The irony of the abortion issue.

[whutTHEYsay]

Religious style crusade for human responsibility?

So its rights are based on geography in your opinion. where the individual is physically located bestows their rights.

No, Saint Couchpotato, the unborn human being has a right to life on every square inch of planet earth when the right to become born is granted by its potential birthmother.

It has nothing to do with geography as in “anywhere on planet earth when s woman finds out she is pregnant.

 

[initforme]

Voters in each state deciding is the most moral outcome that could possibly happen

 

[whutTHEYsay]

initforme

Voters in each state deciding is the most moral outcome that could possibly happen

Not for a dead woman and the family she leaves behind when an abortion ban
kills her.

 

[HeyNorm]

I am a Democrat rational theist, which means nine out of ten black Americans, many of whom are Christians, vote with me for Democrats.

Your question is absurd.

Nope, based on your thought process, anyone once judged to be subhuman, must always be judged subhuman. Do the black brothers you know understand you support Jim Crow?

 

[HeyNorm]

initforme

Not for a dead woman and the family she leaves behind when an abortion ban
kills her.

Women who choose to go forward with a dangerous childbirth and dies were killed by an abortion ban?

Do tell

 

[Couchpotato]

No, Saint Couchpotato, the unborn human being has a right to life on every square inch of planet earth when the right to become born is granted by its potential birthmother.

It has nothing to do with geography as in “anywhere on planet earth when s woman finds out she is pregnant.

Inside the womb, no rights. Outside the womb, (about 2.5 inches of geography) full individual rights. That's your stance.

 

[whutTHEYsay]

That's your stance.

That’s the US Constitution stance.

 

[Lesh]

I understand that abortion us a big issue for some married women too

But within that demographic conservative women tend to be more pro life

Its single women having unprotected sex that drives the pro abortion vote

Married women want those rights for their daughters

 

[Frankenstein]

initforme

Not for a dead woman and the family she leaves behind when an abortion ban
kills her.

So less than 1% of the time! You keep talking about rape, incest, and medical emergency, as if that is why most abortions happen, together it's about 3%. Have we known for Quite some time how pregnancy happens?

 

[task0778]

I am a Democrat rational theist, which means nine out of ten black Americans, many of whom are Christians, vote with me for Democrats.

Every fetus gets its rights through his mother during gestation as it is the mother‘s choice to grant rights.

Otherwise, it gets it’s rights at birth, or in other words upon separation from its birthmother and is capable of sustaining its own life primarily through its own heart, lungs and central nervous system.

I thought Christianity opposes abortion, no ifs, ands, or buts. I thought Christians believe the event of conception heralds a new human life that includes the right to life. I do not believe that Christians believe the mother has the right to end that life. You might vote for democrats for a number of other reasons, even though that political party supports abortion. But if you believe what you wrote above, then you are contradicting your faith.

 

[Frankenstein]

I thought Christianity opposes abortion, no ifs, ands, or buts. I thought Christians believe the event of conception heralds a new human life that includes the right to life. I do not believe that Christians believe the mother has the right to end that life. You might vote for democrats for a number of other reasons, even though that political party supports abortion. But if you believe what you wrote above, then you are contradicting your faith.

People who are for abortion have no faith! Well I mean they worship self

 

[Couchpotato]

That’s the US Constitution stance.

Which part of the US Constitution grants rights based on physical location?

 

[Dragonlady]

Women trumpet their right to exercise control of their own bodies regarding reproduction. However, abortion is needed when a woman loses control of her reproductive cycle and gets pregnant unintentionally. A woman who is in control of her reproductive life knows when she is likely to get pregnant and has little need for abortion.

I had two miscarriages, neither of which would have been treated properly in a 6 week abortion ban state. Because lawmakers banned miscarriage care, which is the same as an abortion.

1 million American women have miscarriages every single year. That's potentially 1 million women who need abortion care. There are another 200,000 pregnancies in the USA every year which end in stillbirth. And those women need abortion care as well.

How many women are you going to kill by denying the the care they need for the complications of pregnancy?????? The maternal death rate is up 92% in Texas. The rate of stillbirths is up 20%. And more than 25,000 women have been forced to bear their rapists' children. Girls in middle school are now going back to class as "mothers". And that's just ONE state.

