The left has embraced fascism in its purest form

[P@triot]

Fascism was embraced by hard right conservatives. Its racist, nationalistic and authoritarian.

Well two of those three are exclusively left-wing so…

 

[P@triot]

I’ll make a deal with dudmuck and Mac1958 right here and now:

We all know that the Tea Party is to the right of the Republican Party and that Libertarian Party is to the right of the Tea Party. Indisputable fact.

The reason? As you move further right on the political spectrum, government gets smaller and weaker until it ceases to exist at all (anarchy).

If either of these two clowns can explain with even so much as an ounce of logic and reason reason how fascism is to the right of libertarianism, I’ll adamantly declare all over USMB that fascism right-wing until the day I die.

But if they can’t, they have to delete their USMB account. Aaand GO!

Folks, it took Mac1958 literally 2 minutes to turn and run!

Let’s see what Dudmuck does…

 

[P@triot]

Fascism was embraced by hard right conservatives. Its racist, nationalistic and authoritarian.

Fascism does embrace racism. Which is what makes it exclusively left-wing:

The Inconvenient Truth About the Democratic Party | PragerU

Did you know that the Democratic Party defended slavery, started the Civil War, founded the KKK, and fought against every major civil rights act in U.S.…

www.prageru.com

 

[Vrenn]

The left. They continue to engage in voter fraud because they don’t trust the American people to govern themselves.

The right has never “suppressed voters”. Never.

 

[Vrenn]

Fascism does embrace racism. Which is what makes it exclusively left-wing:

The Inconvenient Truth About the Democratic Party | PragerU

Did you know that the Democratic Party defended slavery, started the Civil War, founded the KKK, and fought against every major civil rights act in U.S.…

www.prageru.com

Fascism is to the right of conservatives. Mussolini, Hitler and Rump all are fascists that tried to masquerade as something else. In 1926, Mussolini came up with 14 points of Fascism that works. He also claimed to be a socialist but in fact, that was a lie. Fascism is dangerous because it's one step away from Dictatorship like communism is on the other side. In fact, if you study history and the Spanish Civil War you will see the Fascists and Communist Nations fight a proxy war. And the Fascists won out. Franco came to power but he didn't take it that one step further that Mussolini and Hitler did where Spain stayed a maligned democracy and the other two turned it into a military dictatorship. Rump did 12 of these 14 points. But he was stopped by the Constitution and the UCMJ. That's one thing that Spain, Italy, Germany, Russia didn't have. Jan 6 was one of the 14 points to seize control and create a King.

