The Medicaid Cuts in "The Big Beautiful Bill": An Honest Discussion

[Dr. Phosphorous]

And this guy thinks he has arguments.

Hilarious.

An argument that you don't like is still an argument, mentally ill MAGA simp.

 

[leftwinger]

Nic

But totally eliminating Medicaid does. And that is just it. That is what it seems people don't understand. I mean for real, this is the continuation of the Trump tax cuts, which didn't compensate the average American for his increased spending due to tariffs in Trump's first term. Those cuts benefited the wealth to a much greater extent than most Americans, and continuing them only exacerbates that trend.

But how they going to pay for it? Cut Medicaid. Dammit, half of all Medicaid spending, HALF OF ALL SPENDING, goes to pay for nursing home care. And the flip side of that. Medicaid pays for half of all Long Term Care services. The elderly, the frail, the disabled, with Medicaid footing the bill. In many cases, these elderly people have already exhausted their life savings. Now, they have nothing, get maybe forty dollars a month to spend on incidentals, the rest of their Social Security check, even disability payments, confiscated by the nursing home, Medicaid just pays the difference.

It is these people, THESE PEOPLE, that Trump and his supporters want to shoulder the "cost" of their complete avarice. You send Trump down here to see me, you send Elon down here, you send me these senators and representatives down here, we will go on a little trip. Tag along with Mom for a couple of days. Give them their feel of nursing homes as Mom visits them, almost every day, to see a friend, a cousin, a former classmate.

It is absolutely unconscionable, disturbing actually. And the no tax on tips, oh shit, just like I expected, Sec. 110101. Yep, no tax on tips, a top line deduction, and lops the FICA right off. Even gives credit to the employer. But that server, boy howdy, going to be hard to collect much of a Social Security retirement check on $2.13 an hour. Next section is the overtime part and honestly, I can't look at it right now. Figured that one out too. Project 2025.

nice try. There is no change to income tax brackets.

Keep sayimg tax breaks for WEALTHY. Only for those making real income (a paycheck). A few percent to placate Coastal Elites bombing Blue Senators upset. No more $500K property tax write offs on my dime.

Until you stop the BS no one will take the rest of your pablum seriously. Why lie? Winston Kills as always.

 

[leftwinger]

A lot of old people will find themselves on the street and families having to take out huge loans if the old person is lucky to have a family that is capable.

People will die because of this bill.

Nice try. Like we saw bodies piled along the freeway going to work under your Flu game. Lol! Illegals stacked like cordwood because Trump is evil. Get off the boards you dopes.

Phony cuts phased in means slow pain if any. Probably all smoke and mirrors by dirty congress. They will delay anything as long as possible then kill it when Trump is gone. I wouldn’t worry.

 

[Dr. Phosphorous]

Nice try. Like we saw bodies piled along the freeway going to work under your Flu game. Lol! Illegals stacked like cordwood because Trump is evil. Get off the boards you dopes.

Phony cuts phased in means slow pain if any. Probably all smoke and mirrors by dirty congress. They will delay anything as long as possible then kill it when Trump is gone. I wouldn’t worry.

I know you won't worry....because you aren't very smart.

But normal people that don't worship at the alter of Trump are extremely worried.....and they should be.

 

[leftwinger]

I know you won't worry....because you aren't very smart.

But normal people that don't worship at the alter of Trump are extremely worried.....and they should be.

Cuts to “RATE OF INCREASE” is not really a cut eh? Deep State Obiden 1010 for you Chimmichanga breath.

 

[Concerned American]

Maybe even some of the unemployed MAGA dumb ***** on this board who depend on Medicaid.

Please identify those Dr. PP. LOL

 

[Dr. Phosphorous]

Cuts to “RATE OF INCREASE” is not really a cut eh? Deep State Obiden 1010 for you Chimmichanga breath.

In fact...it IS, MAGA gomer.

 

[Dr. Phosphorous]

Please identify those Dr. PP. LOL

The most mentally disturbed MAGAs on this board are undoubtedly old, retired racists such as yourself and younger people on Medicaid that don't work.

 

[Anathema]

That's counterproductive. Millions of people would then simply go without medical care, without the ability to afford it.

Dead people don’t have a cost.

 

[Anathema]

Yeah, just kick the old people out of the nursing homes and let them die on the street. Or better yet, let's have some kind of maximum age. I don't know, maybe 75. You live that long, well you have to show up for the "Carousal", a renewal ceremony. If you don't show up, the government can send a "sandman" after you.

******* idiot.

No need for maximum age. Those who have prepared for their later life expenses will be fine. Those who haven’t will suffer the righteous consequences.

 

[Concerned American]

The most mentally disturbed MAGAs on this board are undoubtedly old, retired racists such as yourself and younger people on Medicaid that don't work.

Please keep up and stop running around in your own empty head. You said "MAGAs on medicaid." which I asked you to identify. Now you expose yourself as being a jealous kid who has a vendetta against retired folks--not necessarily MAGAs at all. Then you bring race into the conversation that has no race mentioned at all. Seems YOU are the racist and you're projecting. Finally, are you saying that young MAGAs are on medicaid? If so, I haven't seen any. Young MAGAs by and large are ambitious, employed young folks who are wise to your cockamamie hysteria. LMAO, run along, you're a moron.

 

[Concerned American]

In fact...it IS, MAGA gomer.

Maybe you think it's better to have death panels like Obama's ACA and his buddies advocate. Do you agree that the US should eliminate care for those over 75?

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[TemplarKormac]

Dead people don’t have a cost.

No, but the living ones do.

 

[justoffal]

Yes I want able bodied young black males in Memphis to work. I don’t want to pay 300lb white Stain to pound boards and not work. No I dont want to pay new hearts and livers to 50 yr. old Mexican got aways and chain migrate their 70; yr old aunt. Ok no lung transplants for crack smokers or Fentynal users? Down the list we go…..first, Stop the medical fraud.

It’s easy. Just use common sense. Did they?

Maybe cut-paste, highlight big important easy to understand parts? If they exist? A page at a time, or section?

Exactly.....

 

[Anathema]

No, but the living ones do.

Then we should be expediting their trip to the graceful they can’t pay for their services.

 

[Dr. Phosphorous]

Maybe you think it's better to have death panels like Obama's ACA and his buddies advocate. Do you agree that the US should eliminate care for those over 75?

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Oh look....the old MAGA racist making shit up again.

Big surprise.

 

[initforme]

No more cuts need to be made. Let's now work on getting workers out of the workforce earlier. Make emoyers compete bigly. That will spur on wage growth. Can't find workers in a shrinking labor force thats ALL o. The employer. Pay up.

 

[leftwinger]

Oh look....the old MAGA racist making shit up again.

Big surprise.

Then we should be expediting their trip to the graceful they can’t pay for their services.

Sounds cruel but when push comes to shove? remeber 09-13 (they got rich took luxury vacations, "we" were made jobless/homeless).

Then deep state Flu crisis, they never ran out of Charmin in the Capitol but millions were killed off in blue state shutdown GOVT behind closed doors. And we used scrap paper from the work copier.

 

[Blaster]

This is not a popular bill.

 

[Winco]

Remember this......"Medicare, we aren't touching anything."