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We didn't have a fifth bomb or a fourth bomb.
The leading cause of death in Japan is heart disease.
Japan was worse than the Nazis, with their sort of weird racist imperial worship of a man god. And don't forget to mention special UNIT 731. Or the rape of Nanking. The mass murders and atrocities the Japanese committed. Lets not forget that America tried to stop them by embargoing them and that's why the Japanese choose to attack us on December 7th 1941.
The problem with your comment is that you fail to realize that Joe doesn't give a shit about actual history. All he cares about is trying to rewrite and then convincing people to believe is insane bullshit.
.“It was a mistake.... [the scientists] had this toy and they wanted to try it out, so they dropped it.” —Adm. William “Bull” Halsey
.He most certainly did. Have some self-respect and drop the fucking hero-worship. That blood-thirsty, racist, arrogant son of a bitch is not worth it....And no, FDR did not "reject"...
MacArthur penned a 40-page letter to fdr himself outlining the peace overtures that he personally had learned of. This was even before Yalta. The scumbag fdr tossed it aside saying “MacArthur is our greatest general and our poorest politician.” Human life - of American servicemen or civilians anywhere - meant nothing more to him than a political game piece.
The Folly of War
American historian and political scientist Schmidt's attitude about war changed abruptly in 1991 when a colleague asked him if he would sacrifice his only son to (the first) Bush's (first) war on Iraq. He offers a critical review of US wars from the great hysteria of the Spanish-American War to...books.google.com
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Great post, which is why the American imperialists ignored it..He most certainly did. Have some self-respect and drop the fucking hero-worship. That blood-thirsty, racist, arrogant son of a bitch is not worth it....And no, FDR did not "reject"...
MacArthur penned a 40-page letter to fdr himself outlining the peace overtures that he personally had learned of. This was even before Yalta. The scumbag fdr tossed it aside saying “MacArthur is our greatest general and our poorest politician.” Human life - of American servicemen or civilians anywhere - meant nothing more to him than a political game piece.
The Folly of War
American historian and political scientist Schmidt's attitude about war changed abruptly in 1991 when a colleague asked him if he would sacrifice his only son to (the first) Bush's (first) war on Iraq. He offers a critical review of US wars from the great hysteria of the Spanish-American War to...books.google.com
You’re not informed. The Japanese tried to surrender several times. All ignored by the blood thirsty FDR and Dirty Harry..
OK, interesting find.
For those that do not know, the link is of a Top Secret coded message from their Diplomatic Corps we decoded, which was highly classified and only for internal use. And indeed it does discuss the possible surrender, but that Potsdam was completely unacceptable.
Now, once again, where did they make this announcement to the world?
This can not be taken seriously at all, it was an internal communication, not something they sent to anybody other than themselves. And WWII is full of bogus communications. We ourselves did this, sending out messages from our Pacific outposts, then because we had broken Japanese codes read what they said about our communications to determine their code names for various places.
That is how we were able to do what we did at Midway. We sent a message which claimed their water purification equipment was broken and water was needed. We were then able to intercept a message telling the Japanese command to prepare their invasion fleet with more water purification systems, therefore we knew where the attack was going to happen.
There was no problem with the water, we sent a series of messages for a week, with each of our islands reporting various problems. We knew an attack was coming, and by reading their mail we were able to figure out which island was the target based on how they talked about it.
And why would anybody think that Japan would be any less fanatical in fighting than Germany was? They fought on to the bitter end, their entire nation utterly destroyed and still did not surrender. Does anybody think Japan would have been different?
Displaying a classified memo that we broke is nothing even close to their telling anybody that they were willing to surrender, or willing to negotiate. In fact, in other parts of that same decrypted memo it talks about the Japanese claiming they will "fight to the bitter end" for Shanghai, and refused to even consider allowing the civilians to evacuate or to allow a safety zone for them to go to in order to avoid the fighting.
Does this in any way sound like the actions of a country about to surrender? It is kind of like Dr. Strangelove if this is to be taken seriously.
Dr. Strangelove: Of course, the whole point of a Doomsday Machine is lost, if you *keep* it a *secret*! Why didn't you tell the world, eh?
Even a comedy gets the fallacy of your claim. What is the point of attempting to surrender, if you keep it a secret and do not bother to tell anybody you want to surrender?
That’s a great column and clearly blows up the belief the bombs forced Japan to surrender and saved American lives. I Don’t expect the American imperialist to read it."The record is quite clear: From the perspective of an overwhelming number of key contemporary leaders in the US military, the dropping of atomic bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki was not a matter of military necessity. American intelligence had broken the Japanese codes, knew the Japanese government was trying to negotiate surrender through Moscow, and had long advised that the expected early August Russian declaration of war, along with assurances that Japan’s Emperor would be allowed to stay as a powerless figurehead, would bring surrender long before the first step in a November US invasion, three months later, could begin. "
The problem with your comment is that you fail to realize that Joe doesn't give a shit about actual history. All he cares about is trying to rewrite and then convincing people to believe is insane bullshit.
And as you can see, our stockpile at the end of 1945 was 2 completed warheads (bombs 3 and 4). And in 1946 we started our testing at the Bikini Atol.
The suicide rate has been falling in Japan over the past decade, and is currently at its lowest level.The leading cause of death in Japan is heart disease.
Well no duh, did I ever say it was not?
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One, two! One, two! Move those goal posts! Put your back into it!...Now, once again, where did they make this announcement to the world?
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Whoo! Be careful! You're gonna get dizzy from all that spinning!.
OK, interesting find.
For those that do not know, the link is of a Top Secret coded message from their Diplomatic Corps we decoded, which was highly classified and only for internal use. And indeed it does discuss the possible surrender, but that Potsdam was completely unacceptable.
Now, once again, where did they make this announcement to the world?
This can not be taken seriously at all, it was an internal communication, not something they sent to anybody other than themselves. And WWII is full of bogus communications. We ourselves did this, sending out messages from our Pacific outposts, then because we had broken Japanese codes read what they said about our communications to determine their code names for various places.
That is how we were able to do what we did at Midway. We sent a message which claimed their water purification equipment was broken and water was needed. We were then able to intercept a message telling the Japanese command to prepare their invasion fleet with more water purification systems, therefore we knew where the attack was going to happen.
There was no problem with the water, we sent a series of messages for a week, with each of our islands reporting various problems. We knew an attack was coming, and by reading their mail we were able to figure out which island was the target based on how they talked about it.
And why would anybody think that Japan would be any less fanatical in fighting than Germany was? They fought on to the bitter end, their entire nation utterly destroyed and still did not surrender. Does anybody think Japan would have been different?
Displaying a classified memo that we broke is nothing even close to their telling anybody that they were willing to surrender, or willing to negotiate. In fact, in other parts of that same decrypted memo it talks about the Japanese claiming they will "fight to the bitter end" for Shanghai, and refused to even consider allowing the civilians to evacuate or to allow a safety zone for them to go to in order to avoid the fighting.
Does this in any way sound like the actions of a country about to surrender? It is kind of like Dr. Strangelove if this is to be taken seriously.
Dr. Strangelove: Of course, the whole point of a Doomsday Machine is lost, if you *keep* it a *secret*! Why didn't you tell the world, eh?
Even a comedy gets the fallacy of your claim. What is the point of attempting to surrender, if you keep it a secret and do not bother to tell anybody you want to surrender?