocks away. And Daily News reporter Peter DeMarco wrote, “[T]here was a rumble. The building’s top row of windows popped out. Then all the windows on the thirty-ninth floor popped out. Then the thirty-eighth floor. Pop! Pop! Pop! was all you heard until the building sunk into a rising cloud of gray.”
NY1 reporter Annika Pergament at 5:30 PM: “I mean, it was a rumble. You could feel the ground rumble.”
NY1 reporter Gigi Stone Woods at 6:30 PM: “All of a sudden, a loud, incredibly loud explosion.”
WABC reporter Jeff Rossen: “But when that building collapsed, you heard another tremble.”
The submission of these four eyewitness accounts is the latest filing in a pending “request for correction,” initiated in April of this year under the Data Quality Act, which asks NIST to reverse its conclusion that fires were the cause of the building’s sudden, total destruction. The original request identifies eight items of information in the NIST report that it argues violate NIST’s information quality standards.
NIST issued an initial denial in August, which AE911Truth denounced as “egregious” and a “mockery of the Data Quality Act.” Then, on September 28, 2020, AE911Truth and its fellow requesters filed an appeal, which is now under review by Dr. James K. Olthoff, NIST’s associate director for laboratory programs.
After the non-binding 60-day deadline for Dr. Olthoff to respond to the appeal came and went, AE911Truth and its fellow requesters moved to submit the additional eyewitness evidence, which had been brought to their attention only after they filed the appeal in September.
The collapse of Building 7 at 5:20 PM on 9/11: The east penthouse falls first. The structure then instantaneously goes into free fall.
In addition to the eyewitness accounts of the four reporters, the new filing includes the oral history of Lieutenant Brian Becker of the New York Fire Department.
Becker’s oral history is intended to bolster the claim made in the original request that two men who were attempting to evacuate Building 7 earlier in the day — Michael Hess, the New York City corporation counsel, and Barry Jennings, deputy director of the Emergency Services Department for the New York City Housing Authority — witnessed an explosion that trapped them in the building.
Hess and Jennings each appeared on television later that day describing what they had witnessed as an explosion, and Jennings continued to maintain — until his death in 2008 — that he witnessed multiple explosions while attempting to evacuate Building 7, including the initial one that caused the 6th floor landing he was standing on to give way.
NIST’s explanation that the event Hess and Jennings witnessed was not an explosion, but was damage caused by debris from the collapse of the North Tower, relies on the agency’s untenable claim that it took the two men from 9:59 AM until 10:28 AM to make it from the 23rd floor to the 6th floor — which averages out to one minute and 42 seconds to descend a single floor. The request argues that since Hess and Jennings must have reached the 6th floor much earlier than 10:28 AM, the event they witnessed could not have been caused by the collapse of the North Tower at 10:28 AM.
NIST: “As [Hess and Jennings] went to get into an elevator to go downstairs, the lights inside WTC 7 flickered as WTC 2 collapsed [at 9:59 AM]. At that point, the elevator they were attempting to catch no longer worked, so they started down the staircase. When they got to the 6th floor, WTC 1 collapsed [at 10:28 AM] . . . and the staircase filled with smoke and debris.”
The oral history of FDNY Lieutenant David Becker demonstrates that he and his team were easily able to descend 30 floors in the North Tower after the collapse of the South Tower at 9:59 AM, even while “checking floors intermittently on the way down.” Becker’s account thus proves beyond any doubt the implausibility of NIST’s claim that it took Hess and Jennings 29 minutes go from the 23rd floor to the 6th floor of Building 7.
The new filing asks Dr. Olthoff to include the additional evidence in the revisions that NIST has been requested to make to its report, since it is directly relevant to the claims already made in the original request.
AE911Truth and its fellow requesters are now awaiting Dr. Olthoff’s final decision, hoping he will direct the responsible NIST personnel to develop a new “Probable Collapse Sequence” that is consistent with evidence of explosions. Should Dr. Olthoff decline to order the requested revisions, AE911Truth plans to file suit against NIST for noncompliance with the Data Quality Act.
And yet in the very videos you spammed of the penthouse collapsing into the WTC7 19 seconds before the rest of the facade collapsed......there's no explosions.

