The JFK Assassination

[RWS]

JFK Assassination (November 1963): Why did Jack Ruby kill Lee Harvey Oswald? - Quora

Shortly before the Dallas police tried to transfer Lee Harvey Oswald to the sheriff's jail in the police station basement, Jack Ruby was purchasing a money order at a Western Union office across the street from the police station in order to help one of the strippers at his nightclub with making her rent money. According to Western Union records, Ruby's receipt was time stamped at 11:17 AM. Ruby then walks across the street to the police station while the police are transferring Oswald. Impulsively, Ruby shoots Oswald at 11:21 AM, just four minutes after leaving the Western Union office. Coincidentally, Lee Harvey Oswald delayed his own transfer by insisting on changing into a black sweater before going into the basement. If Ruby had either finished his transaction at the Western Union office either a few minutes earlier or a few minutes later, Oswald and Ruby would never have crossed paths for the shooting to happen. Similarly, if Oswald hadn't decided to put on a black sweater and delay his own transfer, Oswald and Ruby wouldn't have crossed paths either. If there had been a conspiracy to kill Oswald, Oswald would have had to have been in on the conspiracy himself, because he was the one responsible for the delays in his transfer to the jail in the police station basement.

They didn't cross paths!!! Ruby waited for him as the police escorted him out of the station. He stalked him. He wasn't randomly there! He was up close and personal! And they even jammed for a bit before he shot him! Ruby played a mean guitar. Here's the pic. They may have allowed Ruby so close in order to kill him (or somebody who was there to do the job), but he didn't happen to randomly walk there after Western Union and say "Wow! There's LHO! Kill him!" Geez... I may agree with you LA RAM FAN, but I find it hard to believe he's paid (after all this time) and not misinformed...

 

[rightwinger]

Seriously folks…

If you think Oswald was a lone kook with no connections and was only desiring a place in history, can you comment on how he was able to defect from the US to Russia in 1959. Then, 2 years later, leave Russia for the United States—with his Russian bride and child (I think)?

Seems very odd that someone could do this between two embittered nations. According to Wikipedia; the US Department of State even gave him a loan when he came back

Nobody wants to comment?

Oswald was still a US Citizen. Not a popular one, but still a citizen

Oswald was an anarchist. He loved the attention it brought him even if it was negative attention. He thought he would be treated as a hero in the USSR. They treated him like the jerk he was. Documentation released after the USSR failed showed he was only tolerated and not trusted
So Oswald returned to the US where he expected a horde of press to meet him. They never showed
He remained an active communist and passed out literature on the street corner
He still did not receive the recognition he thought he deserved, so he bought a $12.95 used carbine through the mail and started having assassination fantasies
His first target was Gen Walker...he shot and missed
Then, one day, he read in the paper that the Kennedy motorcade would pass right by his window at work. So he brought his rifle to work, fired three shots and blew JFKs head off....then he ran away

 

[rightwinger]

JFK Assassination (November 1963): Why did Jack Ruby kill Lee Harvey Oswald? - Quora

Shortly before the Dallas police tried to transfer Lee Harvey Oswald to the sheriff's jail in the police station basement, Jack Ruby was purchasing a money order at a Western Union office across the street from the police station in order to help one of the strippers at his nightclub with making her rent money. According to Western Union records, Ruby's receipt was time stamped at 11:17 AM. Ruby then walks across the street to the police station while the police are transferring Oswald. Impulsively, Ruby shoots Oswald at 11:21 AM, just four minutes after leaving the Western Union office. Coincidentally, Lee Harvey Oswald delayed his own transfer by insisting on changing into a black sweater before going into the basement. If Ruby had either finished his transaction at the Western Union office either a few minutes earlier or a few minutes later, Oswald and Ruby would never have crossed paths for the shooting to happen. Similarly, if Oswald hadn't decided to put on a black sweater and delay his own transfer, Oswald and Ruby wouldn't have crossed paths either. If there had been a conspiracy to kill Oswald, Oswald would have had to have been in on the conspiracy himself, because he was the one responsible for the delays in his transfer to the jail in the police station basement.

