The John Kennedy assassination ..who's who on the Grassy Knoll

[LA RAM FAN]

two farts in a row from the trolls.

one paid,and one NON paid.

 

[PredFan]

Here's an email exchange between Tyler Newcomb and myself in regards to an audio interview of Jean Hill acquired by them around 1971. Tyler is working to get some of this vintage audio online. I will keep you abreast of Tyler's progress unless he starts posting himself. Below is an excerpt from Tyler's foreword in Murder from Within which was republished in 2011. Jean Hill confirms more directly in this interview that there was a shot in the front of Jfk's limo and that is just icing on top of icing at this point. HILL SAW GREER'S SHOT.

Dennis Roy: But you do remember at least one shot from the front of the car?
Jean Hill: Yes.

The exact quote on the tape was "Yes" when asked…"But you do remember at least one shot from the front of the car"

On Aug 4, 2013, at 1:17 PM, "." <.com> wrote:

Creepy for sure, including Roy! What about that transcript of Jean Hill? Even just some of it. Are these from your interviews? Are they accurate?

Zapruder Film Shows JFK's Driver Firing Fatal Head Shot (August 7, 2007)

1. Mary Moorman - school teacher standing next to Jean Hill. She said she saw Greer shooting back but thought he was shooting back at the assassin. SOURCE: Warren Commission and taped interview by Fred Newcomb.

2. Jean Hill - Jean Hill saw what happened too, but when she tried to bring up the subject of a gun being fired in the car, Senator Arlen Spector (a 33rd degree Mason) would change the subject or say "it's time for a cup of coffee

Murder from Within: Lyndon Johnson's Plot Against President Kennedy: Fred T. Newcomb: 9781463422424: Amazon.com: Books
During this time Dad (FRED NEWCOMB) and his two associates Gil Toff and Roy Dennis telephonically interviewed nearly 50 witnesses comprising 30 hours of tape. Many of these interviews became the basis for the book. One cannot listen to some of the Dallas Police officers interviewed (who smelled “gunpowder right there in the street” and heard shots “right next to me”) and not come away convinced there really was gunfire from within the motorcade. One cannot listen to 2 police officers stationed at Parkland Hospital who were standing next to the Limo and who each saw a bullet hole in the windshield and not become convinced of evidence tampering by the Secret Service.


Jean Hill saw Greer shoot Kennedy

She was just speculating that Greer was shooting back at whomever was shooting at the President. This was an easy way of saying it without exactly saying it. But in those moments she may have thought it because it would be shocking to see your President killed intentionally by the men who took an oath to protect him from assassination attempts. Mrs. Hill clearly turned to the left as the limo passed by in response to the shots and Greer suddenly braking during his second turn to execute the coup de grâce.

Testimony Of Mrs. Jean Lollis Hill

Mr. SPECTER - What occurred at the time of the fourth shot which you believe you heard?
Mrs. HILL - Well, at that time, of course, there was a pause and I took the other shots---about that time Mary grabbed me and was yelling and I had looked away from what was going on here and I thought, because I guess from the TV and movies, that it was Secret Service agents shooting back. To me, if somebody shoots at somebody they always shoot back and so I just thought that that's what it was and I thought, well, they are getting him and shooting back, you know; I didn't know.

Mr. SPECTER - Where was the President's car at the time you thought you heard the fourth shot?
Mrs. HILL - The motorcade came to almost a halt at the time the shots rang out, and I would say it was just approximately, if not---it couldn't have been in the same position, I'm sure it wasn't, but just a very, very short distance from where it had been. It was just almost stunned.
Mr. SPECTER - And how about the time of the fifth shot, where do you think the President's car was?
Mrs. HILL - That was during those shots, I think it wasn't any further than a few feet---further down.
Mr. SPECTER - Which shots, now---you mean the fourth, and perhaps the fifth and perhaps the sixth shot?
Mrs. HILL - Yes.

Mr. SPECTER - You thought that perhaps the second burst of shots you heard were being directed toward him by the Secret Service?

Mrs. HILL - I Just thought, "Oh, goodness, the Secret Service is shooting back."

Mr. SPECTER - What was your impression as to the source of the second group of shots which you have described as the fourth, perhaps the fifth, and perhaps the sixth shot?
Mrs. HILL - Well, nothing, except that I thought that they were fired by someone else.
Mr. SPECTER - And did you have any idea where they were coming from?
Mrs. HILL - No; as I said, I thought they were coming from the general direction of that knoll.
Mr. SPECTER - Well, did you think that the Secret Service was firing them from that knoll?
Mrs. HILL - I said I didn't know-I really don't.
Mr. SPECTER - You just had the general impression that shots were coming from the knoll?
Mrs. HILL - Yes.