If it was bombs that initated the collapse......where are they? Why did WTC 7 begin its collapse in silence? Actual controlled demolition is preceded by explosions.....and is ridiculously loud.

And of course, WTC7 was on fire. What system of explosive demolition can withstand a building fire? Explosives would have exploded, blasting wire would have melted, detonators would have detonated, the miles of wire connecting the charges would have melted.

While the FDNY watched the fire burn for hours, watched WTC7 bulge, lean and slowly structurally fail after it suffered catastrophic damage from falling debris. Don't take my word for it:

...also we were pretty sure that 7 World Trade Center would collapse. Early on, we saw a bulge in the southwest corner between floors 10 and 13, and we had put a transit on that and we were pretty sure she was going to collapse. You actually could see there was a visible bulge, it ran up about three floors. It came down about 5 o’clock in the afternoon, but by about 2 o’clock in the afternoon we realized this thing was going to collapse.

Deputy Chief Peter Hayden
And Deputy Chief Peter Hayden was hardly the only one:

The most important operational decision to be made that afternoon was the collapse had damaged 7 World Trade Center, which is about a 50 story building, at Vesey between West Broadway and Washington Street. It had very heavy fire on many floors and I ordered the evacuation of an area sufficient around to protect our members, so we had to give up some rescue operations that were going on at the time and back the people away far enough so that if 7 World Trade did collapse, we wouldn’t lose any more people.


We continued to operate on what we could from that distance and approximately an hour and a half after that order was giver., at 5:30 in the afternoon, World Trade Center collapsed completely I continued to operate at the scene….

Chief Daniel Nigro FDNY
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The FDNY pulled their people back from WTC 7 after they determined it would collapse due to fire and structural damage. They anticipated its collapse by hours.

Your conspiracy theory is not only a horribly bad explanation of events with huge, theory killing holes. Its completely unnecessary and contradicted by the FDNY which cites structural failure due to an unchecked fire and massive structural damage from falling debris from the World Trade Centers.

Who are an infinitely better source of information than you and your silly little conspiracies
Military grade nano-thermite charges.

Marvin Bush was a director of Securacom from 1993 to 2000. [114] Bush was hired as part of a new management team when Securacom separated from Burns and Roe. It was just at that time that the PANYNJ and Kroll began planning for the extensive rebuilding of the security systems at the WTC complex. As his stint with Securacom ended, Marvin Bush became a principal in the company HCC Insurance, one of the insurance carriers for the World Trade Center. Bush was also a director of Kerrco, an oil company in Houston.

Bush was the cofounder of Winston partners in 1993, a company that benefited greatly from the War on Terror. In 2000, Winston Partners invested heavily in a defense
Kevin Ryan Demolition Access to the WTC Towers 29 contractor called AMSEC, that was 55% owned by SAIC. It has been noted that SAIC was not only the largest non-governmental contributor to the NIST WTC report, it was also a company that had expertise in nanothermite technology.
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The companies that designed and built the security systems for the WTC complex had strong connections to Saudi Arabia too. For example, Kroll Associates board member Raymond Mabus was the US Ambassador to Saudi Arabia, and all four of the WTC security implementation companies had completed major projects in Saudi Arabia. Former FBI director Louis Freeh, whose agency investigated al Qaeda-attributed terrorism from 1993 to 2001, is now the personal attorney for Saudi ambassador "Bandar Bush." 115 The Saudi government has been sued by thousands of 9/11 victim's family members due to the suspicion that Saudi Arabia helped to finance al Qaeda. 116 The Saudis hired the law firm of Bush Administration insider James Baker to defend them in that lawsuit.
 