They didn't cross paths!!! Ruby waited for him as the police escorted him out of the station. He stalked him. He wasn't randomly there! He was up close and personal! And they even jammed for a bit before he shot him! Ruby played a mean guitar. Here's the pic. They may have allowed Ruby so close in order to kill him (or somebody who was there to do the job), but he didn't happen to randomly walk there after Western Union and say "Wow! There's LHO! Kill him!" Geez... I may agree with you LA RAM FAN, but I find it hard to believe he's paid (after all this time) and not misinformed...

Ruby was at Western Union at 11:17
He shot Oswald at 11:21

Hardly the actions of a stalker waiting for his prey

 

[LA RAM FAN]

someone farted in here.

 

[LA RAM FAN]

JFK Assassination (November 1963): Why did Jack Ruby kill Lee Harvey Oswald? - Quora

Shortly before the Dallas police tried to transfer Lee Harvey Oswald to the sheriff's jail in the police station basement, Jack Ruby was purchasing a money order at a Western Union office across the street from the police station in order to help one of the strippers at his nightclub with making her rent money. According to Western Union records, Ruby's receipt was time stamped at 11:17 AM. Ruby then walks across the street to the police station while the police are transferring Oswald. Impulsively, Ruby shoots Oswald at 11:21 AM, just four minutes after leaving the Western Union office. Coincidentally, Lee Harvey Oswald delayed his own transfer by insisting on changing into a black sweater before going into the basement. If Ruby had either finished his transaction at the Western Union office either a few minutes earlier or a few minutes later, Oswald and Ruby would never have crossed paths for the shooting to happen. Similarly, if Oswald hadn't decided to put on a black sweater and delay his own transfer, Oswald and Ruby wouldn't have crossed paths either. If there had been a conspiracy to kill Oswald, Oswald would have had to have been in on the conspiracy himself, because he was the one responsible for the delays in his transfer to the jail in the police station basement.

They didn't cross paths!!! Ruby waited for him as the police escorted him out of the station. He stalked him. He wasn't randomly there! He was up close and personal! And they even jammed for a bit before he shot him! Ruby played a mean guitar. Here's the pic. They may have allowed Ruby so close in order to kill him (or somebody who was there to do the job), but he didn't happen to randomly walk there after Western Union and say "Wow! There's LHO! Kill him!" Geez... I may agree with you LA RAM FAN, but I find it hard to believe he's paid (after all this time) and not misinformed...

Naw he's a paid shill. Myself and many others have taken him to school and handed his ass to him on a platter too many times to remember over the years and he blantantly ignores facts. He would kill himself before he would ever admit he was wrong. Here is proof that he lies all the time even when he knows he is wrong.He said the past two years the Rams would not move back to LA in discussions i had with him when I brought the subject up that long ago,well guess what? he STILL goes around lying saying they are still playing in st louis.I am serious.Im not kidding.

 

[candycorn]

Seriously folks…

If you think Oswald was a lone kook with no connections and was only desiring a place in history, can you comment on how he was able to defect from the US to Russia in 1959. Then, 2 years later, leave Russia for the United States—with his Russian bride and child (I think)?

Seems very odd that someone could do this between two embittered nations. According to Wikipedia; the US Department of State even gave him a loan when he came back

Nobody wants to comment?

Oswald was still a US Citizen. Not a popular one, but still a citizen

Oswald was an anarchist. He loved the attention it brought him even if it was negative attention. He thought he would be treated as a hero in the USSR. They treated him like the jerk he was. Documentation released after the USSR failed showed he was only tolerated and not trusted
So Oswald returned to the US where he expected a horde of press to meet him. They never showed
He remained an active communist and passed out literature on the street corner
He still did not receive the recognition he thought he deserved, so he bought a $12.95 used carbine through the mail and started having assassination fantasies
His first target was Gen Walker...he shot and missed
Then, one day, he read in the paper that the Kennedy motorcade would pass right by his window at work. So he brought his rifle to work, fired three shots and blew JFKs head off....then he ran away

So your basically chalking up his being able to alternately reside between two superpowers to indifference on the part of the officials on both sides?

 

[candycorn]

I've no doubt LHO is guilty but I do think there is a connection between him and a government.

