The irony of the abortion issue.

[HeyNorm]

Not just children in Gaza. All children. They offer zero support for the babies they force to be born

How do we force the child to exit its mother?

 

[HeyNorm]

abortionists do not decide to kill any unborn human. It’s the potential birthmother‘s decision and what business is that of yours?

Because the unborn child is incredibly similar to a newborn, and under current legal standards, that alone would give it the same rights as the newborn

 

[Lesh]

How do we force the child to exit its mother?

If you prevent a woman who decides on an abortion from getting one… you are forcing her to give birth

Strangely the guy who was part of that equation is not forced to do that

 

[Mac-7]

Because it fits

Forced sterilization???

You raised the issue of women having children they cannot support

Sterilization as a condition for AFDC makes sense

 

[Lesh]

You raised the issue of women having children they cannot support

Sterilization as a condition for AFDC makes sense

Forced sterilization makes sense??

Maybe in Germany in the 30s… to Nazis

 

[Mac-7]

abortionists do not decide to kill any unborn human. It’s the potential birthmother‘s decision and what business is that of yours?

The mother does not have the moral right to ask an abortionist to kill their child, born or unborn

 

[whutTHEYsay]

How do we force the child to exit its mother?

Voting for white male Christian politicians in the deep red states who pass laws banning abortion which forces women to full-term gestation unless they can afford to travel to another state where freedom and liberty and reproductive rights exist for women.

Women are dying because of abortion bans.

 

[Lesh]

The mother does not have the moral right to ask an abortionist to kill their child, born or unborn

This very “moral” person just advocated forced sterilization

 

[whutTHEYsay]

The mother does not have the moral right to ask an abortionist to kill their child, born or unborn

Who in the hell says? Your morality does not apply to everybody in this country,

 

[Mac-7]

Who in the hell says? Your morality does not apply to everybody in this country,

The decision is not mine alone

As a voting member of society I have an equal right to you on abortion policy

 

[Mac-7]

This very “moral” person just advocated forced sterilization

Thats a lie

The single mother has a choice

 

[whutTHEYsay]

As a voting member of society I have an equal right to you on abortion policy

I have no policy on abortion because women who choose to abort do zero harm to society. I do not know why you think you have a right to petition the government to force full-term gestation on women who don’t want to do it. If you are a male, who do you think you are having the right to put the government in control of women’s bodies.

 

[Mac-7]

I have no policy on abortion because women who choose to abort do zero harm to society.

Thats your opinion

Mine is that we should protect innocent human life

 

[whutTHEYsay]

Mine is that we should protect innocent human life

Thats fine until until you push for government to coerce women not of your opinion to proctect the non person inside her body.as you are saying in your case the government has s right to violate a woman’s body based on an opinion of a minority of voters.

There is no violation of any individual person based on my opinion.

 

[whutTHEYsay]

Thats your opinion

But my opinion its based on this fact
which applies to human rights,

There should be no government ban on abortion because it is a fact that women who choose to abort do zero harm to society or any other individual person.

 

[HeyNorm]

I have no policy on abortion because women who choose to abort do zero harm to society. I do not know why you think you have a right to petition the government to force full-term gestation on women who don’t want to do it. If you are a male, who do you think you are having the right to put the government in control of women’s bodies.

A Doctor terminating a 8 month gestated Healthy fetus would have the same impact on society as if he terminated a couple hours old newborn.

Not sure how you come up with your conclusion.

 

[HeyNorm]

But my opinion its based on this fact
which applies to human rights,

There should be no government ban on abortion because it is a fact that women who choose to abort do zero harm to society or any other individual person.

Because the fetus is subhuman?

 

[gipper]

Is there anything easier humans can do to avoid an unwanted pregnancy? I don’t think so. Yet apparently, many aren’t capable of preventing it.

 

[whutTHEYsay]

Because the fetus is subhuman?

You are a liar. I regard the fetus to be as human as every human who has ever existed and will exist into the future.

 

[Frankenstein]

No they aren't but the treatment for an incomplete miscarriage is a D&C, which is the same surgery used to do a surgical abortion. Georgia banned D&C's except to save the life of the mother. My life wasn't in danger when I had the D&C's - but it would have been if I hadn't received treatment.

When I went to hospital bleeding and scared, they admitted me, and tried to save the pregnancy. They didn't send me home until my life was in danger. Women having miscarriages are being turned away from hospitals for fear that the hospital will be accused of giving abortions. They don't want you losing that baby on the premises.

In Georgia you have to be in imminent danger of dying, to get treatment. Doctors are waiting too long. A Texas woman was refused a court exception for her ectopic pregnancy (non-viable and will result in death if untreated), because the judge said she was in no danger of dying right that minute. When her tube bursts, she will have as little as 10 minutes to get surgery to stop the bleeding.

The CDC says that 80% of the women dying due to the complications of pregnancy, could be saved. The USA has the highest rate of maternal death, of any nation in the first world. It's over 30 deaths and going up every time a state bans abortion.

American men who are making these laws, should be executed for murdering women.

Change the language that exists based on Abortion. Those are not abortions. However Leftists will then call anything a miscarriage or cause miscarriages, and if you allow for rape and incest every abortion will be because of rape or incest