The left has embraced fascism in its purest form

[daveman]

Research how the nazis separated the Jews and the excuse they used to take them to camps.

Interesting how few know how. I mean we all know it happened but few actually know how.

That in itself is Interesting how that has been kept from our classrooms. Ask the average person if they know and most do not. Huh....

Anyway, it was an epidemic that they claimed was spreading. Specifically typhus. They then used it to separate them out. Through mass propaganda, they convinced the German people etc that they needed to keep them safe and Orthodox Jews were refusing any inoculation (vaccine.)


All of that sound familiar? No? Of course it does, but what the world governments are doing is TOOOTALLY DIFFERENT.

EXCEPT THAT IT IS EXACT SAME METHOD.

Huh

It's depressing how many Americans have revealed themselves as being all too willing to load their fellow Americans on boxcars.

 

[Theowl32]

It's depressing how many Americans have revealed themselves as being all too willing to load their fellow Americans on boxcars.

It will include family members.



This guy has to live with his brainwashing by mao selling them on the GREATNESS of socialism.

Had his mother killed. Has to live with it.

 

[Pellinore]

He did no such thing. The fact remains, you cannot have small, limited government totalitarian fascism. Trying to claim as much is absurd. No amount of left-wing propaganda will ever change the obvious.

I did not claim such a thing, because I agree with it: You cannot have small, limited government totalitarian fascism. That is a conservative belief, not a fascist one.

Conservatives support a lot of things that fascists don't: Limited government is one, and so is a free market, a strong democracy with free and fair elections, preservation of traditional institutions, hard work, and law and order. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm guessing you support all of things, which is good.

Fascists also support a lot of things that conservatives oppose, including government control of the market, the church, the media, and other institutions, scapegoating outsiders, rejection of science, brutality toward those who disagree, and outright autocracy.

They do have something in common, though: a belief in a social hierarchy. Some people deserve more in the society, they both say, and some deserve less. Conservatives base the hierarchy on who works hard and follows the law while fascists base it on who is in the party, but it's still all about the social structure. Because of this, they both oppose the lefties, who push for equality for everyone regardless of whether they deserve it, and who push globalism rather than nationalism.

This is why fascism appeals to a society's conservatives. The left, who can all too often be idealistic, short-sighted dumbshits about it, try to change too much too quickly, the conservatives feel left behind, and the fascists move in to convince them of their "new" ideas.

 

[P@triot]

They do have something in common, though: a belief in a social hierarchy. Some people deserve more in the society, they both say, and some deserve less. Conservatives base the hierarchy on who works hard and follows the law while fascists base it on who is in the party, but it's still all about the social structure. Because of this, they both oppose the lefties, who push for equality for everyone regardless of whether they deserve it, and who push globalism rather than nationalism.

All dictators do that. Fidel Castro made sure his pals and supporters are wealthy while the rest of his nation wallows in poverty. Joseph Stalin made sure his pals and supporters are wealthy while the rest of his nation wallows in poverty. Are both of them not left-wing?

Hell, Saddam Hussein did the same as well!

 

[P@triot]

This is why fascism appeals to a society's conservatives. The left, who can all too often be idealistic, short-sighted dumbshits about it, try to change too much too quickly, the conservatives feel left behind, and the fascists move in to convince them of their "new" ideas.

Fascism appeals to totalitarians. And you've already admitted that the right rejects totalitarianism.

 

[Vrenn]

Fascism appeals to totalitarians. And you've already admitted that the right rejects totalitarianism.

No, the right Fascists end up with totalitarian The left wing can lead to Authoritism. Hitler V Stalin. The total outcome of both of these leads to the same thing, Dictatorship. The scale for governments is NOT a linear like many of you believe, it's a complete circle.

 

[g5000]

The left has embraced fascism in its purest form. Their entire mindset is: either bow to our ideology, or we will do everything in our power to destroy you. No tolerance for any thoughts or views other than the progressive thoughts and views.

Any Republican who does not drop to their knees and suck Trump's cock is a RINO.

SIEG HEIL!

 

[daveman]

Any Republican who does not drop to their knees and suck Trump's cock is a RINO.

SIEG HEIL!

I see your New Year's Resolution was to be even stupider than last year.

You're doing a hell of a job!

 

[P@triot]

Hitler V Stalin. The total outcome of both of these leads to the same thing, Dictatorship.

Excellent Third Grade logic there. Since Hitler fought Stalin, they “must” have different ideologies.

Couldn’t possibly be because dictators want to control the world - whether or not leaders of other nations share their same political views.

The scale for governments is NOT a linear like many of you believe, it's a complete circle.

Yeah, I’ve heard that nonsense before. It literally cannot be “circular” when you are dealing in polar opposites. It must be linear.

 

[P@triot]

Any Republican who does not drop to their knees and suck Trump's cock is a RINO.

SIEG HEIL!

Never voted for Trump, G-string. Note the first time. Not the second time.

Would you like to try again? You fail every time you post.

 

[P@triot]

I see your New Year's Resolution was to be even stupider than last year.

