The irony of the abortion issue.

The "one" inside is a human being...
I agree, Yes. so what is your point?

it is an unborn human being, having a right to life on the authority of it’s potential birth mother.

Everyone else can mind their own damn business very easily. Most Americans do.
 
that makes no sense because I am arguing for the protection of rights of all persons meeting the live birth requirement for protection under the law under the constitution.

An unborn person does not meet that requirement at any stage of gestation.
So when does the being inside a woman get it's rights?
 
that makes no sense because I am arguing for the protection of rights of all persons meeting the live birth requirement for protection under the law under the constitution.

An unborn person does not meet that requirement at any stage of gestation.
And, blacks and same sex couples were considered subhumans at one time as well.

Just admit your bigotry already.
 
And, blacks and same sex couples were considered subhumans at one time as well.
And now the Republican Party still does. Accusing them of eating white peoples pets, etc. etc.. and living on an island of garbage in the Caribbean..
 
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So when does the being inside a woman get it's rights?
Depends what rights you're talking about.

The right to force health decisions from one individual over another is due never.

I'll put it this way. If you're kid needs a new kidney or die. And the mother is the only potential donor. Would you advocate strapping the mother down and force her to give up her kidney for her kid?

I'm guessing no. Yet here you are advocating giving a kid rights when not even born. Rights you wouldn't grant after it's born.
 
And now the Republican Party still does. Accusing them of eating white peoples pets, etc. etc.. and living on an island of garbage in the Caribbean..
Nice deflection. I’m embarrassed for you.
 
Nice deflection.
It’s truth. Sorry you can’t really deny it.. what the fuck was that at Madison Square Garden? Jesus Christ! Republicans cheering racism and misogyny and bigotry on. we have not seen this much fashion as I’m in America since the 1930s..


why weren’t you there?


Former President Donald Trump refused Tuesday to denounce a campaign event comedian's comment that Puerto Rico is a "floating island of garbage," according to a new report.
 
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Depends what rights you're talking about.

The right to force health decisions from one individual over another is due never.

I'll put it this way. If you're kid needs a new kidney or die. And the mother is the only potential donor. Would you advocate strapping the mother down and force her to give up her kidney for her kid?

I'm guessing no. Yet here you are advocating giving a kid rights when not even born. Rights you wouldn't grant after it's born.
when does it get the same rights you and I have? The right to not be killed.
 
when does it get the same rights you and I have? The right to not be killed.
Every fetus gets its rights through his mother during gestation as it is the mother‘s choice to grant rights.

Otherwise, it gets it’s rights at birth, or in other words upon separation from its birthmother and is capable of sustaining its own life primarily through its own heart, lungs and central nervous system.

This is not coming from me alone.

This is coming from Christianity not that long ago:

if you truly want an answer to your question that is based on truth See nfbw 241018 Vrftma01202. for more of the following:

viii. According to the Christian’s “Holy Bible,” and the unerring word of the Christian’s almighty god, there is no “living being” until it takes “the breath of life.” That concept is repeated throughout the Christian bible. And, prior to the Heritage Foundation’s embrace of the Vatican encyclical on regulating women, one of the “most famous Christian fundamentalists of the 20th Century” followed the immutable word of his biblical god on when life begins. It was never at the moment of conception. It was and still is after a fetus leaves the womb and breathes of its own accord.

ix. The Southern Baptist Convention’s president at the time of the Roe ruling, Dallas First Baptist Church preacher W. A. Criswell, celebrated the 1973 Roe v. Wade ruling by taking the time to write that he was pleased.

x. “I have always felt that it was only after a child was born and had a life separate from its mother that it became an individual person, and it has always, therefore, seemed to me that what is best for the mother and for the future should be allowed.” (author bold)

xi. That assessment informs that even evangelical leaders were still reading their “Holy Bible” and attempting to follow the teachings of their “unerring god” prior to becoming agents of the Catholic Church in America.
 
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Every fetus gets its rights through his mother during gestation as it is the mother‘s choice to grant rights.