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9/11 Families and Experts Submit New Eyewitness Evidence of Explosions in Building 7
AE911Truth December 7, 2020
The National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST) claimed in its final report on the collapse of World Trade Center Building 7 that “there were no witness reports” of an explosion when the 47-story skyscraper fell straight into its footprint late in the afternoon of September 11, 2001.
That claim, long discredited by eyewitness reports of a shockwave ripping through the building and multiple explosions going off, was further challenged in a new filing made today by 9/11 families and Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth. The letter, sent to NIST as part of an ongoing effort to have the federal agency overhaul its report, provides the accounts of four reporters who were close to the scene as Building 7 went down.
Most notably, NY1 reporter Gigi Stone Woods, reporting at 6:30 PM, described a “loud, incredibly loud explosion.” A second NY1 reporter, Annika Pergament, reporting at 5:30 PM, said, “You could feel the ground rumble.” WABC’s Jeff Rossen recounted hearing a “tremble” from six blocks away. And Daily News reporter Peter DeMarco wrote, “[T]here was a rumble. The building’s top row of windows popped out. Then all the windows on the thirty-ninth floor popped out. Then the thirty-eighth floor. Pop! Pop! Pop! was all you heard until the building sunk into a rising cloud of gray.”
NY1 reporter Annika Pergament at 5:30 PM: “I mean, it was a rumble. You could feel the ground rumble.”
NY1 reporter Gigi Stone Woods at 6:30 PM: “All of a sudden, a loud, incredibly loud explosion.”
WABC reporter Jeff Rossen: “But when that building collapsed, you heard another tremble.”
The submission of these four eyewitness accounts is the latest filing in a pending “request for correction,” initiated in April of this year under the Data Quality Act, which asks NIST to reverse its conclusion that fires were the cause of the building’s sudden, total destruction. The original request identifies eight items of information in the NIST report that it argues violate NIST’s information quality standards.
NIST issued an initial denial in August, which AE911Truth denounced as “egregious” and a “mockery of the Data Quality Act.” Then, on September 28, 2020, AE911Truth and its fellow requesters filed an appeal, which is now under review by Dr. James K. Olthoff, NIST’s associate director for laboratory programs.
After the non-binding 60-day deadline for Dr. Olthoff to respond to the appeal came and went, AE911Truth and its fellow requesters moved to submit the additional eyewitness evidence, which had been brought to their attention only after they filed the appeal in September.
The collapse of Building 7 at 5:20 PM on 9/11: The east penthouse falls first. The structure then instantaneously goes into free fall.
In addition to the eyewitness accounts of the four reporters, the new filing includes the oral history of Lieutenant Brian Becker of the New York Fire Department.
Becker’s oral history is intended to bolster the claim made in the original request that two men who were attempting to evacuate Building 7 earlier in the day — Michael Hess, the New York City corporation counsel, and Barry Jennings, deputy director of the Emergency Services Department for the New York City Housing Authority — witnessed an explosion that trapped them in the building.
Hess and Jennings each appeared on television later that day describing what they had witnessed as an explosion, and Jennings continued to maintain — until his death in 2008 — that he witnessed multiple explosions while attempting to evacuate Building 7, including the initial one that caused the 6th floor landing he was standing on to give way.
NIST’s explanation that the event Hess and Jennings witnessed was not an explosion, but was damage caused by debris from the collapse of the North Tower, relies on the agency’s untenable claim that it took the two men from 9:59 AM until 10:28 AM to make it from the 23rd floor to the 6th floor — which averages out to one minute and 42 seconds to descend a single floor. The request argues that since Hess and Jennings must have reached the 6th floor much earlier than 10:28 AM, the event they witnessed could not have been caused by the collapse of the North Tower at 10:28 AM.
NIST: “As [Hess and Jennings] went to get into an elevator to go downstairs, the lights inside WTC 7 flickered as WTC 2 collapsed [at 9:59 AM]. At that point, the elevator they were attempting to catch no longer worked, so they started down the staircase. When they got to the 6th floor, WTC 1 collapsed [at 10:28 AM] . . . and the staircase filled with smoke and debris.”
The oral history of FDNY Lieutenant David Becker demonstrates that he and his team were easily able to descend 30 floors in the North Tower after the collapse of the South Tower at 9:59 AM, even while “checking floors intermittently on the way down.” Becker’s account thus proves beyond any doubt the implausibility of NIST’s claim that it took Hess and Jennings 29 minutes go from the 23rd floor to the 6th floor of Building 7.
The new filing asks Dr. Olthoff to include the additional evidence in the revisions that NIST has been requested to make to its report, since it is directly relevant to the claims already made in the original request.
AE911Truth and its fellow requesters are now awaiting Dr. Olthoff’s final decision, hoping he will direct the responsible NIST personnel to develop a new “Probable Collapse Sequence” that is consistent with evidence of explosions. Should Dr. Olthoff decline to order the requested revisions, AE911Truth plans to file suit against NIST for noncompliance with the Data Quality Act.
And yet in the very videos you spammed of the penthouse collapsing into the WTC7 19 seconds before the rest of the facade collapsed......there's no explosions.

