The nature of our rights, Constitutionally speaking.

[Hafar1014]

Atheists can say anything they damn well please. In fact, they claim the unborn are not human and we need a trained biologist to determine what a woman is. They are all a bunch of insane loons, so what?

The bottom line is, you either view the human species as mere animals, or you treat them as above the animal real by saying that they were created in the image of God himself, thus assigning them protection from what human beings do to animals. It is either that, or you can sit back and watch the powers that be treat human beings like humans treat animals, which is to herd them around, enslave them in zoos for our entertainment, use them as beasts of burden, or kill and eat them. Only the Judeo-Christian religion makes such a distinction from what I know.

Now left-wing groups like PETA make no such distinction, often treating animals better than human beings. But to be fair, if there is no God, why the hell not? Adolf Hitler, for example, loved animals more than people, especially his German Shepherds. The Nazi's passed cutting-edge legislation to protect animals as well while he led the chronically sick and handicapped Germans to the basements of hospitals to end their lives because they were a burden on the state.

No doubt, they would have also done this to animals had they had similar problems.

This is the type of government we have today, who value animal life more than human life

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It says their creator try and stay on topic or post a pro fetus fanatic thread

 

[Votto]

Why wouldn’t the right to be married be inherent? And I ask this next question in all seriousness.

If two guys happen to wish to get married, what difference does that make to heterosexuals? How is it my concern? And why should the government be permitted to claim it has any legitimate interest in that “marriage?”

First, there needs to be enough bisexual and gay sponsorship to pass marriage for polygamous people.

The Left wing government we have today would never do this for conservative Mormons, for example, who have large families.


Give it time, they will get there.

Then in the near future they will allow Muslims to marry 9-year-old girls, cuz Islam and Mohammad are seen as a legitimate religion, which they are not.

 

[BackAgain]

Some folks are indeed trying hard to undermine one of the main pillars of our republic. It’s pretty much overt, now.

 

[Votto]

It says their creator try and stay on topic or post a pro fetus fanatic thread

That is my point. Their "creator" says nothing. Therefore, they make up the rules as they go.

Again, how does one assign more value to human life than animal life when your creator says nothing on the topic? If you can't come up with a valid reason, you then need to give animals human rights or treat humans like we treat animals.

 

[Hafar1014]

First, there needs to be enough bisexual and gay sponsorship to pass marriage for polygamous people.

The Left wing government we have today would never do this for conservative Mormons, for example, who have large families.


Give it time, they will get there.

Then in the near future they will allow Muslims to marry 9-year-old girls, cuz Islam and Mohammad are seen as a legitimate religion, which they are not.

Polygamy creates a culture of violent males as we see in the Mormons lost boys and violent Islam. It prevents some males from the chance of marriage. Thats why Mormons stopped it. Islam is still in the dark ages.
Same sex marriage hasn't produced any problems that I am aware of

 

[Hafar1014]

That is my point. Their "creator" says nothing. Therefore, they make up the rules as they go.

Again, how does one assign more value to human life than animal life when your creator says nothing on the topic? If you can't come up with a valid reason, you then need to give animals human rights or treat humans like we treat animals.

It states certain rights are inherent and dont come from the state or our peers. We are born with specific rights. Youre very confused

 

[Votto]

Some folks are indeed trying hard to undermine one of the main pillars of our republic. It’s pretty much overt, now.

From a Biblical view, the God of the Bible has a very dim view of human government in general.

Read 1 Samuel 8 and you will see the Hebrew people demand a king. God first warns them about all the abuses that will be inflicted on them if they continue to demand a human king, but once they ignore his warnings, he gives them what they want.

About 3 kings later, the kingdom divides, as the two kingdoms are eventually swallowed up by Assyria and Babylon and never to be seen or heard from again until 1948 when they had just escaped the ovens of Nazi Germany, and now they face the Left wing loons and Islamic ding bats who want to return all 7 million Zionists Jews back into those ovens.

But hey, God tried to warn them, didn't he.

And Christ was no different. After he did the miracle of feeding the multitude with a few fish and a loaf of bread, they wanted to make him an earthly king. He then fled the scene and refused to do so. Christ made it clear that the "god" of this world, which is satan, rules and reigns the human political system, or as I call them, the Epstein class.

 

[Votto]

It states certain rights are inherent and dont come from the state or our peers. We are born with specific rights. Youre very confused

Are animals then born with the same rights? If not, why not?

