The Official Discussion Thread for who is considered indiginous to Palestine?

[MartyNYC]

innovation
noun
1: a new idea, method, or device : NOVELTY
2: the introduction of something new

Ok, I agree, they are a novelty.
innovation

noun
1: a new idea, method, or device : NOVELTY
2: the introduction of something new

novelty
noun
nov·el·ty ˈnä-vəl-tē
pluralnovelties
1
: something new or unusual

Yes, I agree, they are unusual
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“Israel The Economic Miracle”: “Israel is the fastest-growing and one of the most dynamic, entrepreneurial, and innovation-based economies on the planet.”

 

[MartyNYC]

bla, bla, bla.
Please entertain yourself here--
While I am here, visit this site instead,
https://tinyurl.com/2p8a3s9n

Princeton University: “Bernard Lewis has been called the most eminent living historian of the Middle East. Sukru Hanioglu, Chairman of the Department of Near Eastern Studies, said Lewis is “considered one of the deans of the field. He is the author of numerous pathbreaking scholarly works that set academic standards all over the world. This latest recognition (National Endowment For The Humanities Medal) follows a long list of sterling academic accomplishments, and we commend our distinguished colleague for his brilliant and most productive academic career.”

Fagles, Lewis awarded National Humanities Medal - 11/20/2006 - PWB - Princeton

National Endowment for the Humanities: “Bernard Lewis famed scholar of the Middle East, 1990 Jefferson Lecturer, 2006 National Humanities Medalist. As a humanist he had few peers; as a scholar of the Middle East his contributions were foundational.”

Statement from National Endowment for the Humanities on the Death of Bernard Lewis

 

[watchingfromafar]

National Endowment for the Humanities:

Google "IDF shooting children"
Nov 23, 2004 - Radio exchange contradicts army version of Gaza killing.
https://tinyurl.com/ybk8lvmq

Israel 'killed 25 Palestinian children' in three months
Twenty-five Palestinian children were killed in the last three months of 2015 during a wave of anti-Israeli attacks and the number detained was the highest in seven years, according to the UNICEF.
https://tinyurl.com/y92tvluh

2016 'deadliest year' for West Bank children in decade
Israeli forces killed 32 Palestinian children in the West Bank in 2016, the highest number in 10 years.

The organisation's chapter in the occupied Palestinian territories recorded the killings of 32 Palestinian children (under 18), making 2016 "the deadliest year of the past decade" for them, the group said in a recent report.
https://tinyurl.com/y85ctr7v

12 yr old boy SHOT DEAD in front of your eyes
Updated 9.48 p.m., 3rd Oct 2000
http://www.themodernreligion.com/jihad/sniper.html

Gaza girl said killed
By Amos Harel and Nir Hasson, Haaretz Correspondents,
and Haaretz Service

IDF troops shot and killed an 8-year-old Palestinian girl who was on her way to school in a Gaza Strip refugee camp
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/494672.html

UN officials: Girl hit by IDF gunfire in UN school in Gaza
By Amos Harel, Haaretz Correspondent and AP

An 11-year-old Palestinian girl was shot in the stomach and critically wounded by Israel Defense Forces gunfire. IDF troops fired two shots, one of the shots hit a fifth-grade student at the school. Last month, a 10-year-old girl was killed by IDF gunfire while sitting at her desk at the same school.
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/487788.html

United Nations Relief and Works Agency for Palestine Refugees in the Near East (UNRWA) 7 September 2004 At 07:45 10-year old Raghda Adnan Al-Assar was struck in the head by Israeli fire while sitting at her desk in UNRWA's Elementary

Girl's School On June 1 this year two ten-year old children in UNRWA's

Al-Umariye Elementary Boys' School in Rafah were hit by a bullet from a Israeli tank

12-year old Hoda Darwish was hit in the head by a bullet fired Two 10 year-old schoolchildren were shot in the al-Omaria school run by UNRWA in Rafah, when an Israeli tank fired into their classroom.
Bullets fired from the tank flew through the classroom window, hitting Mahmoud Hamad in the neck and Hisham al Habil in the head. The boys had not even been sitting by the windows but in the middle of the room. (this was an assassination of specific children by the IDF)

http://www.palestinemonitor.org/index.html

Photos of a 12 year old palestinian boy being shot by Israeli soldiers and the ambulance driver who tried to save him also being shot and killed.
palestine-net.com

Three-year-old Rawan Abu Zeid, who took bullets in the neck and head while buying candy with her friends.