You're doing a hell of a job!

Already a candidate for 2022 USMB post of the year!

 

[Vrenn]

Excellent Third Grade logic there. Since Hitler fought Stalin, they “must” have different ideologies.

Couldn’t possibly be because dictators want to control the world - whether or not leaders of other nations share their same political views.

Yeah, I’ve heard that nonsense before. It literally cannot be “circular” when you are dealing in polar opposites. It must be linear.

Funny how you keep saying the same trash over and over even when logic dictates you are wrong but that is all I expect from both a communist and a Fascist since they are not far from each other in that circle. The only real problem both sees is that the other might take over instead of them. Meanwhile, the rest of us keep both of these at arms length.

 

[P@triot]

but that is all I expect from both a communist and a Fascist since they are not far from each other in that circle. The only real problem both sees is that the other might take over instead of them. Meanwhile, the rest of us keep both of these at arms length.

Uh…that’s literally what I’ve been saying this entire thread. Fascists and communists are the exact same ideology.

 

[P@triot]

The left’s entire alphabet of nonsense (LGBT, CRT, SJW, etc.) is merely fascism masked as “progress”.

Another term I defined was “evidence-based.” The most disheartening aspect of this whole experience was that individuals who had received advanced degrees in clinical fields had become completely detached from science rooted in observation and verifiable claims.

Incidentally, that is yet additional evidence (in a mountain of evidence) that the left continues to deny basic science, facts, logic, reason, etc.

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[FA_Q2]

I’ll make a deal with dudmuck and Mac1958 right here and now:

We all know that the Tea Party is to the right of the Republican Party and that Libertarian Party is to the right of the Tea Party. Indisputable fact.

The reason? As you move further right on the political spectrum, government gets smaller and weaker until it ceases to exist at all (anarchy).

If either of these two clowns can explain with even so much as an ounce of logic and reason reason how fascism is to the right of libertarianism, I’ll adamantly declare all over USMB that fascism right-wing until the day I die.

But if they can’t, they have to delete their USMB account. Aaand GO!

Your premise is false. The political spectrum does not span from anarchy to conservatism to liberal to totalitarianism. Conservative and liberal are opposites but libertarian or anarchism and authoritarianism are not on that spectrum. It is why a grid is FAR more accurate for political ideology, political ideology encompasses BOTH economics and social issues which are not necessarily unified.

It is quite possible to be FAR left and believe that all economic activity is the property of the 'people' AND still be an anarchist believing that no central government should exist. It is also entirely possible to be a fascist on the right, believing that we should retain a free and open capitalist economy while being ruled by an authoritarian government. A 'libertarian' is someone that thinks the government should be as small as possible. There are libertarians on the left and right both with varying ideas about how much the economy should be left to the individual or turned over to the collective.

Fascism is simply the name given to the an authoritarian capitalist or comparatist society. It is by DEFINITION on the right. It is clear that authoritarians can come from the right or the left.

To argue that this is not the case would mean that you are stating economic and social values MUST BY DEFINITION go along the same lines - if you believe that government would be smaller you MUST believe that society must also be capitalist. That is clearly untrue as there are some here who do not fit that definition. Whilst conservatism tends to lean libertarian on core ideology here, that does not mean that that is the only manner that conservatism can be expressed. And what we are seeing at this time is the slide towards authoritarianism happening in BOTH parties. To not recognize that possibility on your own side is to invite it to happen with open arms.

Much like the saying, those that do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it.

 

[FA_Q2]

Uh…that’s literally what I’ve been saying this entire thread. Fascists and communists are the exact same ideology.

Well, yes. They are the same social ideology, control by a central power. They are opposites in economic ideology, one thinking that the economy should be communal and the other that it should be individual.

 

[Vrenn]

Uh…that’s literally what I’ve been saying this entire thread. Fascists and communists are the exact same ideology.

Do you have a reading or comprehensive problem? Both leads to dictatorship, one from the left and the other from the right.

 

[P@triot]

Do you have a reading or comprehensive problem? Both leads to dictatorship, one from the left and the other from the right.

You cannot have small, limited government “dictatorships”

It is literally impossible to have “right-wing dictatorship” dumb-ass.

 

[Vrenn]

You cannot have small, limited government “dictatorships”

It is literally impossible to have “right-wing dictatorship” dumb-ass.

One of the things that an ultraRW leads to is Fascism. And that is one step away from a Dictator. Communism is ultraLW and can easily end up as a Dictator. Mussolini and Hitler started out as Fascists but made the last step to Dictators. Meanwhile, Stalin started out as a Communist and quickly made that cross into Dictatorship. Franco also ran a Fascist country although he wasn't really a fascist himself. The Spanish Fascism lasted until Francos death. I remember visiting Spain during Francos time. Not something I would wish to live under. By the same token, I doubt if I would care to live in Putins Russia either.

As for is a Dictatorship RW or LW, it's neither.

 

[FA_Q2]

You cannot have small, limited government “dictatorships”

True

It is literally impossible to have “right-wing dictatorship” dumb-ass.

False.

See my last post.