Fourteen Points of Fascism​

1. Powerful and Continuing Nationalism​ Fascist regimes tend to make constant use of patriotic mottos, slogans, symbols, songs, and other paraphernalia. Flags are seen everywhere, as are flag symbols on clothing and in public displays. 2. Disdain for the Recognition of Human Rights​ Because of fear of enemies and the need for security, the people in fascist regimes are persuaded that human rights can be ignored in certain cases because of \u201cneed.\u201d The people tend to look the other way or even approve of torture, summary executions, assassinations, long incarcerations of prisoners, etc. 3. Identification of Enemies/Scapegoats as a Unifying Cause​ The people are rallied into a unifying patriotic frenzy over the need to eliminate a perceived common threat or foe: racial, ethnic or religious minorities; liberals; communists; socialists, terrorists, etc. 4. Supremacy of the Military​ Even when there are widespread domestic problems, the military is given a disproportionate amount of government funding, and the domestic agenda is neglected. Soldiers and military service are glamorized. 5. Rampant Sexism​ The governments of fascist nations tend to be almost exclusively male-dominated. Under fascist regimes, traditional gender roles are made more rigid. Opposition to abortion is high, as is homophobia and anti-gay legislation and national policy. 6. Controlled Mass Media​ Sometimes the media are directly controlled by the government, but in other cases, the media are indirectly controlled by government regulation, or sympathetic media spokespeople and executives. Censorship, especially in war time, is very common. 7. Obsession with National Security​ Fear is used as a motivational tool by the government over the masses. 8. Religion and Government are Intertwined​ Governments in fascist nations tend to use the most common religion in the nation as a tool to manipulate public opinion. Religious rhetoric and terminology is common from government leaders, even when the major tenets of the religion are diametrically opposed to the government's policies or actions. 9. Corporate Power is Protected​ The industrial and business aristocracy of a fascist nation often are the ones who put the government leaders into power, creating a mutually beneficial business/government relationship and power elite. 10. Labor Power is Suppressed​ Because the organizing power of labor is the only real threat to a fascist government, labor unions are either eliminated entirely, or are severely suppressed. 11. Disdain for Intellectuals and the Arts​ Fascist nations tend to promote and tolerate open hostility to higher education, and academia. It is not uncommon for professors and other academics to be censored or even arrested. Free _expression in the arts is openly attacked, and governments often refuse to fund the arts. 12. Obsession with Crime and Punishment​ Under fascist regimes, the police are given almost limitless power to enforce laws. The people are often willing to overlook police abuses and even forego civil liberties in the name of patriotism. There is often a national police force with virtually unlimited power in fascist nations 13. Rampant Cronyism and Corruption​ Fascist regimes almost always are governed by groups of friends and associates who appoint each other to government positions and use governmental power and authority to protect their friends from accountability. It is not uncommon in fascist regimes for national resources and even treasures to be appropriated or even outright stolen by government leaders. 14. Fraudulent Elections​ Sometimes elections in fascist nations are a complete sham. Other times elections are manipulated by smear campaigns against or even assassination of opposition candidates, use of legislation to control voting numbers or political district boundaries, and manipulation of the media. Fascist nations also typically use their judiciaries to manipulate or control elections. `Fascism Anyone?,' by Dr. Lawrence Britt, a political scientist, identifies social and political agendas common to fascist regimes. His comparisons of Hitler, Mussolini, Franco, Suharto, and Pinochet yielded this list of 14 `identifying characteristics' of fascism. (The following article is from Free Inquiry magazine, Volume 23, Number 2. Read it at http://www.secularhumanism.org/library/fi/britt_23_2.htm)

 

[dudmuck]

Since your a bit slow and quite confused, here is a very simple visually to help you understand:

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how can the Nazis be on the same side as communism when the Nazis opposed communis?

 

[P@triot]

how can the Nazis be on the same side as communism when the Nazis opposed communis?

They didn’t “oppose” communists. Nazi was short for National SOCIALIST. Communism and socialism both believe in state production.

The real question is: how the fuck could fascism be to the right of libertarianism?!? Please explain that to the class. We’re all ears. You have the floor.

 

[otto105]

The left has embraced fascism in its purest form. Their entire mindset is: either bow to our ideology, or we will do everything in our power to destroy you. No tolerance for any thoughts or views other than the progressive thoughts and views.

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That’s not the definition of fascism jackass.

 

[dudmuck]

They didn’t “oppose” communists. Nazi was short for National SOCIALIST. Communism and socialism both believe in state production.

The real question is: how the fuck could fascism be to the right of libertarianism?!? Please explain that to the class. We’re all ears. You have the floor.

Nazi also opposed socialism just like they opposed communism. Hilter's view was that inequality and hierarchy was beneficial to Germany. When his party first came to power in the early 30s, the 'others' were the first to go to dachau, and part of the others were the socialists. Hitler supported capitalism, but he considered foreign implementations of capitalism to be created by the jews, and also communism created by the jews. Look at how Hitler expelled Otto Strasser from the party, Otto argued for socialism in germany; Hitler's debate with Otto shows Hitler's view on socialism.

on the other subject of libertarianism;
American libertarians such as Kevin Carson,[23] Karl Hess,[79] and Roderick T. Long[80] have written about libertarianism's left wing opposition to authoritarian rule and argued that libertarianism is fundamentally a left-wing position. Rothbard himself previously made the same point.[81]

and to reiterate the basic tenet of right-wing politics is that social order and social hierarchy is desirable and natural. Along with that, inequality is considered natural for the right. There are 5 types of the right wing, but the one called 'reactionary right' supports authoritarianism, but this could also apply to radical right or extreme right. The other types of right wing is liberal conservatives, which is also known as 'new right', and the last is moderate right.

