The irony of the abortion issue.

[Mac-7]

Most std's are solved by some simple antibiotics. And I don't "laugh it off", neither do I laugh off an unwanted pregnancy. Which is more to the point in this OP. But it's nice to see you double down on your strawman.

The simple fact of the matter is that I don't see how I can keep my daughter from having sex, unprotected or otherwise. The only thing I can do is make her aware of the potential risks, be it pregnancy or std's, and ask her to act sensibly. But if that occurs despite my best intentions, I'll be damned of I would force her to live with the consequences for the rest of her life if there's a solution. Be it antibiotics or abortion.

Again, what exactly in this line of thinking is objectionable to you? Or do you pretend that you have 100 percent control of the actions of your children?

I support antibiotics for STDs

Its sad when young women or men have to deal with AIDs or some new scourge we dont know about yet

But no one needs drugs if they act morally by not practicing sex outside of marriage

 

[forkup]

I support antibiotics for STDs

Its sad when young women or men have to deal with AIDs or some new scourge we dont know about yet

But no one needs drugs if they act morally by not practicing sex outside of marriage

So, it's the act of sex outside of marriage that's objectionable to you and you feel that because of that, you are in your right to condemn woman to carrying the fetus to term as some type of punishment? Since you support antibiotics for std's.

 

[Mac-7]

So, it's the act of sex outside of marriage that's objectionable to you and you feel that because of that you are in your right to condemn to carrying the fetus to term as some type of punishment? Since you support antibiotics for std's.

Objectionable?

Thats not the best word

Your attitude toward abortion is very selfish

Libs only care about themselves instead of the growing human being the woman is carrying

 

[Lesh]

“Easy” is putting the drunken 20-something party girls tactifully

The daughters disrespect themselves

You’re killin it skippy

Keep them Harris votes coming

Tell us more about women

 

[forkup]

Objectionable?

Thats not the best word

Your attitude toward abortion is very selfish

Libs only care about themselves instead of the growing human being the woman is carrying

No, libs care about the woman who is asked, (in your case forced) to carry the fetus to term, over the growing human. Since I'm not the one that's asked/forced, I fail to see how that makes me selfish. I'm perfectly happy to let the person involved decide what the proper action is. In my view, you wanting to force your sense of morality on other people is the selfish act.

So, I'll ask again. You view not allowing abortion as a form of punishment on woman for not refraining from sex outside marriage?

Please answer that question.

 

[Mac-7]

No, libs care about the woman who is asked, (in your case forced) to carry the fetus to term, over the growing human.

That is a consequence of having unprotected sex

The women did it to themselves

 

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That is a consequence of having unprotected sex

The women did it to themselves

So, why do you support antibiotics for std's, that's also a consequence of having unprotected sex? Since you insist that unprotected sex should have consequences why only the one (pregnancy)?

 

[Lesh]

That is a consequence of having unprotected sex

The women did it to themselves

Actually those “horny bros” did it to them if you want to be accurate

But you don’t, you want to blame women for having sex and you want them punished

 

[Mac-7]

So, why do you support antibiotics for std's, that's also a consequence of having unprotected sex?

The answer to that should be obvious

I dont hate people who fail to act responsibly

Which includes the unborn child that committed no sin

 

[Mac-7]

Actually those “horny bros” did it to them if you want to be accurate

But you don’t, you want to blame women for having sex and you want them punished

Women have the power to say “no”

 

[HeyNorm]

Nope. The draft is about the society saying that the individual has less rights than the society as a whole. Pro-life is about saying that one person (not that I accept this) has rights over another person.

The drafted soldier should be able to walk away from the front lines, with no harm. Right? It’s all about choice.

 

[Arlette]

Women trumpet their right to exercise control of their own bodies regarding reproduction. However, abortion is needed when a woman loses control of her reproductive cycle and gets pregnant unintentionally. A woman who is in control of her reproductive life knows when she is likely to get pregnant and has little need for abortion.

Shit happens, Woody. I bet a lot of shit has happened to you. You are bitter.

 

[otto105]

Accounts for about .02 percent of abortion

So, more than 10x the amount of voter fraud.

