The left has embraced fascism in its purest form

[bripat9643]

This is also a common misconception. The ones who believe in the free market and limited government are conservatives, not the right wing; there's a difference.

The right wing generally does not believe that everyone should be equal. That sounds worse than it is, because for most of all of our lives, the vast majority of the right wing has been conservatives, who mostly believe in the rewards of hard work, going back to Jamestown's quintessentially American "He who works, eats" ideal, which has a central place in our American identity. Don't tax me, because I earned this money and deserve to keep it; don't tell me what to do, because I follow the law and deserve my own freedom; don't regulate me because I worked hard for this business and deserve to see its success; and so on. Fair enough, it's a core value.

But there is another kind of right-winger, those on the extremes who believe they deserve more social rewards based on their majority status, whether ethnic or religious or some other demographic. This is where you find white supremacy ("White people deserve more"), Christian nationalists ("Christian people deserve more"), and fascists, who think that members of The Party deserve more than others because they are the only "True Americans" (or whatever nation).

They're definitely not conservatives, but they're also not liberals; they are something else, but they definitely come from the far, far right.

Conservatism and right wing are the same thing, shit for brains. The rest of your post is equally idiotic, but I don't have all day to point out your errors.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Rubbish. The closest this country ever came to fascism was the election of trump. He wanted to destroy democracy and install himself forever. That's fascism boy. Get some facts.

Here's just a few problem with your post:

1. Your side conducted a Fascist Reichstag Fire on Jan 6th
2. Your side thinks Free Speech does not apply to your "enemies", i.e. anyone to the right of Mao
3. Your side is all for dividing people by race and wealth
4. We're a Republic, not a democracy

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Libertarianism isn't right wing.

No?

 

[bripat9643]

Here's just a few problem with your post:

1. Your side conducted a Fascist Reichstag Fire on Jan 6th
2. Your side thinks Free Speech does not apply to your "enemies", i.e. anyone to the right of Mao
3. Your side is all for dividing people by race and wealth
4. We're a Republic, not a democracy

Wrong, Your hero FDR was a fascist.

 

[Colin norris]

Here's just a few problem with your post:

1. Your side conducted a Fascist Reichstag Fire on Jan 6th
   In case you've forgotten, they were all republicans trying to stop Biden being appointed yet you think they did it to stop that???
   Where's you evidence of that hate filled ignorant statement dickhead? You're delusional and a liar.
   
2. Your side thinks Free Speech does not apply to your "enemies", i.e. anyone to the right of Mao
   
   When did Biden and the democrats ever restrict it? Remember when trump told his senators if they spoke against him there would be consequences? So who doesn't believe in free speech now idiot.
   
3. Your side is all for dividing people by race and wealth
   The country is divided by party and the race and wealthth are both consequences of that. Trump played to your hatreds and fears and sucked you in. He exposed America's division and you were foolish enough to join in and go public with it. Now you say democrats are responsible because you won't accept the blame yourselves. You fucking hypocrite.
   
4. We're a Republic, not a democracy

I'll call it a democracy until the day I die but since your an expert on the matter, you tell me what is the difference .
Here's a little hint, big mouth. Any country that has open elections to appoint a government is a democracy. It was invented by the Greeks years ago.
Get your facts right dickhead.

It's rare you stick your ignorant nose into a debate and it's equally as rare you come armed with something greater than hate and ignorance.
Stick to your filthy bible and pray to you paedophile God.

 

[Pellinore]

Conservatism and right wing are the same thing, shit for brains. The rest of your post is equally idiotic, but I don't have all day to point out your errors.

Fascists are on the right wing. Does that mean that you think fascists are conservatives?

 

[bripat9643]

Fascists are on the right wing. Does that mean that you think fascists are conservatives?

Fascists are socialist, so they are left-wingers. The way you idiot progs throw around the term, it means virtually anyone you claim to be the bad guys. It's meaningless, in other words.

 

[Vrenn]

Fascists are on the right wing. Does that mean that you think fascists are conservatives?

Pure fascism is not conservative but it is extremely capitalistic. Had the capitalists no sided with Mussolini, Hitler and Franco, The world would have been much better off. Capitalism needs to stay out of Government.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Fascists are on the right wing. Does that mean that you think fascists are conservatives?

Stalin said that Fascists are on the right wing.

There fixed for you

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Here's a useful chart for the Stupids in the thread

Right Wing: Individual Liberty, minimal government
Left Wing: Government Uber Alles, Screw your freedoms

 

[Pellinore]

Fascists are socialist, so they are left-wingers. The way you idiot progs throw around the term, it means virtually anyone you claim to be the bad guys. It's meaningless, in other words.

