The Jews and the Native Americans

BRITISH Mandate Palestine included the administration of two territories, whose borders were defined from the outset of the Mandate. "The*British Mandate for Palestine, or simply the*Mandate for Palestine, was a*legal commission*for the administration of the territory that had formerly constituted the*OttomanSanjaks*of*Nablus,*Acre, the Southern portion of the*Beirut Vilayet, and the*Mutasarrifate of Jerusalem, prior to the*Armistice of Mudros. The draft of the Mandate was formally confirmed by the Council of the*League of Nations*on 24 July 1922, amended via the 16 September 1922Transjordan memorandum[1][2]*and which came into effect on 29 September 1923[1]*following the ratification of the*Treaty of Lausanne.[3][4]*The mandate ended at midnight on 14 May 1948.The document was based on the principles contained in Article 22 of the draft*Covenant of the League of Nations*and the*San Remo Resolution*of 25 April 1920 by the principal*Allied and associated powers*after the First World War.[1]*The mandate formalised*British*rule in the southern part of*Ottoman Syria*from 1923–1948.The formal objective of the League of Nations Mandate system was to administer parts of the defunct*Ottoman Empire, which had been in control of the Middle East since the 16th century, "until such time as they are able to stand alone."[5]*The mandate document formalised the division of the British protectorates -*Palestine, to include a*national home for the Jewish people, under direct British rule, and*Transjordan, an*Emirate*governed semi-autonomously from Britain under the rule of the*Hashemite*family.[1]" http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Mandate_for_Palestine_(legal_instrument)
 
Lets try to make it simple Sherri:

Do you believe that Transjordan was part of the original British Mandate, YES or NO?
 
toastman; et al,

Yes, some people are often confused.

I don't really understand the connection between permanent and international
(COMMENT)

All "permanent boundaries" are "international boundaries." But not all "international boundaries" are "permanent."

When the UN calls a a boundary "permanent," the issue is closed; with no further recognized disputes having standing.

A "permanent boundary" has a higher order of legitimacy. Any "international boundary" which is under dispute for cause, may change (not permanent).

Oddly enough, one side of a boundary may be permanent, while the other side may not. And that has an example with the boundary that is between Israel and Jordan holding the intervention of the West Bank. Once the Occupation ends, the boundary will not change for Jordan, but the other side will change hands; possibly becoming permanent.

Most Respectfully,
R

None of Palestine's borders are disputed by its neighbors.
 
P F Tinmore; et al,

Well, you got me there!

toastman; et al,

Yes, some people are often confused.

I don't really understand the connection between permanent and international
(COMMENT)

All "permanent boundaries" are "international boundaries." But not all "international boundaries" are "permanent."

When the UN calls a a boundary "permanent," the issue is closed; with no further recognized disputes having standing.

A "permanent boundary" has a higher order of legitimacy. Any "international boundary" which is under dispute for cause, may change (not permanent).

Oddly enough, one side of a boundary may be permanent, while the other side may not. And that has an example with the boundary that is between Israel and Jordan holding the intervention of the West Bank. Once the Occupation ends, the boundary will not change for Jordan, but the other side will change hands; possibly becoming permanent.

Most Respectfully,
R

None of Palestine's borders are disputed by its neighbors.
(COMMENT)

I would suppose that none of the Palestinian territories (Gaza Strip and the West Bank) have any borders to dispute. And the remainder of the borders are by other arrangements. They seem to be armistice lines and quarantine boundaries.

I have to admit, I don't yet understand the implications of the Palestinian Authority's new status (of December past). But I'm waiting to see what outcomes avail themselves.

Most Respectfully,
R
 
toastman; et al,

Yes, some people are often confused.

I don't really understand the connection between permanent and international
(COMMENT)

All "permanent boundaries" are "international boundaries." But not all "international boundaries" are "permanent."

When the UN calls a a boundary "permanent," the issue is closed; with no further recognized disputes having standing.

A "permanent boundary" has a higher order of legitimacy. Any "international boundary" which is under dispute for cause, may change (not permanent).

Oddly enough, one side of a boundary may be permanent, while the other side may not. And that has an example with the boundary that is between Israel and Jordan holding the intervention of the West Bank. Once the Occupation ends, the boundary will not change for Jordan, but the other side will change hands; possibly becoming permanent.

Most Respectfully,
R

None of Palestine's borders are disputed by its neighbors.

Technically, you cannot dispute something imaginary !
 
P F Tinmore; et al,

Well, you got me there!

toastman; et al,

Yes, some people are often confused.


(COMMENT)

All "permanent boundaries" are "international boundaries." But not all "international boundaries" are "permanent."

When the UN calls a a boundary "permanent," the issue is closed; with no further recognized disputes having standing.

A "permanent boundary" has a higher order of legitimacy. Any "international boundary" which is under dispute for cause, may change (not permanent).