 

[otto105]

i wonder if that ever really happens, it certainly is not as well documented as little jummy's recess sex change.

Yeah, never happens in maga information world.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Okay keyboard commando.

It's allegory. I obviously intend no violence. As the context shows.

Remember, you're the one who wants your fetishes about women and their own bodies to be enforced at the end of a gun. That's violence.

 

[whutTHEYsay]

Which part of the US Constitution grants rights based on physical location?

Couchpotato cccxxx reply to 229 regarding a human fetus: When does it get it's individual rights? cchptt 241029 Stiotai00330

When the constitution recognizes personhood at birth.

A fetus is not recognized as a person while in the womb, however it’s life is protected as long as the mother wants it protected. In other words, the pregnant woman extends her right to life to her baby yet to be born.

Because I believe we are murdering a human being which is wrong regardless of the reason

Thats your religion or matter of conscience so don’t.

Because it’s killing another person. You don’t get to kill another human because their existence is inconvenient.

when the other person is inside your body, you can terminate it because it causes no harm to couch potatoes, or society in general.

There are options besides killing the baby. Adoption key among them.

but complications near the end of pregnancies kill women who would be forced by the government to do that. That’s why it has to be her own choice. Not yours..

Let’s start with just not killing inconvenient children. We can move on from there.

we are not killing children. Women are terminating a potential child inside her body.

Good thing you aren’t being hyperbolic. That said is how one gets pregnant a mystery for you? I’m sure Mommy or Daddy can explain it to you

None of your business unless unprotected sex by others who are uninvolved in your life harms you, You can’t tell me what harms you.

The draft.

Again. there is no comparable event in human life comparable to when a women is gestating a fetus.

So you’re a locational rights person as well. Interesting.

it’s about when sanctity of life occurs. Our Constitution recognized secular sanctity of life to persons who are born.

It doesnt. You dont get to kill a person just because their existence is inconvenient. Regardless of their location.

A woman is not killing a “person” if she does not regard it ss such.

When a woman regards her fetus to be a person then the fetus receives the same right to life as the mother. No one else needs to be involved in that decision, it is none of your business.

 

[Lesh]

Women have the power to say “no”

What about the men involved?

 

[task0778]

Pro-life is about saying that one person (not that I accept this) has rights over another person.

I think this is incorrect. I believe that pro-life is about saying that one person (mama) does not have the right to end the life of another person (unborn baby). In most cases, the mama made the decision to have unprotected sex, and as a result choosing to take the risk of an unwanted pregnancy. Life is kinda like that, and if you make a bad decision then you should have to deal with the consequences. It's not like there aren't contraceptives and morning after pills available, which I think oughta be free of charge.

Now, it could be that mama didn't make the decision; maybe she was overpowered or otherwise coerced/forced into having unprotected sex and it was not her decision. So, a case can be made that she is not responsible, BUT - neither is the unborn baby. Once conceived, he/she is a unique individual with a distinct DNA and a future that should not be abrogated by anyone else. To my mind, it is not a question of God or Religion but of the inalienable right to life, no matter what the circumstances are of conception.

But here's the deal: once mama births the baby, her life can continue. She can keep the baby or not, but either way she goes on with her life. But not so for the baby, if aborted that life has ended. IMHO, we should not be so cavalier with questions of life and death.

 

[TruthNotBS]

Keep in mind that these Evangelical holy-roller assholes are crying their crocodile tears for zygotes, embryos, and undeveloped fetuses in the wombs of strangers:

While going like this:

For actual, real babies in Gaza:

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I don't take their concern for zygotes, embryos, and fetuses seriously when they so flippantly dismiss the lives of actual children in Gaza.

 

[MarathonMike]

Women trumpet their right to exercise control of their own bodies regarding reproduction. However, abortion is needed when a woman loses control of her reproductive cycle and gets pregnant unintentionally. A woman who is in control of her reproductive life knows when she is likely to get pregnant and has little need for abortion.

Yes. That's a nice way of saying women who need abortions were stupidly having sex without birth control or protection. That's why "Reproductive Rights" is a disgusting, fake cover for fetal murder.