The ideal American Political Party (Chuz Life's version)

[Edgetho]

Political Theorists have caused more death and destruction than all the wars in all the world in all of history. (We'll start with Marx... 100 Million Dead and counting)

Why are some people so interested in bullshit theory when we can't even prevent dimocrap scum from indoctrinating the mentally ill into murdering children? Oh yes, they did.

Get rid of the scummiest scumbag piece of shit political party in Human HISTORY and we can talk about what kind of Political Party will make your ***** purr

 

[Chuz Life]

Well, you are going to need more than a flag. You need to support the Article V movement and have your state representatives vote for it so we can amend the Constitution for things like Congressional term limits and a balanced federal budget.

Oh, I'm being realistic on this. I've been around long enough to live through several cycles of the grass roots efforts to start a 3rd party, like so many noted, it's usually driven by the frustration and anger about the levels of corruption and lack of accountability in the status quo.

My "Gadsen Party" idea is little more than a way to express all of those frustrations in a "what if" kind of way.

I don't know if you ever heard of the (now discontinued) website "U4Prez.com." That site was great for exploring ideas like this. I doubt there will ever be a site like that again.

 

[Billiejeens]

stop moving the goal post,,

if we had no parties then no party would be hating each other,,

seems you just hate it when people wont accept your POV

Why would they not hate each other still?

Proabortion politicians would embrace Pro-lifers?
Tax and spenders would embrace fiscal conservatives?
Neocons would embrace pacifists?

not having a letter by one's name doesn't change who one is.

 

[Edgetho]

stop moving the goal post,,

if we had no parties then no party would be hating each other,,

seems you just hate it when people wont accept your POV

The last time we had no partys, The Era of Good Feelings, one Andrew Jackson formed the most despicable, most disgusting, most corrupt political party in human history.

Never let your guard down when it comes to dimocrap scum. Never. If you get them (the party) on the ground, kick them in the head. And keep kicking. If they stop moving, kick them some more. When you think the party can't ever rise again, kick it in the balls. Then set it on fire. And bury the ashes. And Salt The Earth over the spot so nothing can grow.

 

[progressive hunter]

The last time we had no partys, The Era of Good Feelings, one Andrew Jackson formed the most despicable, most disgusting, most corrupt political party in human history.

Never let your guard down when it comes to dimocrap scum. Never. If get them (the party) on the ground, kick them in the head. And keep kicking. If they stop moving, kick them some more. When you think the party can't ever rise again, kick it in the balls. Then set it on fire. And bury the ashes. And Salt The Earth over the spot so nothing can grow.

we had partys at that time and as you say he started a new one,,

 

[progressive hunter]

Why would they not hate each other still?

Proabortion politicians would embrace Pro-lifers?
Tax and spenders would embrace fiscal conservatives?
Neocons would embrace pacifists?

not having a letter by one's name doesn't change who one is.

people will always hate each other,,

the party system just gives them a target

we elect people to go to washington to represent the people of the state not a political party,,

 

[task0778]

The ideal American political party would prioritize our wellbeing over their own. Sadly, that is not the case and probably never will be.

 

[Chuz Life]

The last time we had no partys, The Era of Good Feelings, one Andrew Jackson formed the most despicable, most disgusting, most corrupt political party in human history.

Never let your guard down when it comes to dimocrap scum. Never. If you get them (the party) on the ground, kick them in the head. And keep kicking. If they stop moving, kick them some more. When you think the party can't ever rise again, kick it in the balls. Then set it on fire. And bury the ashes. And Salt The Earth over the spot so nothing can grow.

No Quarter!

 

[Chuz Life]

Still not there, but I am getting closer.

 

[sparky]

• 
  

• The Government is not the source of my basic human rights​

  Votes: 7,,,,,,,63.6%

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• I agree that the Constitution is (and should be) the Supreme Law of the U.S.
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  Votes: 9,,,,,,81.8%

So Chuz, according to poll activity so far , it would appear we agree our constitution seems more important than those we elect to interpret / enforce it

the age old 'are we a nation of laws, or men' rears it's ugly head yet again....~S~

 

[Chuz Life]

• 
  

• The Government is not the source of my basic human rights​

  Votes: 7,,,,,,,63.6%

• ​

• I agree that the Constitution is (and should be) the Supreme Law of the U.S.​

  Votes: 9,,,,,,81.8%

So Chuz, according to poll activity so far , it would appear we agree our constitution seems more important than those we elect to interpret / enforce it

the age old 'are we a nation of laws, or men' rears it's ugly head yet again....~S~

I see that. I wish I hadn't fat fingered my keyboard while typing the Poll questions. There were several others I would like to have added to maybe give a better glimpse into the meaning of it all.