If it was bombs that initated the collapse......where are they? Why did WTC 7 begin its collapse in silence? Actual controlled demolition is preceded by explosions.....and is ridiculously loud.

And of course, WTC7 was on fire. What system of explosive demolition can withstand a building fire? Explosives would have exploded, blasting wire would have melted, detonators would have detonated, the miles of wire connecting the charges would have melted.

While the FDNY watched the fire burn for hours, watched WTC7 bulge, lean and slowly structurally fail after it suffered catastrophic damage from falling debris. Don't take my word for it:

...also we were pretty sure that 7 World Trade Center would collapse. Early on, we saw a bulge in the southwest corner between floors 10 and 13, and we had put a transit on that and we were pretty sure she was going to collapse. You actually could see there was a visible bulge, it ran up about three floors. It came down about 5 o’clock in the afternoon, but by about 2 o’clock in the afternoon we realized this thing was going to collapse.

Deputy Chief Peter Hayden
And Deputy Chief Peter Hayden was hardly the only one:

The most important operational decision to be made that afternoon was the collapse had damaged 7 World Trade Center, which is about a 50 story building, at Vesey between West Broadway and Washington Street. It had very heavy fire on many floors and I ordered the evacuation of an area sufficient around to protect our members, so we had to give up some rescue operations that were going on at the time and back the people away far enough so that if 7 World Trade did collapse, we wouldn’t lose any more people.


We continued to operate on what we could from that distance and approximately an hour and a half after that order was giver., at 5:30 in the afternoon, World Trade Center collapsed completely I continued to operate at the scene….

Chief Daniel Nigro FDNY
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The FDNY pulled their people back from WTC 7 after they determined it would collapse due to fire and structural damage. They anticipated its collapse by hours.

Your conspiracy theory is not only a horribly bad explanation of events with huge, theory killing holes. Its completely unnecessary and contradicted by the FDNY which cites structural failure due to an unchecked fire and massive structural damage from falling debris from the World Trade Centers.

Who are an infinitely better source of information than you and your silly little conspiracies
Military grade nano-thermite charges.

Marvin Bush was a director of Securacom from 1993 to 2000. [114] Bush was hired as part of a new management team when Securacom separated from Burns and Roe. It was just at that time that the PANYNJ and Kroll began planning for the extensive rebuilding of the security systems at the WTC complex. As his stint with Securacom ended, Marvin Bush became a principal in the company HCC Insurance, one of the insurance carriers for the World Trade Center. Bush was also a director of Kerrco, an oil company in Houston.

Bush was the cofounder of Winston partners in 1993, a company that benefited greatly from the War on Terror. In 2000, Winston Partners invested heavily in a defense
Kevin Ryan Demolition Access to the WTC Towers 29 contractor called AMSEC, that was 55% owned by SAIC. It has been noted that SAIC was not only the largest non-governmental contributor to the NIST WTC report, it was also a company that had expertise in nanothermite technology.
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What 'military grade' nanothermite?

Remember, there were no thermite reactions of any kind ever found. Before, during or after the collapse. Nor where there any sounds of explosives preceding the collapse. And the building was on fire....and would have rendered any system of explosive demolition a melted mess.

No building has ever been explosively demolished while ON FIRE. Nor where there ever any apparatus of explosives ever found.

Nor is there any such thing as a silent explosive.


Your explanation is just pure garbage.
 