 

[surada]

Fascism does embrace racism. Which is what makes it exclusively left-wing:

The Inconvenient Truth About the Democratic Party | PragerU

Did you know that the Democratic Party defended slavery, started the Civil War, founded the KKK, and fought against every major civil rights act in U.S.…

www.prageru.com

All the foreign soldier who served in the Waffen SS were hard right.

List of Waffen-SS foreign volunteers and conscripts

The Waffen-SS ("Armed SS") was created as the armed wing of the Nazi Party's Schutzstaffel ("Protective Squadron"; SS).[1] It grew from three regiments to over 38 divisions during World War II, and served alongside the Heer (regular army) but was never formally part of it.[2] By 1945, the...

military-history.fandom.com

 

[daveman]

since the right is both racist and nationalist. Fascism has to come from the right because fascist are also both racist and nationalist. Take for example Hitler, both anti-jew and anti-marxist. Another example is in Umberto's 14 common features of fascism, especially feature #5, "fear of difference". And finally, fascism is anti-democratic; who is currently suppressing voters?

Hitler drank water.

YOU drink water.

Therefore, you're a Nazi.

 

[daveman]

Fascism is to the right of conservatives. Mussolini, Hitler and Rump all are fascists that tried to masquerade as something else. In 1926, Mussolini came up with 14 points of Fascism that works. He also claimed to be a socialist but in fact, that was a lie. Fascism is dangerous because it's one step away from Dictatorship like communism is on the other side. In fact, if you study history and the Spanish Civil War you will see the Fascists and Communist Nations fight a proxy war. And the Fascists won out. Franco came to power but he didn't take it that one step further that Mussolini and Hitler did where Spain stayed a maligned democracy and the other two turned it into a military dictatorship. Rump did 12 of these 14 points. But he was stopped by the Constitution and the UCMJ. That's one thing that Spain, Italy, Germany, Russia didn't have. Jan 6 was one of the 14 points to seize control and create a King.

Fourteen Points of Fascism​

1. Powerful and Continuing Nationalism​ Fascist regimes tend to make constant use of patriotic mottos, slogans, symbols, songs, and other paraphernalia. Flags are seen everywhere, as are flag symbols on clothing and in public displays. 2. Disdain for the Recognition of Human Rights​ Because of fear of enemies and the need for security, the people in fascist regimes are persuaded that human rights can be ignored in certain cases because of \u201cneed.\u201d The people tend to look the other way or even approve of torture, summary executions, assassinations, long incarcerations of prisoners, etc. 3. Identification of Enemies/Scapegoats as a Unifying Cause​ The people are rallied into a unifying patriotic frenzy over the need to eliminate a perceived common threat or foe: racial, ethnic or religious minorities; liberals; communists; socialists, terrorists, etc. 4. Supremacy of the Military​ Even when there are widespread domestic problems, the military is given a disproportionate amount of government funding, and the domestic agenda is neglected. Soldiers and military service are glamorized. 5. Rampant Sexism​ The governments of fascist nations tend to be almost exclusively male-dominated. Under fascist regimes, traditional gender roles are made more rigid. Opposition to abortion is high, as is homophobia and anti-gay legislation and national policy. 6. Controlled Mass Media​ Sometimes the media are directly controlled by the government, but in other cases, the media are indirectly controlled by government regulation, or sympathetic media spokespeople and executives. Censorship, especially in war time, is very common. 7. Obsession with National Security​ Fear is used as a motivational tool by the government over the masses. 8. Religion and Government are Intertwined​ Governments in fascist nations tend to use the most common religion in the nation as a tool to manipulate public opinion. Religious rhetoric and terminology is common from government leaders, even when the major tenets of the religion are diametrically opposed to the government's policies or actions. 9. Corporate Power is Protected​ The industrial and business aristocracy of a fascist nation often are the ones who put the government leaders into power, creating a mutually beneficial business/government relationship and power elite. 10. Labor Power is Suppressed​ Because the organizing power of labor is the only real threat to a fascist government, labor unions are either eliminated entirely, or are severely suppressed. 11. Disdain for Intellectuals and the Arts​ Fascist nations tend to promote and tolerate open hostility to higher education, and academia. It is not uncommon for professors and other academics to be censored or even arrested. Free _expression in the arts is openly attacked, and governments often refuse to fund the arts. 12. Obsession with Crime and Punishment​ Under fascist regimes, the police are given almost limitless power to enforce laws. The people are often willing to overlook police abuses and even forego civil liberties in the name of patriotism. There is often a national police force with virtually unlimited power in fascist nations 13. Rampant Cronyism and Corruption​ Fascist regimes almost always are governed by groups of friends and associates who appoint each other to government positions and use governmental power and authority to protect their friends from accountability. It is not uncommon in fascist regimes for national resources and even treasures to be appropriated or even outright stolen by government leaders. 14. Fraudulent Elections​ Sometimes elections in fascist nations are a complete sham. Other times elections are manipulated by smear campaigns against or even assassination of opposition candidates, use of legislation to control voting numbers or political district boundaries, and manipulation of the media. Fascist nations also typically use their judiciaries to manipulate or control elections. `Fascism Anyone?,' by Dr. Lawrence Britt, a political scientist, identifies social and political agendas common to fascist regimes. His comparisons of Hitler, Mussolini, Franco, Suharto, and Pinochet yielded this list of 14 `identifying characteristics' of fascism. (The following article is from Free Inquiry magazine, Volume 23, Number 2. Read it at http://www.secularhumanism.org/library/fi/britt_23_2.htm)