 

[sparky]

You're allowed to haver fat fingers in your own thread Chuz.... ~S~

 

[Missourian]

The two party system has served the nation very well for a very long time.

If you have 3, 4, or 5 parties and if they are viable, you'll have essentially a coalition government. As this is the norm (or at least prevalent) in other democracies, one would have to wonder why you'd want to trade what has worked for so well and so long for those system that seem to have not worked as well.

You were doing so well...

What has happened lately is that the right wing has become sorely misguided (putting it mildly) in what made us the greatest civilization. Did it work perfectly in the past? Never. But like the unfinished pyramid on the back of the $1 bill, the nation is unfinished and mistakes will be made, shortcomings will be exposed, and yes...bad actors will corrupt the system. Eventually, the ship will either right itself or we will perish as a nation. I tend to think the crazy uncles on the right will realize they are far out of the depth at some point and sanity will take over from those who do laughable things like signing treaties with the Taliban and encouraging insurrections. Maybe not. But it will not happen overnight and bitter lessons will be learned. Hopefully what is left of the sane folks on the right will recapture their ideology.

...and then you stepped on your crank.

 

[candycorn]

stop moving the goal post,,

I’ve done no such thing.

if we had no parties then no party would be hating each other,,

Thats an interesting view. Parties are not people...a “party” can’t hate anyone or anything. You may as well say that your dining room chair hates your dining room table.

seems you just hate it when people wont accept your POV

Don’t be silly.

I present my POV and if you don’t like it...no skin off my nose.

 

[candycorn]

You were doing so well...

...and then you stepped on your crank.

I forgot whether it was you or Misery Mike who said he wanted to shoot me. So many nutjobs, so little time.

 

[progressive hunter]

I present my POV and if you don’t like it...no skin off my nose.

you just have a low standard for the country,,

I expect a higher standard,,

 

[candycorn]

you just have a low standard for the country,,

I expect a higher standard,,

Again, the only nation who has footprints on the moon. Highest number of nobel prize winners, we're not too bad at the quadrennial Olympics either, strongest military, a massive record of benevolence (before Trump got in anyway) that was second to none, curing disease, etc...

I don't know what you mean by a "higher standard"--neither do you since you can't name a nation that has done more. I'll leave out that we're still, historically speaking, a young nation.

 

[progressive hunter]

Again, the only nation who has footprints on the moon. Highest number of nobel prize winners, we're not too bad at the quadrennial Olympics either, strongest military, a massive record of benevolence (before Trump got in anyway) that was second to none, curing disease, etc...

I don't know what you mean by a "higher standard"--neither do you since you can't name a nation that has done more. I'll leave out that we're still, historically speaking, a young nation.

still moving that goal post,,

can I assume youre OK with high debt and a divided country centered around the two current partys causing it??

 

[candycorn]

still moving that goal post,,

The goalposts have always been right where they were at the beginning.

can I assume youre OK with high debt and a divided country centered around the two current partys causing it??

Again, we the only nation who has footprints on the moon. Highest number of nobel prize winners, we're not too bad at the quadrennial Olympics either, strongest military, a massive record of benevolence (before Trump got in anyway) that was second to none, curing disease, etc...


I'd rather not have the deficit and the politics of Reagan and Tip O'neil. But currently we have one party that is pretty much center left and one party that is so far right that reality is based on "alternative facts"...so it seems more strained than it would be otherwise. Eventually the right wing will return to some semblance of sanity. It likely won't be during this administration--the one you support-- however.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

A third party would just devolve into what the current two have

What's needed is term limits where politicians are not entrenched and abusing the office

We have them. They are called elections. The fact we choose not to use them is our fault as well.