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The companies that designed and built the security systems for the WTC complex had strong connections to Saudi Arabia too. For example, Kroll Associates board member Raymond Mabus was the US Ambassador to Saudi Arabia, and all four of the WTC security implementation companies had completed major projects in Saudi Arabia. Former FBI director Louis Freeh, whose agency investigated al Qaeda-attributed terrorism from 1993 to 2001, is now the personal attorney for Saudi ambassador "Bandar Bush." 115 The Saudi government has been sued by thousands of 9/11 victim's family members due to the suspicion that Saudi Arabia helped to finance al Qaeda. 116 The Saudis hired the law firm of Bush Administration insider James Baker to defend them in that lawsuit.
So your working theory is that Raymond Mabus, with no operational involvement in the company whatsoever, somehow planted all those imaginary 'bombs' himself.....because he was once an ambassador?

And no one ever noticed, despite the Port Authority Bomb squad and their bomb sniffing dogs inspecting the entire WTC plaza only 6 days before the attack?

That's got to be a contender for the stupidest fucking thing you've ever argued.
 
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Nor where there any sounds of explosives preceding the collapse. And the building was on fire....and would have rendered any system of explosive demolition a melted mess.

No building has ever been explosively demolished while ON FIRE. Nor where there ever any apparatus of explosives ever found.
Well then it looks like you covered your tracks well.
Why do seem so worried ?
 

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Nor where there any sounds of explosives preceding the collapse. And the building was on fire....and would have rendered any system of explosive demolition a melted mess.

No building has ever been explosively demolished while ON FIRE. Nor where there ever any apparatus of explosives ever found.
Well then it looks like you covered your tracks well.
Why do seem so worried ?
So we're supposed to be convinced by the comic LACK of any evidence backing anything you've imagined?

Laughing......no wonder you're so angry.
 
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Bypassing the troll stench.

It's good to keep it fresh in people's minds
that there was never a criminal investigation performed following the destruction of the 3 WTC towers on 9/11, and there are still many unanswered questions.

We are the citizen journalists and investigators who will always pursue truth and justice, despite being labelled 'conspiracy theorists'.

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Bypassing the troll stench.

It's good to keep it fresh in people's minds
that there was never a criminal investigation performed following the destruction of the 3 WTC towers on 9/11, and there are still many unanswered questions.

We are the citizen journalists and investigators who will always pursue truth and justice, despite being labelled 'conspiracy theorists'.

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We must applaud Mr. Richard Gage and his colleagues, Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth, for their tenacity in seeking to answer lingering questions concerning the total destruction of the World Trade Center complex, in particular Buildings 1, 2, and 7.
Ah, the spamming begins.

And you don't want Truth. You want conspiracy lies. And you'll ignore anything to cling to your conspiracy.

Remember when you insisted that no one had ever been able to explain how the BBC knew that WTC7 was coming down before it collapsed? I showed you that the FDNY had assessed WTC7 after it had been catastrophically damaged by falling debris from the WTC collapses. As the fires in WTC7 burned uncontrolled.....they measured the building's structural failure, the bulges that appeared at the corner, the building leaning....

.....and the FDNY determined around 2PM that the WTC7 would collapse. So they evacuated the area, warning folks that WTC7 would collapse.

There was your answer. I provided you with quotes from the FDNY on scene who made the assessment and pulled their fighting effort. Did you thank me for answering your question?

Of course not. You ignored the answer, called all the FDNY liars and then insisted that they were in on 911. You ignored answers and evidence to cling to your batshit conspiracy theory.

You simply have no interest in Truth.
 

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Ah, the spamming begins.

And you don't want Truth. You want conspiracy lies. And you'll ignore anything to cling to your conspiracy.
That ^^ is spamming.
That's a demonstration that you don't want the Truth. You want conspiracy lies.

As when provided with the very answer you demanded.......with direct quotes from the FDNY to back it up.....you ignored it all and just folded the FDNY into your silly conspiracy.

That is what folks keep fresh in their mind when assessing your conspiracy: how much desperate, willful ignorance is required of you to hold these silly views.
 