Mr. SPECTER - And you had the general impression that the Secret Service was firing the second group of shots at the man who fired the first group of shots?
Mrs. HILL - That's right.

Mr. SPECTER - But you had no specific impression as to the source of those shots?
Mrs. HILL - No.

Jean Hill was looking at the limo when Greer shot Jfk. FRAME 310.

Look at the black guy on the grassy knoll. He's like: "I'm getting the **** out of here before someone blames me for this!"

 

[7forever]

Here's an email exchange between Tyler Newcomb and myself in regards to an audio interview of Jean Hill acquired by them around 1971. Tyler is working to get some of this vintage audio online. I will keep you abreast of Tyler's progress unless he starts posting himself. Below is an excerpt from Tyler's foreword in Murder from Within which was republished in 2011. Jean Hill confirms more directly in this interview that there was a shot in the front of Jfk's limo and that is just icing on top of icing at this point. HILL SAW GREER'S SHOT.

Dennis Roy: But you do remember at least one shot from the front of the car?
Jean Hill: Yes.

The exact quote on the tape was "Yes" when asked…"But you do remember at least one shot from the front of the car"

On Aug 4, 2013, at 1:17 PM, "." <.com> wrote:

Creepy for sure, including Roy! What about that transcript of Jean Hill? Even just some of it. Are these from your interviews? Are they accurate?

Zapruder Film Shows JFK's Driver Firing Fatal Head Shot (August 7, 2007)

1. Mary Moorman - school teacher standing next to Jean Hill. She said she saw Greer shooting back but thought he was shooting back at the assassin. SOURCE: Warren Commission and taped interview by Fred Newcomb.

2. Jean Hill - Jean Hill saw what happened too, but when she tried to bring up the subject of a gun being fired in the car, Senator Arlen Spector (a 33rd degree Mason) would change the subject or say "it's time for a cup of coffee

Murder from Within: Lyndon Johnson's Plot Against President Kennedy: Fred T. Newcomb: 9781463422424: Amazon.com: Books
During this time Dad (FRED NEWCOMB) and his two associates Gil Toff and Roy Dennis telephonically interviewed nearly 50 witnesses comprising 30 hours of tape. Many of these interviews became the basis for the book. One cannot listen to some of the Dallas Police officers interviewed (who smelled “gunpowder right there in the street” and heard shots “right next to me”) and not come away convinced there really was gunfire from within the motorcade. One cannot listen to 2 police officers stationed at Parkland Hospital who were standing next to the Limo and who each saw a bullet hole in the windshield and not become convinced of evidence tampering by the Secret Service.


Jean Hill saw Greer shoot Kennedy

She was just speculating that Greer was shooting back at whomever was shooting at the President. This was an easy way of saying it without exactly saying it. But in those moments she may have thought it because it would be shocking to see your President killed intentionally by the men who took an oath to protect him from assassination attempts. Mrs. Hill clearly turned to the left as the limo passed by in response to the shots and Greer suddenly braking during his second turn to execute the coup de grâce.

Testimony Of Mrs. Jean Lollis Hill

Mr. SPECTER - What occurred at the time of the fourth shot which you believe you heard?
Mrs. HILL - Well, at that time, of course, there was a pause and I took the other shots---about that time Mary grabbed me and was yelling and I had looked away from what was going on here and I thought, because I guess from the TV and movies, that it was Secret Service agents shooting back. To me, if somebody shoots at somebody they always shoot back and so I just thought that that's what it was and I thought, well, they are getting him and shooting back, you know; I didn't know.

Mr. SPECTER - Where was the President's car at the time you thought you heard the fourth shot?
Mrs. HILL - The motorcade came to almost a halt at the time the shots rang out, and I would say it was just approximately, if not---it couldn't have been in the same position, I'm sure it wasn't, but just a very, very short distance from where it had been. It was just almost stunned.
Mr. SPECTER - And how about the time of the fifth shot, where do you think the President's car was?
Mrs. HILL - That was during those shots, I think it wasn't any further than a few feet---further down.
Mr. SPECTER - Which shots, now---you mean the fourth, and perhaps the fifth and perhaps the sixth shot?
Mrs. HILL - Yes.

Mr. SPECTER - You thought that perhaps the second burst of shots you heard were being directed toward him by the Secret Service?

Mrs. HILL - I Just thought, "Oh, goodness, the Secret Service is shooting back."