Pure fascism is not conservative but it is extremely capitalistic. Had the capitalists no sided with Mussolini, Hitler and Franco, The world would have been much better off. Capitalism needs to stay out of Government.

Here's a useful chart for the Stupids in the thread

Right Wing: Individual Liberty, minimal government
Left Wing: Government Uber Alles, Screw your freedoms

I would suggest that you all read up on fascism, from several knowledgeable, reliable authors, before you post about it, because you apparently don't understand it.

Fascism is not socialist, because socialism is all about universal equality, which is the last thing fascists want; they want to be superior, not equal.
Fascism is not capitalistic, because capitalism is all about the free and fair market and success based on merit, which fascists abhor; they want a rigged market in their favor, and success based on party affiliation.
The right wing/left wing split is not about liberty and control; that is the line between democracy and authoritarianism.

I would start with Robert Paxton's "The Anatomy of Fascism" and go from there. It will probably challenge what you think, but that's never a bad thing. Good luck.

 

[daveman]

apparently youve never heard of the proud boys or oath keepers or Trumps unmarked vans?

Ooooh. "Unmarked vans".

What brand of tinfoil do you prefer?

 

[daveman]

Perhaps a more salient point here is the rise in conservative victimhood we've been seeing more of recently.
This one of the features of fascism. The fascist is always the victim, so all violence and oppression is retaliatory. They are never the aggressor, but rather always acting in self defense against the "other" that has wronged them.
If youre unsure about "conservative victimhood", its behind the fervent support for Rittenhouse.

Oh, you mean the guy who defended himself from people actually attacking him?

I support his right to self-defense against attackers. I support your right to do that, too.

 

[daveman]

That is not a lie and was acknowledged by western societies internationally.
You can easily research that but you'll find it distasteful when considering you worshipped him like a god. They did the same to Mussolini and Hitler and Kim fuck wit.

Your party and you supported the over throw of democracy. Now you are ignorant enough to deny it wasn't a dictatorial attempt to install a fascist.
You are brain dead kid. Not a functioning neuron between your ears.
Straight out 24 carat dickhead.

I don't worship any human beings, boy. I really wish you'd stop lying.

 

[daveman]

I would suggest that you all read up on fascism, from several knowledgeable, reliable authors, before you post about it, because you apparently don't understand it.

Fascism is not socialist, because socialism is all about universal equality, which is the last thing fascists want; they want to be superior, not equal.
Fascism is not capitalistic, because capitalism is all about the free and fair market and success based on merit, which fascists abhor; they want a rigged market in their favor, and success based on party affiliation.
The right wing/left wing split is not about liberty and control; that is the line between democracy and authoritarianism.

I would start with Robert Paxton's "The Anatomy of Fascism" and go from there. It will probably challenge what you think, but that's never a bad thing. Good luck.

You realize you're describing the Democratic Party, don't you?

 

[bripat9643]

I would suggest that you all read up on fascism, from several knowledgeable, reliable authors, before you post about it, because you apparently don't understand it.

I would suggest that you're a pretentious asshole who doesn't know 1/10th as much as you believe you know about NAZIs or fascists or economics. The authors you read are obviously all leftwing cranks who don't know their ass from a hole in the ground.

Fascism is not socialist, because socialism is all about universal equality, which is the last thing fascists want; they want to be superior, not equal.

Socialism is government control of the economy. Any other claim are propaganda.

Fascism is not capitalistic, because capitalism is all about the free and fair market and success based on merit, which fascists abhor; they want a rigged market in their favor, and success based on party affiliation.
The right wing/left wing split is not about liberty and control; that is the line between democracy and authoritarianism.

Bullshit. China is capitalist, but it's also authoritarian. Fascism is always compared with capitalism and socialism, which means it's always compared with other economic system. That makes democracy and authoritarianism irrelevant. Leftwing turds always start talking about fascism as an economic system, then then the start giving it all manner or non-economic attributes like nationalism, racism and militarism, all of which are totally irrelevant.

I would start with Robert Paxton's "The Anatomy of Fascism" and go from there. It will probably challenge what you think, but that's never a bad thing. Good luck.

The guy sounds like an idiot.

 

[Toro]

The left has embraced fascism in its purest form. Their entire mindset is: either bow to our ideology, or we will do everything in our power to destroy you. No tolerance for any thoughts or views other than the progressive thoughts and views.