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Ad hominim attacks every post only proves you're
a shill at best....probably a low level troll --at a desk --wannabe agent.
Get a life comrade.....join me in the light.
 

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Ad hominim attacks every post only proves you're
a shill at best....probably a low level troll --at a desk --wannabe agent.
Get a life comrade.....join me in the light.
You're the one that posted 'We are the citizen journalists and investigators who will always pursue truth and justice, despite being labelled 'conspiracy theorists'.

But you're not pursuing truth at all. You're actively ignoring any evidence that contradicts your conspiracy lies.

As demonstrated by you ignoring the very answer you asked for on how the BBC knew that the WTC7 was going to collapse half an hour before it fell. The FDNY told them when they evacuated the area around WTC7 after determining that the building would collapse due to fire and catastrophic structural damage.

You just folded the FDNY into your conspiracy, insisting that "they were in on it too".

That's not a 'search for truth'. That's ignoring the truth and clinging to a failed conspiracy.
 
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Ad hominim attacks every post only proves you're
a shill at best....probably a low level troll --at a desk --wannabe agent.
Get a life comrade.....join me in the light.
You're the one that posted 'We are the citizen journalists and investigators who will always pursue truth and justice, despite being labelled 'conspiracy theorists'.

But you're not pursuing truth at all. You're actively ignoring any evidence that contradicts your conspiracy lies.

As demonstrated by you ignoring the very answer you asked for on how the BBC knew that the WTC7 was going to collapse half an hour before it fell. The FDNY told them when they evacuated the area around WTC7 after determining that the building would collapse due to fire and catastrophic structural damage.

You just folded the FDNY into your conspiracy, insisting that "they were in on it too".

That's not a 'search for truth'. That's ignoring the truth and clinging to a failed conspiracy.
Repeating your same talking points won't win for you here.
My goal has already been achieved by putting the information out here for everyone to see and form their own views.

And if you believe that cluttering up my thread with redundant arguments, repeating debunked fallacies as if they're true, insults and name-calling, and basically just screaming "I'M RIGHT AND YOU"RE WRONG !" is winning for you, then by all means, keep it up.
 

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Ad hominim attacks every post only proves you're
a shill at best....probably a low level troll --at a desk --wannabe agent.
Get a life comrade.....join me in the light.
You're the one that posted 'We are the citizen journalists and investigators who will always pursue truth and justice, despite being labelled 'conspiracy theorists'.

But you're not pursuing truth at all. You're actively ignoring any evidence that contradicts your conspiracy lies.

As demonstrated by you ignoring the very answer you asked for on how the BBC knew that the WTC7 was going to collapse half an hour before it fell. The FDNY told them when they evacuated the area around WTC7 after determining that the building would collapse due to fire and catastrophic structural damage.

You just folded the FDNY into your conspiracy, insisting that "they were in on it too".

That's not a 'search for truth'. That's ignoring the truth and clinging to a failed conspiracy.
Repeating your same talking points won't win for you here.
My goal has already been achieved by putting the information out here for everyone to see and form their own views.

And if you believe that cluttering up my thread with redundant arguments, repeating debunked fallacies as if they're true, insults and name-calling, and basically just screaming "I'M RIGHT AND YOU"RE WRONG !" is winning for you, then by all means, keep it up.
Or....quoting the FDNY fire fighters who answer your question. And forcing you to fold them into your conspiracy batshit. Demonstrating that you don't want truth.....but to just cling to your conspiracy lies.


..also we were pretty sure that 7 World Trade Center would collapse. Early on, we saw a bulge in the southwest corner between floors 10 and 13, and we had put a transit on that and we were pretty sure she was going to collapse. You actually could see there was a visible bulge, it ran up about three floors. It came down about 5 o’clock in the afternoon, but by about 2 o’clock in the afternoon we realized this thing was going to collapse.

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You have your answer on how the BBC knew. Yet you ignore the answer and cling to your conspiracy nonsense. Even folding the FDNY into your conspiracy to do it.

Thank you for demonstrating that you don't give the slightest fuck about the truth.
 
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