Mr. SPECTER - What was your impression as to the source of the second group of shots which you have described as the fourth, perhaps the fifth, and perhaps the sixth shot?
Mrs. HILL - Well, nothing, except that I thought that they were fired by someone else.
Mr. SPECTER - And did you have any idea where they were coming from?
Mrs. HILL - No; as I said, I thought they were coming from the general direction of that knoll.
Mr. SPECTER - Well, did you think that the Secret Service was firing them from that knoll?
Mrs. HILL - I said I didn't know-I really don't.
Mr. SPECTER - You just had the general impression that shots were coming from the knoll?
Mrs. HILL - Yes.

Mr. SPECTER - And you had the general impression that the Secret Service was firing the second group of shots at the man who fired the first group of shots?
Mrs. HILL - That's right.

Mr. SPECTER - But you had no specific impression as to the source of those shots?
Mrs. HILL - No.

Jean Hill was looking at the limo when Greer shot Jfk. FRAME 310.

Look at the black guy on the grassy knoll. He's like: "I'm getting the **** out of here before someone blames me for this!"

Could be. The old man points, not at jfk but toward the front of the limo. He drops his arms...he just saw the driver shoot the President, and there was nothing he could do but know the truth.

 

[Rat in the Hat]

Could be. The old man points, not at jfk but toward the front of the limo. He drops his arms...he just saw the driver shoot the President, and there was nothing he could do but know the truth.

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Could be. Seigfried points, not at Roy but toward the back of the audience. He doesn't drop his arms...he just saw the tiger eat Roy, and there was nothing he could do but think about how he was going to salvage the act.

 

[LA RAM FAN]

still another fart from the agent troll above.

 

[LA RAM FAN]

I love how all of the videos you post clearly show the driver NOT shooting Kennedy.

thats the logic of predefan troll.he only sees what he wants to see in his debates on government corruption,so in his warped mind,seven hasnt shown it here.

 

[Rat in the Hat]

Still another vacuous post from the Gage Dupe above.

 

[LA RAM FAN]

Here's an email exchange between Tyler Newcomb and myself in regards to an audio interview of Jean Hill acquired by them around 1971. Tyler is working to get some of this vintage audio online. I will keep you abreast of Tyler's progress unless he starts posting himself. Below is an excerpt from Tyler's foreword in Murder from Within which was republished in 2011. Jean Hill confirms more directly in this interview that there was a shot in the front of Jfk's limo and that is just icing on top of icing at this point. HILL SAW GREER'S SHOT.

Dennis Roy: But you do remember at least one shot from the front of the car?
Jean Hill: Yes.

The exact quote on the tape was "Yes" when asked…"But you do remember at least one shot from the front of the car"

On Aug 4, 2013, at 1:17 PM, "." <.com> wrote:

Creepy for sure, including Roy! What about that transcript of Jean Hill? Even just some of it. Are these from your interviews? Are they accurate?

Zapruder Film Shows JFK's Driver Firing Fatal Head Shot (August 7, 2007)

1. Mary Moorman - school teacher standing next to Jean Hill. She said she saw Greer shooting back but thought he was shooting back at the assassin. SOURCE: Warren Commission and taped interview by Fred Newcomb.

2. Jean Hill - Jean Hill saw what happened too, but when she tried to bring up the subject of a gun being fired in the car, Senator Arlen Spector (a 33rd degree Mason) would change the subject or say "it's time for a cup of coffee

Murder from Within: Lyndon Johnson's Plot Against President Kennedy: Fred T. Newcomb: 9781463422424: Amazon.com: Books
During this time Dad (FRED NEWCOMB) and his two associates Gil Toff and Roy Dennis telephonically interviewed nearly 50 witnesses comprising 30 hours of tape. Many of these interviews became the basis for the book. One cannot listen to some of the Dallas Police officers interviewed (who smelled “gunpowder right there in the street” and heard shots “right next to me”) and not come away convinced there really was gunfire from within the motorcade. One cannot listen to 2 police officers stationed at Parkland Hospital who were standing next to the Limo and who each saw a bullet hole in the windshield and not become convinced of evidence tampering by the Secret Service.


Jean Hill saw Greer shoot Kennedy

She was just speculating that Greer was shooting back at whomever was shooting at the President. This was an easy way of saying it without exactly saying it. But in those moments she may have thought it because it would be shocking to see your President killed intentionally by the men who took an oath to protect him from assassination attempts. Mrs. Hill clearly turned to the left as the limo passed by in response to the shots and Greer suddenly braking during his second turn to execute the coup de grâce.

Testimony Of Mrs. Jean Lollis Hill

Mr. SPECTER - What occurred at the time of the fourth shot which you believe you heard?
Mrs. HILL - Well, at that time, of course, there was a pause and I took the other shots---about that time Mary grabbed me and was yelling and I had looked away from what was going on here and I thought, because I guess from the TV and movies, that it was Secret Service agents shooting back. To me, if somebody shoots at somebody they always shoot back and so I just thought that that's what it was and I thought, well, they are getting him and shooting back, you know; I didn't know.