Otherwise, it gets it’s rights at birth, or in other words upon separation from its birthmother and is capable of sustaining its own life primarily through its own heart, lungs and central nervous system.

This is not coming from me alone.

This is coming from Christianity not that long ago:

if you truly want an answer to your question that is based on truth See nfbw 241018 Vrftma01202. for more of the following:

viii. According to the Christian’s “Holy Bible,” and the unerring word of the Christian’s almighty god, there is no “living being” until it takes “the breath of life.” That concept is repeated throughout the Christian bible. And, prior to the Heritage Foundation’s embrace of the Vatican encyclical on regulating women, one of the “most famous Christian fundamentalists of the 20th Century” followed the immutable word of his biblical god on when life begins. It was never at the moment of conception. It was and still is after a fetus leaves the womb and breathes of its own accord.

ix. The Southern Baptist Convention’s president at the time of the Roe ruling, Dallas First Baptist Church preacher W. A. Criswell, celebrated the 1973 Roe v. Wade ruling by taking the time to write that he was pleased.

x. “I have always felt that it was only after a child was born and had a life separate from its mother that it became an individual person, and it has always, therefore, seemed to me that what is best for the mother and for the future should be allowed.” (author bold)






xi. That assessment informs that even evangelical leaders were still reading their “Holy Bible” and attempting to follow the teachings of their “unerring god” prior to becoming agents of the Catholic Church in America.
Just answer the question. When does it get it's individual rights? When does the magic happen?
 
when does it get the same rights you and I have? The right to not be killed.

Just answer the question. When does it get it's individual rights? When does the magic happen?


I did; Post 330 that you cited; #330

Every fetus gets its rights through his mother during gestation as it is the mother‘s choice to grant rights.

Otherwise, it gets it’s rights at birth, or in other words upon separation from its birthmother and is capable of sustaining its own life primarily through its own heart, lungs and central nervous system.
 
when does it get the same rights you and I have? The right to not be killed.
Why debate a bigot.

Change a few words and you get:

Blacks get the same rights when the slave owner allows them.

He’s a bigot and he knows it.
 
It’s truth. Sorry you can’t really deny it.. what the fuck was that at Madison Square Garden? Jesus Christ! Republicans cheering racism and misogyny and bigotry on. we have not seen this much fashion as I’m in America since the 1930s..


why weren’t you there?


Former President Donald Trump refused Tuesday to denounce a campaign event comedian's comment that Puerto Rico is a "floating island of garbage," according to a new report.
When beaten in a debate, don’t admit it, just deflect, right?
 
When beaten in a debate, don’t admit it, just deflect, right?
you have not engaged in a debate. You’re engaged in Republican propaganda.. it’s the end of the road for the saving baby fetus cult, and the billionaires who feed it to you.
 
if you want to force society to accept the fact that a fertilized human egg is a person with equal protection under the law for the pursuit of life and liberty and happiness, then you have to go all the way. An egg fertilized, resulting from an active rape, can be executed because of the circumstance by which he or she came into existence?

Your only solution is to abandon your oppressive religious style crusade to have the state government force full-term gestation on all women when they get pregnant without intent even though you know, it’s none of your fucking business if she does.
Religious style crusade for human responsibility? I am not for abortion due to rape, or incest, because the left would then find a way to make every abortion rape or incest rather than the 97% for convenience
 
I agree, Yes. so what is your point?

it is an unborn human being, having a right to life on the authority of it’s potential birth mother.

Everyone else can mind their own damn business very easily. Most Americans do.
Unless it's covid and Tampon Tim wants you to tell on your neightbor
 
Jim Crow your uncle?
I am a Democrat rational theist, which means nine out of ten black Americans, many of whom are Christians, vote with me for Democrats.

Your question is absurd.
 
I did; Post 330 that you cited; #330

Every fetus gets its rights through his mother during gestation as it is the mother‘s choice to grant rights.

Otherwise, it gets it’s rights at birth, or in other words upon separation from its birthmother and is capable of sustaining its own life primarily through its own heart, lungs and central nervous system.
So its rights are based on geography in your opinion. where the individual is physically located bestows their rights.
 
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