You need to take a female biology course and get back to us when you have a clue, because right now, you're a complete idiot when it comes to female biology.

 

[Couchpotato]

Married women want those rights for their daughters

This is the problem. The 2 sides see abortion as 2 completely different issues. The Prolife side just sees it as killing a human being. The location of that human being is irrelevant.

 

[Couchpotato]

I had two miscarriages, neither of which would have been treated properly in a 6 week abortion ban state. Because lawmakers banned miscarriage care, which is the same as an abortion.

1 million American women have miscarriages every single year. That's potentially 1 million women who need abortion care. There are another 200,000 pregnancies in the USA every year which end in stillbirth. And those women need abortion care as well.

How many women are you going to kill by denying the the care they need for the complications of pregnancy?????? The maternal death rate is up 92% in Texas. The rate of stillbirths is up 20%. And more than 25,000 women have been forced to bear their rapists' children. Girls in middle school are now going back to class as "mothers". And that's just ONE state.

You need to take a female biology course and get back to us when you have a clue, because right now, you're a complete idiot when it comes to female biology.

We can legislate and tailor the law to account for these types of things without allowing the other 97% of abortions which are just convenience procedures.

 

[Frankenstein]

I had two miscarriages, neither of which would have been treated properly in a 6 week abortion ban state. Because lawmakers banned miscarriage care, which is the same as an abortion.

1 million American women have miscarriages every single year. That's potentially 1 million women who need abortion care. There are another 200,000 pregnancies in the USA every year which end in stillbirth. And those women need abortion care as well.

How many women are you going to kill by denying the the care they need for the complications of pregnancy?????? The maternal death rate is up 92% in Texas. The rate of stillbirths is up 20%. And more than 25,000 women have been forced to bear their rapists' children. Girls in middle school are now going back to class as "mothers".

You need to take a female biology course and get back to us when you have a clue, because right now, you're a complete idiot when it comes to female biology.

Miscarriages are not abortions
There is no state that has done this. There are D&Cs that are not pregnancy terminations (like for miscarriage management or postnatal hemorrhage) and all of the relevant laws are about pregnancy termination.

 

[Lesh]

We can legislate and tailor the law to account for these types of things without allowing the other 97% of abortions which are just convenience procedures.

You call them that. The women involved see it differently.

Have you ever been pregnant?

 

[Frankenstein]

You call them that. The women involved see it differently.

Have you ever been pregnant?

The point is these men and women were not being responsible, be responsible, control yourself

 

[forkup]

when does it get the same rights you and I have? The right to not be killed.

The right to not be killed isn't absolute.

I'm sure you don't believe it extends to me coming in your house without permission. Or for that matter to forcing medical decisions to protect the life of one person onto another person against their will.

The problem isn't that you want the same rights for a baby in the womb. You want to give them more rights then they would after they are born.

 

[Dragonlady]

Miscarriages are not abortions
There is no state that has done this. There are D&Cs that are not pregnancy terminations (like for miscarriage management or postnatal hemorrhage) and all of the relevant laws are about pregnancy termination.

No they aren't but the treatment for an incomplete miscarriage is a D&C, which is the same surgery used to do a surgical abortion. Georgia banned D&C's except to save the life of the mother. My life wasn't in danger when I had the D&C's - but it would have been if I hadn't received treatment.

When I went to hospital bleeding and scared, they admitted me, and tried to save the pregnancy. They didn't send me home until my life was in danger. Women having miscarriages are being turned away from hospitals for fear that the hospital will be accused of giving abortions. They don't want you losing that baby on the premises.

In Georgia you have to be in imminent danger of dying, to get treatment. Doctors are waiting too long. A Texas woman was refused a court exception for her ectopic pregnancy (non-viable and will result in death if untreated), because the judge said she was in no danger of dying right that minute. When her tube bursts, she will have as little as 10 minutes to get surgery to stop the bleeding.

The CDC says that 80% of the women dying due to the complications of pregnancy, could be saved. The USA has the highest rate of maternal death, of any nation in the first world. It's over 30 deaths and going up every time a state bans abortion.

American men who are making these laws, should be executed for murdering women.