The New Yorker’s Israel: Where Objectivity Fails

An eight-year-old Palestinian girl shot dead by Israeli troops in the central Gaza Strip was killed while showing off her new school uniform to friends
http://tinyurl.com/99kh8zk

Boy of 17, shot by Israeli soldiers, left bleeding overnight to die

The bullet ridden corpse of Mohammad Abdullah Abu al-Husni, was found yesterday morning near the town of Jabaliya, where he lived in Gaza.
http://www.palestinemonitor.org/updates/left_to_die.htm

Haneen, who was eight years old, had been shot twice in the head by an Israeli soldier as she walked down the street in Khan Yunis refugee camp with her mother.
She was coming down the street and ran to me and hugged me, crying,

'Mother, mother'. Two bullets hit her in the head, one straight after the other.

She was still in my arms and she died."

'I can't imagine anyone who considers himself a human being can do this'

This boy was in his own house and an IDF soldier barges into the house and shoots him dead Mohammed a 7-year-old boy fell dead, still clutching his piece of bread.
Israel Army action breeds fresh hatred

Israel Baby is born then dies
Birth and death at the checkpoint
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/338937.html

Three shot in the back by Israeli snipers, one a 15-year-old boy
15 year old boy who was shot while standing in front of his house. The sniper bulet hit Amjad in the back. He died on his way to the hospital. The second is Amer Kathym Arafat who was also shot in the back by a sniper bullet. The third is Rouhi Hazem Shouman, 25, who was also shot in the back by a sniper.
http://www.palestinemonitor.org/appeals/lift_the_siege.htm

Three-year-old Rawan Abu Zeid, who took bullets in the neck and head while buying candy with her friends.
The New Yorker’s Israel: Where Objectivity Fails

The US news never covered these murders
Please tell me why?​

 

[Roudy]

I don't have handlers. There weren't many Jews in Medina and they were judged by their own laws. The story is grossly exaggerated by Jewish people.. Justification?

Wow, really. is that all you got? “there weren’t that many Jews in Medina”? So it must have been ok to kill them. No big deal.

Medina was a Jewish city and the center of Jewish life in Saudi Arabia, until Mohammad arrived and threatened thme to submit to him as the final messenger or else. And when they bravely refused, Mohammad and his Jihadi goons that were promised virgins in heaven and justified rape and theft as Hallal during any conquest in the name of Islam committed genocide and ethnic cleansing upon the Jews of Medina.

At least tell your imam to tell you the truth as opposed to this Neanderthal Islamic response “meh there weren’t that many Jews, what’s a few dead Jews here and there to us IslamoNazis, it’s all a gross exaggeration!”

So tell us, did Mohammad commit genocide upon those “few Jews” or not? You might want to ask your handler for a straight answer.

 

[surada]

Wow, really. is that all you got? “there weren’t that many Jews in Medina”? So it must have been ok to kill them. No big deal.

Medina was a Jewish city and the center of Jewish life in Saudi Arabia, until Mohammad arrived and threatened thme to submit to him as the final messenger or else. And when they bravely refused, Mohammad and his Jihadi goons that were promised virgins in heaven and justified rape and theft as Hallal during any conquest in the name of Islam committed genocide and ethnic cleansing upon the Jews of Medina.

At least tell your imam to tell you the truth as opposed to this Neanderthal Islamic response “meh there weren’t that many Jews, what’s a few dead Jews here and there to us IslamoNazis, it’s all a gross exaggeration!”

So tell us, did Mohammad commit genocide upon those “few Jews” or not? You might want to ask your handler for a straight answer.

Nope. Medina wasn't a Jewish city. The Jews who lived there betrayed Muhammad and their agreements. You forget this came after the Jewish king burned the Christians of Najran because they wouldn't convert. That event wasn't good for the Jewish people.

It was 90 men, not 900.