Repeating bullshit doesn't make it smell any sweeter.

 

[dudmuck]

Hitler drank water.

YOU drink water.

Therefore, you're a Nazi.

since the human body is up to 60% water, it would seem everybody is a Nazi

 

[Dragonlady]

300 years ago the godless heathen left would have been wiped out.

Why is it that so many on the right want to eliminate the left?

 

[Dragonlady]

As I've explained to you several times already, you cannot have small, limited government fascism. That claim is so bizarre, so outrageous, and so hilarious, that nobody could believe it. Not even you.

Fascism is a form of totalitarianism. All of that shit is exclusively left-wing. Here is a simply (and accurate) chart to help you understand:

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I don't know who made up your political spectrum but like everything else you post it's total bullshit. The actual political spectrum has authoritarian dictatorships at both ends of the spectrum

 

[edthecynic]

The left has embraced fascism in its purest form.

Conservatism IS Fascism in its purest form, and the Left are NOT Conservatives.

 

[Mac-7]

You pick: Economics, Race, Abortion, Immigration, Health Care, you name it. Let's see which one of us has a grip on the nuance and complexity of the issues.

Same offer the other Trumpster ran from.

Ready when you are.

Immigration

you voted for the worst president on immigration who ever had the job

 

[Nuthin' Fancy]

Isn't if fascinating how everyone who "protests" (ie riot) for left-wing causes has a long criminal history? It's almost like the left-wing ideology attracts dirt-bags. It's also almost like Kyle Rittenhouse was completely justified in acting in self-defense.

Mysterious 'Jump Kick Man' who took aim at Kyle Rittenhouse's head last year identified as Maurice Freeland — a 39-year-old with a lengthy criminal history | Blaze Media

The previously unknown individual who jump-kicked at the head of then-17-year-old Kyle Rittenhouse on the night of the Kenosha shootings last year has been identified as Maurice Freeland — a 39-year-old with an extensive criminal history, Fox News reported. Rittenhouse's defense attorneys...

www.theblaze.com

Yes, it would be...................if it were true.

 

[Nuthin' Fancy]

Conservatism IS Fascism in its purest form, and the Left are NOT Conservatives.

Self-proclaimed 'conservatives' aren't conservative.
That claim only comes out at election time or when a democrat is in office.

 

[Lisa558]

Hitler drank water.

YOU drink water.

Therefore, you're a Nazi.

My cat must be a Nazi, too. Also my plants.