Mr. SPECTER - Where was the President's car at the time you thought you heard the fourth shot?
Mrs. HILL - The motorcade came to almost a halt at the time the shots rang out, and I would say it was just approximately, if not---it couldn't have been in the same position, I'm sure it wasn't, but just a very, very short distance from where it had been. It was just almost stunned.
Mr. SPECTER - And how about the time of the fifth shot, where do you think the President's car was?
Mrs. HILL - That was during those shots, I think it wasn't any further than a few feet---further down.
Mr. SPECTER - Which shots, now---you mean the fourth, and perhaps the fifth and perhaps the sixth shot?
Mrs. HILL - Yes.

Mr. SPECTER - You thought that perhaps the second burst of shots you heard were being directed toward him by the Secret Service?

Mrs. HILL - I Just thought, "Oh, goodness, the Secret Service is shooting back."

Mr. SPECTER - What was your impression as to the source of the second group of shots which you have described as the fourth, perhaps the fifth, and perhaps the sixth shot?
Mrs. HILL - Well, nothing, except that I thought that they were fired by someone else.
Mr. SPECTER - And did you have any idea where they were coming from?
Mrs. HILL - No; as I said, I thought they were coming from the general direction of that knoll.
Mr. SPECTER - Well, did you think that the Secret Service was firing them from that knoll?
Mrs. HILL - I said I didn't know-I really don't.
Mr. SPECTER - You just had the general impression that shots were coming from the knoll?
Mrs. HILL - Yes.

Mr. SPECTER - And you had the general impression that the Secret Service was firing the second group of shots at the man who fired the first group of shots?
Mrs. HILL - That's right.

Mr. SPECTER - But you had no specific impression as to the source of those shots?
Mrs. HILL - No.

Jean Hill was looking at the limo when Greer shot Jfk. FRAME 310.

Look at the black guy on the grassy knoll. He's like: "I'm getting the **** out of here before someone blames me for this!"

as always,predfan kid can only troll and change the topic when cornered by facts.

 

[7forever]

Here's an email exchange between Tyler Newcomb and myself in regards to an audio interview of Jean Hill acquired by them around 1971. Tyler is working to get some of this vintage audio online. I will keep you abreast of Tyler's progress unless he starts posting himself. Below is an excerpt from Tyler's foreword in Murder from Within which was republished in 2011. Jean Hill confirms more directly in this interview that there was a shot in the front of Jfk's limo and that is just icing on top of icing at this point. HILL SAW GREER'S SHOT.

Dennis Roy: But you do remember at least one shot from the front of the car?
Jean Hill: Yes.

The exact quote on the tape was "Yes" when asked…"But you do remember at least one shot from the front of the car"

On Aug 4, 2013, at 1:17 PM, "." <.com> wrote:

Creepy for sure, including Roy! What about that transcript of Jean Hill? Even just some of it. Are these from your interviews? Are they accurate?

Zapruder Film Shows JFK's Driver Firing Fatal Head Shot (August 7, 2007)

1. Mary Moorman - school teacher standing next to Jean Hill. She said she saw Greer shooting back but thought he was shooting back at the assassin. SOURCE: Warren Commission and taped interview by Fred Newcomb.

2. Jean Hill - Jean Hill saw what happened too, but when she tried to bring up the subject of a gun being fired in the car, Senator Arlen Spector (a 33rd degree Mason) would change the subject or say "it's time for a cup of coffee

Murder from Within: Lyndon Johnson's Plot Against President Kennedy: Fred T. Newcomb: 9781463422424: Amazon.com: Books
During this time Dad (FRED NEWCOMB) and his two associates Gil Toff and Roy Dennis telephonically interviewed nearly 50 witnesses comprising 30 hours of tape. Many of these interviews became the basis for the book. One cannot listen to some of the Dallas Police officers interviewed (who smelled “gunpowder right there in the street” and heard shots “right next to me”) and not come away convinced there really was gunfire from within the motorcade. One cannot listen to 2 police officers stationed at Parkland Hospital who were standing next to the Limo and who each saw a bullet hole in the windshield and not become convinced of evidence tampering by the Secret Service.


Jean Hill saw Greer shoot Kennedy

She was just speculating that Greer was shooting back at whomever was shooting at the President. This was an easy way of saying it without exactly saying it. But in those moments she may have thought it because it would be shocking to see your President killed intentionally by the men who took an oath to protect him from assassination attempts. Mrs. Hill clearly turned to the left as the limo passed by in response to the shots and Greer suddenly braking during his second turn to execute the coup de grâce.