I'm neither a Muslim nor an Arab. I'm an Episcopalian.

 

[Mindful]

Do you recall that Sargon 2 settled four Arab tribes in Samaria around 500 BC?

No, l don’t recall it. I wasn’t around back then.

 

[surada]

No, l don’t recall it. I wasn’t around back then.

It's the reason that Samaritans we're considered half breeds and not real Jews.

 

[Mindful]

It's the reason that Samaritans we're considered half breeds and not real Jews.

The reason being: l wasn’t around back then?

 

[JoeB131]

 

[surada]

The reason being: l wasn’t around back then?

So you dismiss history.

 

[Mindful]

So you dismiss history.

Do l?

 

[MartyNYC]

Google "IDF shooting children"
Nov 23, 2004 - Radio exchange contradicts army version of Gaza killing.
https://tinyurl.com/ybk8lvmq

Israel 'killed 25 Palestinian children' in three months
Twenty-five Palestinian children were killed in the last three months of 2015 during a wave of anti-Israeli attacks and the number detained was the highest in seven years, according to the UNICEF.
https://tinyurl.com/y92tvluh

2016 'deadliest year' for West Bank children in decade
Israeli forces killed 32 Palestinian children in the West Bank in 2016, the highest number in 10 years.

The organisation's chapter in the occupied Palestinian territories recorded the killings of 32 Palestinian children (under 18), making 2016 "the deadliest year of the past decade" for them, the group said in a recent report.
https://tinyurl.com/y85ctr7v

12 yr old boy SHOT DEAD in front of your eyes
Updated 9.48 p.m., 3rd Oct 2000
http://www.themodernreligion.com/jihad/sniper.html

Gaza girl said killed
By Amos Harel and Nir Hasson, Haaretz Correspondents,
and Haaretz Service

IDF troops shot and killed an 8-year-old Palestinian girl who was on her way to school in a Gaza Strip refugee camp
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/494672.html

UN officials: Girl hit by IDF gunfire in UN school in Gaza
By Amos Harel, Haaretz Correspondent and AP

An 11-year-old Palestinian girl was shot in the stomach and critically wounded by Israel Defense Forces gunfire. IDF troops fired two shots, one of the shots hit a fifth-grade student at the school. Last month, a 10-year-old girl was killed by IDF gunfire while sitting at her desk at the same school.
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/487788.html

United Nations Relief and Works Agency for Palestine Refugees in the Near East (UNRWA) 7 September 2004 At 07:45 10-year old Raghda Adnan Al-Assar was struck in the head by Israeli fire while sitting at her desk in UNRWA's Elementary

Girl's School On June 1 this year two ten-year old children in UNRWA's

Al-Umariye Elementary Boys' School in Rafah were hit by a bullet from a Israeli tank

12-year old Hoda Darwish was hit in the head by a bullet fired Two 10 year-old schoolchildren were shot in the al-Omaria school run by UNRWA in Rafah, when an Israeli tank fired into their classroom.
Bullets fired from the tank flew through the classroom window, hitting Mahmoud Hamad in the neck and Hisham al Habil in the head. The boys had not even been sitting by the windows but in the middle of the room. (this was an assassination of specific children by the IDF)

http://www.palestinemonitor.org/index.html

Photos of a 12 year old palestinian boy being shot by Israeli soldiers and the ambulance driver who tried to save him also being shot and killed.
palestine-net.com

Three-year-old Rawan Abu Zeid, who took bullets in the neck and head while buying candy with her friends.

The New Yorker’s Israel: Where Objectivity Fails

An eight-year-old Palestinian girl shot dead by Israeli troops in the central Gaza Strip was killed while showing off her new school uniform to friends
http://tinyurl.com/99kh8zk

Boy of 17, shot by Israeli soldiers, left bleeding overnight to die

The bullet ridden corpse of Mohammad Abdullah Abu al-Husni, was found yesterday morning near the town of Jabaliya, where he lived in Gaza.
http://www.palestinemonitor.org/updates/left_to_die.htm

Haneen, who was eight years old, had been shot twice in the head by an Israeli soldier as she walked down the street in Khan Yunis refugee camp with her mother.
She was coming down the street and ran to me and hugged me, crying,

'Mother, mother'. Two bullets hit her in the head, one straight after the other.