 

[rightwinger]

JFK Assassination (November 1963): Why did Jack Ruby kill Lee Harvey Oswald? - Quora

Shortly before the Dallas police tried to transfer Lee Harvey Oswald to the sheriff's jail in the police station basement, Jack Ruby was purchasing a money order at a Western Union office across the street from the police station in order to help one of the strippers at his nightclub with making her rent money. According to Western Union records, Ruby's receipt was time stamped at 11:17 AM. Ruby then walks across the street to the police station while the police are transferring Oswald. Impulsively, Ruby shoots Oswald at 11:21 AM, just four minutes after leaving the Western Union office. Coincidentally, Lee Harvey Oswald delayed his own transfer by insisting on changing into a black sweater before going into the basement. If Ruby had either finished his transaction at the Western Union office either a few minutes earlier or a few minutes later, Oswald and Ruby would never have crossed paths for the shooting to happen. Similarly, if Oswald hadn't decided to put on a black sweater and delay his own transfer, Oswald and Ruby wouldn't have crossed paths either. If there had been a conspiracy to kill Oswald, Oswald would have had to have been in on the conspiracy himself, because he was the one responsible for the delays in his transfer to the jail in the police station basement.

They didn't cross paths!!! Ruby waited for him as the police escorted him out of the station. He stalked him. He wasn't randomly there! He was up close and personal! And they even jammed for a bit before he shot him! Ruby played a mean guitar. Here's the pic. They may have allowed Ruby so close in order to kill him (or somebody who was there to do the job), but he didn't happen to randomly walk there after Western Union and say "Wow! There's LHO! Kill him!" Geez... I may agree with you LA RAM FAN, but I find it hard to believe he's paid (after all this time) and not misinformed...

Interesting picture....reminds me of the day Oswald was shot. I was watching on live TV with my parents

I was seven years old and I was more upset at seeing Oswald shot than Kennedy.
When JFK was shot, all you saw on TV was flag draped coffins. I don't think I saw the Zapgruder film until ten years later. It was deemed too upsetting

But with Oswald, it was the first time I had ever seen anyone really shot. I watched Westerns and Detective shows on TV and probably saw twenty people a week get killed. But this was the first time I ever saw anyone REALLY get killed....I knew there was a difference

 

[LA RAM FAN]

someone farted in here.^

 

[7forever]

 

[rightwinger]

Future Kennedy Killer




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[JimH52]

There are things that I don't believe about the government, but why should I believe that JFK was killed from the front, (or) by multiple shooters, let alone with different guns ?

First of all, JFK has wounds from only one caliber bullet of just a single type, suggesting it was from the same gun, also, JFK had a much smaller wound on the the rear, of his body and a larger wound in the front of his body which definitively says that he was in fact shot from the rear, because exit wounds are bigger than entrance wounds..
Moreover, JFK and his people were in the correct position to be affected by the bullet in the way described by the warren report, judging by original photographs.

Also what you can you, is you can do a little dice test... take two dice and roll them, pay attention to statistics, 7 has the most ways of being rolled compared to all other numbers and so therefore 7 will (most likely) come up the most.

Well you can apply that theory, to the most likely scenario as to who killed JFK and why JFK was killed.

There are more ways that Oswald was a Southern American white male racist in the 1960s, than there are that he was a foreign government agent, or a communist.

So its a lot more likely that Oswald killed JFK, because Oswald was from the South (Louisiana), JFK happened to be in Texas on the day he was killed, in 1963, Oswald was a racist, his side was losing in the courts, and the political party of JFK was a political nightmare for Oswald.
It is statistically much more likely that scenario was the reason, then calculate how (comparatively) unlikely it was that he was a foreign government agent.

Throw in the fact that his name is Lee Harvey Oswald, that is not a Latin name (Cuba) nor is it a Russian name, nor is it an east Asian name (Vietnam)
And he was born in Louisiana, and he was in the Marines.

So how much do these conspiracy theorists expect me to believe ?

Cruz's father was involved. That is what everyone is saying.

 

[rightwinger]

There are things that I don't believe about the government, but why should I believe that JFK was killed from the front, (or) by multiple shooters, let alone with different guns ?

First of all, JFK has wounds from only one caliber bullet of just a single type, suggesting it was from the same gun, also, JFK had a much smaller wound on the the rear, of his body and a larger wound in the front of his body which definitively says that he was in fact shot from the rear, because exit wounds are bigger than entrance wounds..
Moreover, JFK and his people were in the correct position to be affected by the bullet in the way described by the warren report, judging by original photographs.

Also what you can you, is you can do a little dice test... take two dice and roll them, pay attention to statistics, 7 has the most ways of being rolled compared to all other numbers and so therefore 7 will (most likely) come up the most.