Testimony Of Mrs. Jean Lollis Hill

Mr. SPECTER - What occurred at the time of the fourth shot which you believe you heard?
Mrs. HILL - Well, at that time, of course, there was a pause and I took the other shots---about that time Mary grabbed me and was yelling and I had looked away from what was going on here and I thought, because I guess from the TV and movies, that it was Secret Service agents shooting back. To me, if somebody shoots at somebody they always shoot back and so I just thought that that's what it was and I thought, well, they are getting him and shooting back, you know; I didn't know.

Mr. SPECTER - Where was the President's car at the time you thought you heard the fourth shot?
Mrs. HILL - The motorcade came to almost a halt at the time the shots rang out, and I would say it was just approximately, if not---it couldn't have been in the same position, I'm sure it wasn't, but just a very, very short distance from where it had been. It was just almost stunned.
Mr. SPECTER - And how about the time of the fifth shot, where do you think the President's car was?
Mrs. HILL - That was during those shots, I think it wasn't any further than a few feet---further down.
Mr. SPECTER - Which shots, now---you mean the fourth, and perhaps the fifth and perhaps the sixth shot?
Mrs. HILL - Yes.

Mr. SPECTER - You thought that perhaps the second burst of shots you heard were being directed toward him by the Secret Service?

Mrs. HILL - I Just thought, "Oh, goodness, the Secret Service is shooting back."

Mr. SPECTER - What was your impression as to the source of the second group of shots which you have described as the fourth, perhaps the fifth, and perhaps the sixth shot?
Mrs. HILL - Well, nothing, except that I thought that they were fired by someone else.
Mr. SPECTER - And did you have any idea where they were coming from?
Mrs. HILL - No; as I said, I thought they were coming from the general direction of that knoll.
Mr. SPECTER - Well, did you think that the Secret Service was firing them from that knoll?
Mrs. HILL - I said I didn't know-I really don't.
Mr. SPECTER - You just had the general impression that shots were coming from the knoll?
Mrs. HILL - Yes.

Mr. SPECTER - And you had the general impression that the Secret Service was firing the second group of shots at the man who fired the first group of shots?
Mrs. HILL - That's right.

Mr. SPECTER - But you had no specific impression as to the source of those shots?
Mrs. HILL - No.

Jean Hill was looking at the limo when Greer shot Jfk. FRAME 310.

Look at the black guy on the grassy knoll. He's like: "I'm getting the **** out of here before someone blames me for this!"

as always,predfan kid can only troll and change the topic when cornered by facts.

Maybe a racist?

 

[Rat in the Hat]

Two farts in a row from the Gage Dupes above. Both unpaid by Pope Dickie the G.

 

[LA RAM FAN]

CLINT HILL'S THE AGENT WHO GOT JACKIE BACK IN THE LIMO. insidethearrb

Here is some collaborating information (on the SS Agent Greer being the source of the final headshot with his nickle plated revolver)

Douglas P. Horne, Chief Analyst for Military Records, Assassination Records Review Board (Pub 2010) details in volume five of this incredibly detailed and well-documented five volume set, how a "prominent researcher" that he knows who requested confidentiality on his identity, describes video taping an interview (shortly before the witness died) with an unnamed black steward on Air Force One, who related an incident on the Air Force One flight back to Washington after the assassination, during which Secret Service Agent Clint Hill "was changing his shirt (which was covered with the President's blood) and in a moment of complete honesty, while being assisted by the steward with his change of wardrobe, confided to the steward that when he jumped onto the back of the limousine, 'the driver had his gun out and it was pointed right at my face'."

Horne continues, "As the interview was related to me, Clint Hill was quite shaken by what he saw, for the implications were obvious. Hill's descriptions of the sound of the head shot(s), in both his written statement and in his Warren Commission testimony, were consistently that it resembled the sound a revolver makes when it is fired into a hard object."

Horne continues, "The discharging of a firearm inside the limousine could also explain why the triage nurse at Parkland hospital, Bertha Lozano, smelled 'smoke' (i.e. gunpowder) when Kennedy and Connelly were rushed past her on gurneys to the trauma stations for treatment." "The videotaped interview of the steward also provides independent corroboration for Hugh Betzner's account in his Sheriff's Department affidavit of November 22, 1963, that he saw a nickel (plated) revolver in someone’s hand inside the limousine during the assassination, and is consistent with Jean Hill's account in her affidavit of November 22, 1963 that some men in plain clothes were 'shooting back' (at the assassins)." "

One other Chrenshaw quote from High Treason 2 (page 114) is worth of mention here:
'The Secret Service men were there when we started to work on Mr. Kennedy (at Parkland Hospital). Clint Hill had a gun out and cocked and we were afraid he was going to shoot one of us. And Doris Nelson went around saying, 'he's okay, he's okay, he's okay,' and got him finally out of the room. It was sheer bedlam.