Who in the hell is making up these rules?

 

[gipper]

I used this screen name before the left veered far left off the planet, to the point they don't even know what the definition of a woman is anymore. I used to vote a mix of Republicans, democrats, independents, third parties, and write ins. In fact, I used to be a diehard democrat in my earlier life. I even more recently voted for Bill Clinton the second time, Al Gore, and even Obama the second time. Since then the left have entered into a different demension, outside of reality. The left are not a right wing party, they are a progressive/socialist party. But, you are right about both parties serving the 1%.

Fox News thinking, yet you claim you’re independent.

There is no evidence of a large leftist movement in this country and the D Party is a right wing party. Obviously.

They just dupe you into thinking they’re leftists by deceptively pushing DEI and trans BS. You’d think a deceitful person like you could see through the deception.

 

[Hafar1014]

Are animals then born with the same rights? If not, why not?

Who in the hell is making up these rules?

Animals cant have rights because they cant be aware they have rights. However, we can create rights on their behalf and we do. We dont allow abuse or cruelty of animals.

 

[Votto]

It is interesting that under Islam, women don't have the same rights as men.

Even though they claim to come from the Biblical tradition, they reject the notion that women have the same rights as men.

 

[Votto]

Animals cant have rights because they cant be aware they have rights. However, we can create rights on their behalf and we do. We dont allow abuse or cruelty of animals.

Why do they have to be aware of their rights to have a right? If a baby is born mentally hadicapped and can't understand that they have rights, can I lop their head off and dispose of them?

No, nor should I be able to.

Also, who says the animal is not aware? Have you talked to one lately?



Pure stupidity.

 

[Hafar1014]

It is interesting that under Islam, women don't have the same rights as men.

Even though they claim to come from the Biblical tradition, they reject the notion that women have the same rights as men.

Islam is misogynist religion and abuses women. Its violent and primitive

 

[Votto]

Islam is misogynist religion and abuses women. Its violent and primitive

Yes, because they reject innate rights for both men and women.

That is a prime example of the danger of rejecting the Founding Fathers principle of God given rights.

That is why there is reforming Islam, as well as the rights of little 9-year-old girls that grown men marry because Mo did.

 

[Hafar1014]

Why do they have to be aware of their rights to have a right? If a baby is born mentally hadicapped and can't understand that they have rights, can I lop their head off and dispose of them?

No, nor should I be able to.

Also, who says the animal is not aware? Have you talked to one lately?



Pure stupidity.

First animals are not the equal to human beings.
If a dog and human were drowning and you can only save one which would you choose?
A fetus with Tay Sachs Syndrome or Anencephaly should be aborted.
Your points dont make much sense. An animal cant be cognitively aware it has rights. Let me know when one hires a lawyer and sues you

 

[BackAgain]

Actually, I started that thread but, hey, I'm willing to share the glory.

Really?

If I misread it, my bad.

 

[Votto]

First animals are not the equal to human beings.
If a dog and human were drowning and you can only save one which would you choose?
A fetus with Tay Sachs Syndrome or Anencephaly should be aborted.
Your points dont make much sense. An animal cant be cognitively aware it has rights. Let me know when one hires a lawyer and sues you

What are you even talking about? Are males equal to women? Are children equal to adults? Is a whale equal to a human?

You can't just arbitrarily say that they are "equal" or not equal without quantifying what you are actually assessing.

For example, whales seem to have self-awareness and talk to each other; we just have no idea what they are saying to each other is all.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

I — uhm — don’t assume the collapse of Western Civilization any time soon.

If the day comes where it does collapse, the nature and view of what our rights are — or ought to be — will be of major interest to all. In the interim, maybe we need to start publicly appreciating what we have; and fight to keep it.

POTUS is talking about radioactive dust in Iran.

 

[Independent thinker]

Fox News thinking, yet you claim you’re independent.

There is no evidence of a large leftist movement in this country and the D Party is a right wing party. Obviously.

They just dupe you into thinking they’re leftists by deceptively pushing DEI and trans BS. You’d think a deceitful person like you could see through the deception.

Don't watch Fox News but I do know that is the left's standard go to answer for everyone who disagrees with them.

 

[BackAgain]

What right to marriage?

If you're single and no one wants to marry you, how do you exercise that "right"?

Having a right doesn’t mean you have any prospects.

Two different things entirely.