Well you can apply that theory, to the most likely scenario as to who killed JFK and why JFK was killed.

There are more ways that Oswald was a Southern American white male racist in the 1960s, than there are that he was a foreign government agent, or a communist.

So its a lot more likely that Oswald killed JFK, because Oswald was from the South (Louisiana), JFK happened to be in Texas on the day he was killed, in 1963, Oswald was a racist, his side was losing in the courts, and the political party of JFK was a political nightmare for Oswald.
It is statistically much more likely that scenario was the reason, then calculate how (comparatively) unlikely it was that he was a foreign government agent.

Throw in the fact that his name is Lee Harvey Oswald, that is not a Latin name (Cuba) nor is it a Russian name, nor is it an east Asian name (Vietnam)
And he was born in Louisiana, and he was in the Marines.

So how much do these conspiracy theorists expect me to believe ?

Cruz's father was involved. That is what everyone is saying.

He can be seen mowing the grass on the Grassy Knoll

 

[JimH52]

There are things that I don't believe about the government, but why should I believe that JFK was killed from the front, (or) by multiple shooters, let alone with different guns ?

First of all, JFK has wounds from only one caliber bullet of just a single type, suggesting it was from the same gun, also, JFK had a much smaller wound on the the rear, of his body and a larger wound in the front of his body which definitively says that he was in fact shot from the rear, because exit wounds are bigger than entrance wounds..
Moreover, JFK and his people were in the correct position to be affected by the bullet in the way described by the warren report, judging by original photographs.

Also what you can you, is you can do a little dice test... take two dice and roll them, pay attention to statistics, 7 has the most ways of being rolled compared to all other numbers and so therefore 7 will (most likely) come up the most.

Well you can apply that theory, to the most likely scenario as to who killed JFK and why JFK was killed.

There are more ways that Oswald was a Southern American white male racist in the 1960s, than there are that he was a foreign government agent, or a communist.

So its a lot more likely that Oswald killed JFK, because Oswald was from the South (Louisiana), JFK happened to be in Texas on the day he was killed, in 1963, Oswald was a racist, his side was losing in the courts, and the political party of JFK was a political nightmare for Oswald.
It is statistically much more likely that scenario was the reason, then calculate how (comparatively) unlikely it was that he was a foreign government agent.

Throw in the fact that his name is Lee Harvey Oswald, that is not a Latin name (Cuba) nor is it a Russian name, nor is it an east Asian name (Vietnam)
And he was born in Louisiana, and he was in the Marines.

So how much do these conspiracy theorists expect me to believe ?

Cruz's father was involved. That is what everyone is saying.

He can be seen mowing the grass on the Grassy Knoll

Actually, that was his toupee....

 

[RWS]

JFK Assassination (November 1963): Why did Jack Ruby kill Lee Harvey Oswald? - Quora

Shortly before the Dallas police tried to transfer Lee Harvey Oswald to the sheriff's jail in the police station basement, Jack Ruby was purchasing a money order at a Western Union office across the street from the police station in order to help one of the strippers at his nightclub with making her rent money. According to Western Union records, Ruby's receipt was time stamped at 11:17 AM. Ruby then walks across the street to the police station while the police are transferring Oswald. Impulsively, Ruby shoots Oswald at 11:21 AM, just four minutes after leaving the Western Union office. Coincidentally, Lee Harvey Oswald delayed his own transfer by insisting on changing into a black sweater before going into the basement. If Ruby had either finished his transaction at the Western Union office either a few minutes earlier or a few minutes later, Oswald and Ruby would never have crossed paths for the shooting to happen. Similarly, if Oswald hadn't decided to put on a black sweater and delay his own transfer, Oswald and Ruby wouldn't have crossed paths either. If there had been a conspiracy to kill Oswald, Oswald would have had to have been in on the conspiracy himself, because he was the one responsible for the delays in his transfer to the jail in the police station basement.

They didn't cross paths!!! Ruby waited for him as the police escorted him out of the station. He stalked him. He wasn't randomly there! He was up close and personal! And they even jammed for a bit before he shot him! Ruby played a mean guitar. Here's the pic. They may have allowed Ruby so close in order to kill him (or somebody who was there to do the job), but he didn't happen to randomly walk there after Western Union and say "Wow! There's LHO! Kill him!" Geez... I may agree with you LA RAM FAN, but I find it hard to believe he's paid (after all this time) and not misinformed...