This makes sense to me only when I consider the revelation made by Clint Hill to the Air Force One steward. Consider his state of mind in Trauma Room One, given what Hill confided to the steward. He had just seen (and heard) the driver of the President's limousine plug the President, the man they were all sworn to protect, with a coup de grace shot to the head, and from that moment onward (until the end of his career when he was granted early retirement in 1975), his world was turned upside down. He was surrounded by known traitors: William Greer, Roy Kellerman, Floyd Boring, Emory Roberts -- and doubtless others, unknown to him. He didn't know whom to trust, and besides being infused with anger and overcome by sorrow, he might well even have been afraid for his own life, for having heard Greer fire his revolver, and seen it in his hand immediately after the head explosion, he was clearly, 'the man who knew too much'.

Hill had enough intestinal fortitude to tell Arlen Specter about Floyd Boring's security stripping role under oath, and enough common sense to suddenly forget Boring's name when he was required to prepare a written statement about the matter later for Secret Service Chief James J. Rowley. The poor man suffered from deep depression and alcoholism for years, and his agony was still apparent, and right on the surface, in 1975 when he was interviewed for the television news magazine 60 Minutes by Mike Wallace. (During that interview, I believe Hill was as upset by what he could not talk about, as he was by what he did talk about. The 'survivor's guilt' that he exhibited during the poignant interview may really have related more to his failure to blow the whistle on the 'dirty' Secret Service agents involved in the assassination, than to his failure to get to the limousine in time to protect the President."

Horne's five volumes, large format paperback set is incredibly inclusive and well documented and is available on both amazon.com and amazon.ca. I strongly recommend it.

Great find.

Notice how all the agent trolls here are getting so worried your getting this truthful information out that they are getting desperate trying to derail it with all these childish GIFS their handlers keep telling them to post?

I was about to post information on that as well since I also recently came acorss some of that ifnroamtuion on the net as well but I see you beat me to the point.

I remember reading about that in a jfk book as well sometime back.How one of the staff people at the hospital smelled gunsmoke in the limo and could tell it was from a gun going off.

these trolls like predfan LIE CZAR and rat in the ass and others of course will say the breeze from the air in dealy plaza brought the smell of gunpowder into the limo and thats why someone from the hospital smelled gunfire in the limo of course.you know they will.they should start a comedy club.

 

[Rat in the Hat]

Great find.

Notice how all the agent trolls here are getting so worried your getting this truthful information out that they are getting desperate trying to derail it with all these childish GIFS their handlers keep telling them to post?

I was about to post information on that as well since I also recently came acorss some of that ifnroamtuion on the net as well but I see you beat me to the point.

I remember reading about that in a jfk book as well sometime back.How one of the staff people at the hospital smelled gunsmoke in the limo and could tell it was from a gun going off.

these trolls like predfan LIE CZAR and rat in the ass and others of course will say the breeze from the air in dealy plaza brought the smell of gunpowder into the limo and thats why someone from the hospital smelled gunfire in the limo of course.you know they will.they should start a comedy club.

Two questions...


#1 - What the **** is "ifnroamtuion"?????

#2 - Exactly how could anyone smell "gunsmoke" in a convertible that has just finished speeding down an expressway to get JFK to Parkland Hospital with the top down??

Be specific.

 

[PredFan]

Great find.

Notice how all the agent trolls here are getting so worried your getting this truthful information out that they are getting desperate trying to derail it with all these childish GIFS their handlers keep telling them to post?

I was about to post information on that as well since I also recently came acorss some of that ifnroamtuion on the net as well but I see you beat me to the point.

I remember reading about that in a jfk book as well sometime back.How one of the staff people at the hospital smelled gunsmoke in the limo and could tell it was from a gun going off.

these trolls like predfan LIE CZAR and rat in the ass and others of course will say the breeze from the air in dealy plaza brought the smell of gunpowder into the limo and thats why someone from the hospital smelled gunfire in the limo of course.you know they will.they should start a comedy club.

Two questions...


#1 - What the **** is "ifnroamtuion"?????

#2 - Exactly how could anyone smell "gunsmoke" in a convertible that has just finished speeding down an expressway to get JFK to Parkland Hospital with the top down??

Be specific.