She was still in my arms and she died."

'I can't imagine anyone who considers himself a human being can do this'

This boy was in his own house and an IDF soldier barges into the house and shoots him dead Mohammed a 7-year-old boy fell dead, still clutching his piece of bread.
Israel Army action breeds fresh hatred

Israel Baby is born then dies
Birth and death at the checkpoint
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/338937.html

Three shot in the back by Israeli snipers, one a 15-year-old boy
15 year old boy who was shot while standing in front of his house. The sniper bulet hit Amjad in the back. He died on his way to the hospital. The second is Amer Kathym Arafat who was also shot in the back by a sniper bullet. The third is Rouhi Hazem Shouman, 25, who was also shot in the back by a sniper.
http://www.palestinemonitor.org/appeals/lift_the_siege.htm

Three-year-old Rawan Abu Zeid, who took bullets in the neck and head while buying candy with her friends.
The New Yorker’s Israel: Where Objectivity Fails

The US news never covered these murders
Please tell me why?​

“3,000th Palestinian Child Receives Free Heart Surgery By Israeli Charity” “When the doctors told us there was a possibility for Israeli doctors to carry out the complicated operation Amir needed, we were so happy. Everyone here in Gaza talks about how Israeli doctors are the most professional in the world and that they can be trusted completely,” Amir’s mother said.”

3,000th Palestinian child has heart operation in Israel through Save a Child’s Heart

 

[MartyNYC]

No, l don’t recall it. I wasn’t around back then.

Sargon was not an Arab nor did he settle Arabs.

 

[MartyNYC]

Nope. Medina wasn't a Jewish city. The Jews who lived there betrayed Muhammad and their agreements. You forget this came after the Jewish king burned the Christians of Najran because they wouldn't convert. That event wasn't good for the Jewish people.

It was 90 men, not 900.

I'm neither a Muslim nor an Arab. I'm an Episcopalian.

Medina was predominantly Jewish before Muhammad would have arrived. If he even existed, which scholars are skeptical about. Jews had inhabited Arabia since at least the 6th century BCE, many centuries before Arabians identified as Arabs, a generic word that designated nomads.

 

[surada]

Medina was predominantly Jewish before Muhammad would have arrived. If he even existed, which scholars are skeptical about. Jews had inhabited Arabia since at least the 6th century BCE, many centuries before Arabians identified as Arabs, a generic word that designated nomads.

2nd century BC.

Most Arabs lived in villages. They had a symbiotic relationship with the Bedouin which was essential to the survival of both. When you understand the details of that mutual dependency, you will also know more about the Jews.

You have no claim to Saudi Arabia.

History of the Jews in Saudi Arabia - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

 

[MartyNYC]

2nd century BC.

Most Arabs lived in villages. They had a symbiotic relationship with the Bedouin which was essential to the survival of both. When you understand the details of that mutual dependency, you will also know more about the Jews.

You have no claim to Saudi Arabia.

History of the Jews in Saudi Arabia - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

You know less than nothing.

 

[MartyNYC]

Google "IDF shooting children"
Nov 23, 2004 - Radio exchange contradicts army version of Gaza killing.
https://tinyurl.com/ybk8lvmq

Israel 'killed 25 Palestinian children' in three months
Twenty-five Palestinian children were killed in the last three months of 2015 during a wave of anti-Israeli attacks and the number detained was the highest in seven years, according to the UNICEF.
https://tinyurl.com/y92tvluh

2016 'deadliest year' for West Bank children in decade
Israeli forces killed 32 Palestinian children in the West Bank in 2016, the highest number in 10 years.