/

Ruby was at Western Union at 11:17
He shot Oswald at 11:21

Hardly the actions of a stalker waiting for his prey

Here's the question for you. Is there any evidence that it was actually Ruby at WU at 11:17, and not somebody pretending to be Ruby? And what was the transaction? And who was the transaction between?

Follow the money. Ruby killed LHO and was arrested at the scene. I don't think he expected to live. But he did. For several years. So why would someone make a transaction in his name at WU minutes before? And who was the money transferred to?

Remember, this part of it wasn't planned for long. Ruby was a last-minute thing, called to do a job on one day's notice. He knew he would die, so somebody cleaned out his accounts and moved them elsewhere. Where did that money go?

 

[rightwinger]

JFK Assassination (November 1963): Why did Jack Ruby kill Lee Harvey Oswald? - Quora

Shortly before the Dallas police tried to transfer Lee Harvey Oswald to the sheriff's jail in the police station basement, Jack Ruby was purchasing a money order at a Western Union office across the street from the police station in order to help one of the strippers at his nightclub with making her rent money. According to Western Union records, Ruby's receipt was time stamped at 11:17 AM. Ruby then walks across the street to the police station while the police are transferring Oswald. Impulsively, Ruby shoots Oswald at 11:21 AM, just four minutes after leaving the Western Union office. Coincidentally, Lee Harvey Oswald delayed his own transfer by insisting on changing into a black sweater before going into the basement. If Ruby had either finished his transaction at the Western Union office either a few minutes earlier or a few minutes later, Oswald and Ruby would never have crossed paths for the shooting to happen. Similarly, if Oswald hadn't decided to put on a black sweater and delay his own transfer, Oswald and Ruby wouldn't have crossed paths either. If there had been a conspiracy to kill Oswald, Oswald would have had to have been in on the conspiracy himself, because he was the one responsible for the delays in his transfer to the jail in the police station basement.

They didn't cross paths!!! Ruby waited for him as the police escorted him out of the station. He stalked him. He wasn't randomly there! He was up close and personal! And they even jammed for a bit before he shot him! Ruby played a mean guitar. Here's the pic. They may have allowed Ruby so close in order to kill him (or somebody who was there to do the job), but he didn't happen to randomly walk there after Western Union and say "Wow! There's LHO! Kill him!" Geez... I may agree with you LA RAM FAN, but I find it hard to believe he's paid (after all this time) and not misinformed...

/

Ruby was at Western Union at 11:17
He shot Oswald at 11:21

Hardly the actions of a stalker waiting for his prey

Here's the question for you. Is there any evidence that it was actually Ruby at WU at 11:17, and not somebody pretending to be Ruby? And what was the transaction? And who was the transaction between?

Follow the money. Ruby killed LHO and was arrested at the scene. I don't think he expected to live. But he did. For several years. So why would someone make a transaction in his name at WU minutes before? And who was the money transferred to?

Remember, this part of it wasn't planned for long. Ruby was a last-minute thing, called to do a job on one day's notice. He knew he would die, so somebody cleaned out his accounts and moved them elsewhere. Where did that money go?

Evidence? Like investigators going to Western Union with a picture of Ruby and the clerk saying..."Yes that is the guy". Like the Western Union receipt in Ruby's pocket four minutes later?

The money was sent to one of Ruby's strippers who needed to pay her rent. Why would that take precedence over killing Oswald?
If they had announced that Oswald would be transferred at 10 AM, why would Ruby be sending money at 11:17? If he had a job to do (kill Oswald) he would have waited around the station since 9:45

Why would Ruby take his favorite dog Sheba with him to the shooting? If I thought I was only going to the Western Union office, I would bring my dog. If I knew I was going to kill someone and definitely be killed or arrested, I would have made arrangements for someone to watch my dog.

 

[candycorn]

The whole Jack Ruby dimension basically proves the friends in high places argument is dumb.

Oswald may have had some friends in high places to move between nations like he did. Those same friends (if they wanted to clip him) would have had him commit suicide in private elsewhere.

 

[rightwinger]

Not according to polling of the people who were there

 

[7forever]

The government even admitted there were 4 shots.

 

[rightwinger]

The government even admitted there were 4 shots.

Nope