What I would ask, if I took any of these lunatics seriously, would be how anyone who wanted to kill Kennedy and pin it on Oswald would have THE DRIVER of an open convertable shoot him right in front of his wife, out in the open for everyone to see?

To even suggest something this assinine.....well......I can't even get my mind around such insanity.

 

[7forever]

Great find.

Notice how all the agent trolls here are getting so worried your getting this truthful information out that they are getting desperate trying to derail it with all these childish GIFS their handlers keep telling them to post?

I was about to post information on that as well since I also recently came acorss some of that ifnroamtuion on the net as well but I see you beat me to the point.

I remember reading about that in a jfk book as well sometime back.How one of the staff people at the hospital smelled gunsmoke in the limo and could tell it was from a gun going off.

these trolls like predfan LIE CZAR and rat in the ass and others of course will say the breeze from the air in dealy plaza brought the smell of gunpowder into the limo and thats why someone from the hospital smelled gunfire in the limo of course.you know they will.they should start a comedy club.

Two questions...


#1 - What the **** is "ifnroamtuion"?????

#2 - Exactly how could anyone smell "gunsmoke" in a convertible that has just finished speeding down an expressway to get JFK to Parkland Hospital with the top down??

Be specific.

What I would ask, if I took any of these lunatics seriously, would be how anyone who wanted to kill Kennedy and pin it on Oswald would have THE DRIVER of an open convertable shoot him right in front of his wife, out in the open for everyone to see?

To even suggest something this assinine.....well......I can't even get my mind around such insanity.

But that's how they did it. The absurdity of it doesn't change it unfortunately, for a minority of denialists. No doubt the average person will believe it because it's proven from numerous angles, including three videos. All kinds of ridiculous things happen every day, and none are false because of it. Greer shot jfk because a mountain of evidence supports it at the exclusion of all other theories, official or otherwise.

 

[Rat in the Hat]

Two questions...


#1 - What the **** is "ifnroamtuion"?????

#2 - Exactly how could anyone smell "gunsmoke" in a convertible that has just finished speeding down an expressway to get JFK to Parkland Hospital with the top down??

Be specific.

What I would ask, if I took any of these lunatics seriously, would be how anyone who wanted to kill Kennedy and pin it on Oswald would have THE DRIVER of an open convertable shoot him right in front of his wife, out in the open for everyone to see?

To even suggest something this assinine.....well......I can't even get my mind around such insanity.

But that's how they did it. The absurdity of it doesn't change it unfortunately, for a minority of denialists. No doubt the average person will believe it because it's proven from numerous angles, including three videos. All kinds of ridiculous things happen every day, and none are false because of it. Greer shot jfk because a mountain of evidence supports it at the exclusion of all other theories, official or otherwise.

What is ridiculous, and false, is that anyone would claim they can smell "gunsmoke" in an open air convertible that has just been driven at 60+ miles an hour.

 

[PredFan]

Two questions...


#1 - What the **** is "ifnroamtuion"?????

#2 - Exactly how could anyone smell "gunsmoke" in a convertible that has just finished speeding down an expressway to get JFK to Parkland Hospital with the top down??

Be specific.

What I would ask, if I took any of these lunatics seriously, would be how anyone who wanted to kill Kennedy and pin it on Oswald would have THE DRIVER of an open convertable shoot him right in front of his wife, out in the open for everyone to see?

To even suggest something this assinine.....well......I can't even get my mind around such insanity.

But that's how they did it. The absurdity of it doesn't change it unfortunately, for a minority of denialists. No doubt the average person will believe it because it's proven from numerous angles, including three videos. All kinds of ridiculous things happen every day, and none are false because of it. Greer shot jfk because a mountain of evidence supports it at the exclusion of all other theories, official or otherwise.

It is not proven from any angle, nor any video. So far not a single video you've posted shows the driver doing anything but driving. Not only is there not a mountain of evidence there isn't even a molecule of it.

It's one of the MOST absurd theories I've ever heard about the killing of Kennedy. You are not to be taken seriously, and this is the one and only time I will.

 

[PredFan]

What I would ask, if I took any of these lunatics seriously, would be how anyone who wanted to kill Kennedy and pin it on Oswald would have THE DRIVER of an open convertable shoot him right in front of his wife, out in the open for everyone to see?

To even suggest something this assinine.....well......I can't even get my mind around such insanity.

But that's how they did it. The absurdity of it doesn't change it unfortunately, for a minority of denialists. No doubt the average person will believe it because it's proven from numerous angles, including three videos. All kinds of ridiculous things happen every day, and none are false because of it. Greer shot jfk because a mountain of evidence supports it at the exclusion of all other theories, official or otherwise.