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It's you rubes who've embraced fascism by believing the Big Lie and wanting to overthrow the will of the American people!

 

[bripat9643]

Fascists are on the right wing. Does that mean that you think fascists are conservatives?

They aren't on the right. You can't even define what the terms "right-wing" and "left-wing mean.

 

[Toro]

I would suggest that you're a pretentious asshole who doesn't know 1/10th as much as you believe you know about NAZIs or fascists or economics. The authors you read are obviously all leftwing cranks who don't know their ass from a hole in the ground.

I've forgotten more about free enterprise economics and political economy than you've ever known, Brian.

And you are acting like a statist fascist, you Trumptard rube!

 

[Vrenn]

I would suggest that you all read up on fascism, from several knowledgeable, reliable authors, before you post about it, because you apparently don't understand it.

Fascism is not socialist, because socialism is all about universal equality, which is the last thing fascists want; they want to be superior, not equal.
Fascism is not capitalistic, because capitalism is all about the free and fair market and success based on merit, which fascists abhor; they want a rigged market in their favor, and success based on party affiliation.
The right wing/left wing split is not about liberty and control; that is the line between democracy and authoritarianism.

I would start with Robert Paxton's "The Anatomy of Fascism" and go from there. It will probably challenge what you think, but that's never a bad thing. Good luck.

I'll start another thread on just how successful this was done and still may become a reality.

Fourteen Points of Fascism

1. Powerful and Continuing Nationalism​

Fascist regimes tend to make constant use of patriotic mottos, slogans, symbols, songs, and other paraphernalia. Flags are seen everywhere, as are flag symbols on clothing and in public displays.

2. Disdain for the Recognition of Human Rights​

Because of fear of enemies and the need for security, the people in fascist regimes are persuaded that human rights can be ignored in certain cases because of \u201cneed.\u201d The people tend to look the other way or even approve of torture, summary executions, assassinations, long incarcerations of prisoners, etc.

3. Identification of Enemies/Scapegoats as a Unifying Cause​

The people are rallied into a unifying patriotic frenzy over the need to eliminate a perceived common threat or foe: racial, ethnic or religious minorities; liberals; communists; socialists, terrorists, etc.

4. Supremacy of the Military​

Even when there are widespread domestic problems, the military is given a disproportionate amount of government funding, and the domestic agenda is neglected. Soldiers and military service are glamorized.

5. Rampant Sexism​

The governments of fascist nations tend to be almost exclusively male-dominated. Under fascist regimes, traditional gender roles are made more rigid. Opposition to abortion is high, as is homophobia and anti-gay legislation and national policy.

6. Controlled Mass Media​

Sometimes the media are directly controlled by the government, but in other cases, the media are indirectly controlled by government regulation, or sympathetic media spokespeople and executives. Censorship, especially in war time, is very common.

7. Obsession with National Security​

Fear is used as a motivational tool by the government over the masses.

8. Religion and Government are Intertwined​

Governments in fascist nations tend to use the most common religion in the nation as a tool to manipulate public opinion. Religious rhetoric and terminology is common from government leaders, even when the major tenets of the religion are diametrically opposed to the government's policies or actions.

9. Corporate Power is Protected​

The industrial and business aristocracy of a fascist nation often are the ones who put the government leaders into power, creating a mutually beneficial business/government relationship and power elite.

10. Labor Power is Suppressed​

Because the organizing power of labor is the only real threat to a fascist government, labor unions are either eliminated entirely, or are severely suppressed.

11. Disdain for Intellectuals and the Arts​

Fascist nations tend to promote and tolerate open hostility to higher education, and academia. It is not uncommon for professors and other academics to be censored or even arrested. Free _expression in the arts is openly attacked, and governments often refuse to fund the arts.

12. Obsession with Crime and Punishment​

Under fascist regimes, the police are given almost limitless power to enforce laws. The people are often willing to overlook police abuses and even forego civil liberties in the name of patriotism. There is often a national police force with virtually unlimited power in fascist nations

13. Rampant Cronyism and Corruption​

Fascist regimes almost always are governed by groups of friends and associates who appoint each other to government positions and use governmental power and authority to protect their friends from accountability. It is not uncommon in fascist regimes for national resources and even treasures to be appropriated or even outright stolen by government leaders.

14. Fraudulent Elections​

Sometimes elections in fascist nations are a complete sham. Other times elections are manipulated by smear campaigns against or even assassination of opposition candidates, use of legislation to control voting numbers or political district boundaries, and manipulation of the media. Fascist nations also typically use their judiciaries to manipulate or control elections.