The organisation's chapter in the occupied Palestinian territories recorded the killings of 32 Palestinian children (under 18), making 2016 "the deadliest year of the past decade" for them, the group said in a recent report.
https://tinyurl.com/y85ctr7v

12 yr old boy SHOT DEAD in front of your eyes
Updated 9.48 p.m., 3rd Oct 2000
http://www.themodernreligion.com/jihad/sniper.html

Gaza girl said killed
By Amos Harel and Nir Hasson, Haaretz Correspondents,
and Haaretz Service

IDF troops shot and killed an 8-year-old Palestinian girl who was on her way to school in a Gaza Strip refugee camp
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/494672.html

UN officials: Girl hit by IDF gunfire in UN school in Gaza
By Amos Harel, Haaretz Correspondent and AP

An 11-year-old Palestinian girl was shot in the stomach and critically wounded by Israel Defense Forces gunfire. IDF troops fired two shots, one of the shots hit a fifth-grade student at the school. Last month, a 10-year-old girl was killed by IDF gunfire while sitting at her desk at the same school.
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/487788.html

United Nations Relief and Works Agency for Palestine Refugees in the Near East (UNRWA) 7 September 2004 At 07:45 10-year old Raghda Adnan Al-Assar was struck in the head by Israeli fire while sitting at her desk in UNRWA's Elementary

Girl's School On June 1 this year two ten-year old children in UNRWA's

Al-Umariye Elementary Boys' School in Rafah were hit by a bullet from a Israeli tank

12-year old Hoda Darwish was hit in the head by a bullet fired Two 10 year-old schoolchildren were shot in the al-Omaria school run by UNRWA in Rafah, when an Israeli tank fired into their classroom.
Bullets fired from the tank flew through the classroom window, hitting Mahmoud Hamad in the neck and Hisham al Habil in the head. The boys had not even been sitting by the windows but in the middle of the room. (this was an assassination of specific children by the IDF)

http://www.palestinemonitor.org/index.html

Photos of a 12 year old palestinian boy being shot by Israeli soldiers and the ambulance driver who tried to save him also being shot and killed.
palestine-net.com

Three-year-old Rawan Abu Zeid, who took bullets in the neck and head while buying candy with her friends.

The New Yorker’s Israel: Where Objectivity Fails

An eight-year-old Palestinian girl shot dead by Israeli troops in the central Gaza Strip was killed while showing off her new school uniform to friends
http://tinyurl.com/99kh8zk

Boy of 17, shot by Israeli soldiers, left bleeding overnight to die

The bullet ridden corpse of Mohammad Abdullah Abu al-Husni, was found yesterday morning near the town of Jabaliya, where he lived in Gaza.
http://www.palestinemonitor.org/updates/left_to_die.htm

Haneen, who was eight years old, had been shot twice in the head by an Israeli soldier as she walked down the street in Khan Yunis refugee camp with her mother.
She was coming down the street and ran to me and hugged me, crying,

'Mother, mother'. Two bullets hit her in the head, one straight after the other.

She was still in my arms and she died."

'I can't imagine anyone who considers himself a human being can do this'

This boy was in his own house and an IDF soldier barges into the house and shoots him dead Mohammed a 7-year-old boy fell dead, still clutching his piece of bread.
Israel Army action breeds fresh hatred

Israel Baby is born then dies
Birth and death at the checkpoint
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/338937.html

Three shot in the back by Israeli snipers, one a 15-year-old boy
15 year old boy who was shot while standing in front of his house. The sniper bulet hit Amjad in the back. He died on his way to the hospital. The second is Amer Kathym Arafat who was also shot in the back by a sniper bullet. The third is Rouhi Hazem Shouman, 25, who was also shot in the back by a sniper.
http://www.palestinemonitor.org/appeals/lift_the_siege.htm

Three-year-old Rawan Abu Zeid, who took bullets in the neck and head while buying candy with her friends.
The New Yorker’s Israel: Where Objectivity Fails

The US news never covered these murders
Please tell me why?​

Son of Hamas founder: Hamas wants death of palestinians



United Arab Emirates: Israel is a peace-seeking nation

 

[surada]

You know less than nothing.

It's alright. Stay stupid.

 

[MartyNYC]

So you dismiss history.

It's alright. Stay stupid.

Your picture is in the dictionary for the word “stupid.”

 

[surada]

Son of Hamas founder: Hamas wants death of palestinians



United Arab Emirates: Israel is a peace-seeking nation

A just peace with the Palestinians is important. The Saudi Peace initiative is 20 years old.. consider the wasted years.