What is ridiculous, and false, is that anyone would claim they can smell "gunsmoke" in an open air convertible that has just been driven at 60+ miles an hour.

In order for this wack-a-doodle theory to happen:

1. The driver would have to find a handgun that shoots 30-06
2. Smuggle the gun into the car with him.
3. Turn around and shoot JFK, while JFK was able to see the gun.
4. Shoot the other guy.
5. Do so without Jackie Kennedy seeing it.
6. Do so without the Secret Service seeing it.
7. Do it in a convertable without anyone getting a picture of it.
8. Do it without anyone getting video of it.
9. Actually PLAN it to go this way.

It's too ******* stupid to contemplate.

 

[7forever]

What I would ask, if I took any of these lunatics seriously, would be how anyone who wanted to kill Kennedy and pin it on Oswald would have THE DRIVER of an open convertable shoot him right in front of his wife, out in the open for everyone to see?

To even suggest something this assinine.....well......I can't even get my mind around such insanity.

But that's how they did it. The absurdity of it doesn't change it unfortunately, for a minority of denialists. No doubt the average person will believe it because it's proven from numerous angles, including three videos. All kinds of ridiculous things happen every day, and none are false because of it. Greer shot jfk because a mountain of evidence supports it at the exclusion of all other theories, official or otherwise.

It is not proven from any angle, nor any video. So far not a single video you've posted shows the driver doing anything but driving. Not only is there not a mountain of evidence there isn't even a molecule of it.

It's one of the MOST absurd theories I've ever heard about the killing of Kennedy. You are not to be taken seriously, and this is the one and only time I will.

If it's not true then where were Greer's hands during frames 241-278? How could so many people have reported seeing, hearing or smelling a gunshot in the car if it's not true? How could Greer not have had a gun when Betzner saw a nickel revolver in the car?

How could the fake reflection be real when it clearly causes the headshot in Zapruder but wasn't captured in three other recordings where it had to be? It goes on and on and on. You are a delusional denialist with nothing but anger and frustration toward something that won't be challenged by those who wrote about this and made money. Nobody will challenge it because obviously it's true, when the other two films are included. Those films confirm the illusion in Zapruder was in fact reality.

 

[7forever]

But that's how they did it. The absurdity of it doesn't change it unfortunately, for a minority of denialists. No doubt the average person will believe it because it's proven from numerous angles, including three videos. All kinds of ridiculous things happen every day, and none are false because of it. Greer shot jfk because a mountain of evidence supports it at the exclusion of all other theories, official or otherwise.

What is ridiculous, and false, is that anyone would claim they can smell "gunsmoke" in an open air convertible that has just been driven at 60+ miles an hour.

In order for this wack-a-doodle theory to happen:

1. The driver would have to find a handgun that shoots 30-06
2. Smuggle the gun into the car with him.
3. Turn around and shoot JFK, while JFK was able to see the gun.
4. Shoot the other guy.
5. Do so without Jackie Kennedy seeing it.
6. Do so without the Secret Service seeing it.
7. Do it in a convertable without anyone getting a picture of it.
8. Do it without anyone getting video of it.
9. Actually PLAN it to go this way.

It's too ******* stupid to contemplate.

Greer shooting jfk is proven for one simple reason: His left arm extended over with headshot in both other films. That's a fact that you cannot refute. He did it because all three films prove that he very clearly shot jfk directly in the forehead.

 

[PredFan]

Can you imagine the planning stages of this?

"We have to kill the president."

"I know right, but how are we going to do it?"

"We'll get the driver to shoot him and we'll pin it on this commie ***** I know."

"The driver? Won't the president see him and duck?"

"No"

"Really? Won't Jackie see it and tell?"

"No."

"What about that other guy, the politician?"

"He'll shoot him too. That will help to make it look like the commie did it. Oh, and that reminds me. We need a pistol that shoots 30-06."

"There is no such pistol."

"Gun, pistol, whatever."

"Only rifles shoot 30-06, and he can't smuggle a rifle into the car."

"Just make it happen."

"The top of the convertable will be down, he'll get caught."

"No he won't."

"What about the people watching or taking pictures?"

"They won't be taking pictures or watching at the time he shoots him."

"How the hell can you know that??"

"I just do, don't worry about it."

"So let me get this straight, we are going to get the driver to smuggle a handgun capable of shooting a rifle shell past the secret service, and then he's going to shoot the president when Jackie, the cops, the secret service, and the person in the passenger's seat aren't looking, AND when no one is taking pictures or video, AND using gunpowder that emits no smoke. Then he's going to shoot the politician in the passenger seat, who despite the previous shots will still not be looking?"

"Yes."

"Sounds like a plan, lets do it."