Oddly enough, one side of a boundary may be permanent, while the other side may not. And that has an example with the boundary that is between Israel and Jordan holding the intervention of the West Bank. Once the Occupation ends, the boundary will not change for Jordan, but the other side will change hands; possibly becoming permanent.

Most Respectfully,
R

None of Palestine's borders are disputed by its neighbors.
(COMMENT)

I would suppose that none of the Palestinian territories (Gaza Strip and the West Bank) have any borders to dispute. And the remainder of the borders are by other arrangements. They seem to be armistice lines and quarantine boundaries.

I have to admit, I don't yet understand the implications of the Palestinian Authority's new status (of December past). But I'm waiting to see what outcomes avail themselves.

Most Respectfully,
R

Palestine has international borders with Lebanon, Syria, Jordan, and Egypt. I have seen no disputes with any of them.
 
P F Tinmore; et al,

Well, you got me there!

None of Palestine's borders are disputed by its neighbors.
(COMMENT)

I would suppose that none of the Palestinian territories (Gaza Strip and the West Bank) have any borders to dispute. And the remainder of the borders are by other arrangements. They seem to be armistice lines and quarantine boundaries.

I have to admit, I don't yet understand the implications of the Palestinian Authority's new status (of December past). But I'm waiting to see what outcomes avail themselves.

Most Respectfully,
R

Palestine has international borders with Lebanon, Syria, Jordan, and Egypt. I have seen no disputes with any of them.

No, they don't.
 
P F Tinmore; et al,

Well, you got me there!


(COMMENT)

I would suppose that none of the Palestinian territories (Gaza Strip and the West Bank) have any borders to dispute. And the remainder of the borders are by other arrangements. They seem to be armistice lines and quarantine boundaries.

I have to admit, I don't yet understand the implications of the Palestinian Authority's new status (of December past). But I'm waiting to see what outcomes avail themselves.

Most Respectfully,
R

Palestine has international borders with Lebanon, Syria, Jordan, and Egypt. I have seen no disputes with any of them.

No, they don't.

Indeed, there are no border disputes.

Well, Abbas wants a dispute. He is the one who wants to change borders around.
 
there's no borders for there to be a dispute over...
 
Borders are borders, weather you hate Israel or not, lol
 
Native, Jewish bond thicker than water | Columnists | Opinion | Toronto Sun

Here's another NA activist, expressing a different opinion on the topic.

"Justice for Palestinians is attempting to organize with the Council of Canadians a conference titled “Indigenous Perspectives on Water: Canada and Palestine.”

The objective is to conflate Palestinian and Native rights issues. Indeed, Justice for Palestinians is seeking a speaker from Idle No More, a Native rights movement in which I have been active. I take strong issue with Palestinians’ appropriation of the Native cause...."
 
there's no borders for there to be a dispute over...

make up your mind, one minute you say there are borders, the next minute you say there are none.

There are ISRAELI borders, not Palestinian borders. Maybe one day there will be , but not now.

Palestine has territory that is defined by international borders. Israel has never legally acquired any territory and consequently has no borders.
 
make up your mind, one minute you say there are borders, the next minute you say there are none.

There are ISRAELI borders, not Palestinian borders. Maybe one day there will be , but not now.

Palestine has territory that is defined by international borders. Israel has never legally acquired any territory and consequently has no borders.

Sure they do. I was there myself.

Oh, and remember the Seek Justice Pursue Peace thread where you claimed Israel has no Borders. Did you forget the spanking he gave you ??? Go bring up that thread to remind yourself of the idiotic comments that you keep making.
 
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There are ISRAELI borders, not Palestinian borders. Maybe one day there will be , but not now.

Palestine has territory that is defined by international borders. Israel has never legally acquired any territory and consequently has no borders.

Sure they do. I was there myself.

Oh, and remember the Seek Justice Pursue Peace thread where you claimed Israel has no Borders. Did you forget the spanking he gave you ??? Go bring up that thread to remind yourself of the idiotic comments that you keep making.

Show me a treaty where Israel acquired any territory.
 
They don't need a treaty for that.
I showed you treaties that gave them borders with Egypt and Jordan.
Show me treaties that gave 'Palestine' Borders
 
They don't need a treaty for that.
I showed you treaties that gave them borders with Egypt and Jordan.
Show me treaties that gave 'Palestine' Borders

They don't need a treaty for that.

All they have to do is park their fat ass on a piece of land with a gun and call it theirs.

(d) In the sector from a point on the Dead Sea (MR 1925-0958) to the southernmost tip of Palestine, the Armistice Demarcation Line shall be determined...

The Avalon Project : Jordanian-Israeli General Armistice Agreement, April 3, 1949

Israel calls that land Israel. When did that happen?
 
When they declared Independence in 1948 .
It's not their fault the Arabs rejected the partition plan.

So, about those treaties that gave 'Palestine' borders.......
 
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